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Freeper Question About Party Nominees
self | 2/4/08 | LS

Posted on 02/04/2008 4:25:14 PM PST by LS

Since Freepers know the answers to just about everything:

What happens in modern times (as I know what used to happen, pre-Civil War) if a party's clear nominee---after the convention---has to drop out due to health, whatever?

New primaries are not possible: do the party leaders pick someone new, or does the veep candidate automatically ascend to the top spot?


TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: elections; morevanities; nominations; primaries
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1 posted on 02/04/2008 4:25:15 PM PST by LS
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To: LS

If Obama wins on Tuesday, that’ll be a great question for Democrats.


2 posted on 02/04/2008 4:26:48 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: LS

You’re not really voting for a candidate in a Primary, you’re voting for party delegates who pledge to vote for your candidate.

If the candidate withdraws from the race prior to the convention, his/her delegates are released to vote as they please.


3 posted on 02/04/2008 4:27:02 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: LS

So basically you’re asking what happens if our nominee loses his mind and goes postal on the campaign trail?


4 posted on 02/04/2008 4:27:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: LS
Oops, sorry. I see that your question was after the convention. My bad.
5 posted on 02/04/2008 4:28:01 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: LS

Good question. I’d assume the VP if it’s an R. I’d assume a horde of lawyers if it’s a D. They could hold another nomination process but that would leave future potential appeals with a precedent.


6 posted on 02/04/2008 4:28:11 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: LS

My understanding is that the party’s central committee would meet to choose a replacement. This is similar to what occurs in some states after a House member dies and there is no special primary election, only a special general election.

The bigger issue would be ballot access deadlines, and whether they would be changed. Even if the ballot were not changed, the electoral college could still vote for the designated replacement.


7 posted on 02/04/2008 4:31:09 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: LS

You will be the first person the Secret Service will question...


8 posted on 02/04/2008 4:32:07 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Southack
If Obama wins on Tuesday, that’ll be a great question for Democrats.

Hilarious! There is no way he has enough people watching his back to protect him from the Clintons.

9 posted on 02/04/2008 4:33:48 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve asked this before too. That or then Dems drag up something really bad. Can the party replace the nominee?


10 posted on 02/04/2008 4:36:32 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Southack
No doubt about it.
11 posted on 02/04/2008 4:36:42 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: LS

Who’s sick now?


12 posted on 02/04/2008 4:37:09 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: cripplecreek

If McCain is the Republican nominee, I’m afraid we’ll find out.


13 posted on 02/04/2008 4:39:20 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: CindyDawg

I still wish we had some debates involving the candidates from both sides prior to getting stuck with a nominee. With all the emphasis on “electability” it really sucks to get stuck with someone who isn’t.


14 posted on 02/04/2008 4:40:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Southack; LS

That’s a very clever (stealthy) answer to LS’s question.
“My my what a long nose you have. The more to eat you my dear.” The road to grandma’s house is getting dangerous.

I do not recall any previous situation as such. Any alteration to the platform/candidates after (or before either) the convention is not a constitutional matter (no provisions for partys) and almost no legal matter unless the process is viewed under contract law (consider how “unlegal” the selection process is and therein lies the rub) and that would put the matter into Major Grey zone.

In the past (prior to ~1825) the candidates were chosen by internal secret process (albeit with some public dogNpony show) so that is no guideline. In any case, it would be a very extreme cockup.


15 posted on 02/04/2008 4:42:46 PM PST by buffaloKiller ("No liberal is my brother, under the skin they are Orcs. Serving and doing evil endlessly.")
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To: cripplecreek

That would be a good idea. I was jusr reading the “you are whining, no you are whining” thread. They are playing T Ball. The Dems are major league.... I would like to see how they handle them.


16 posted on 02/04/2008 4:44:57 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

You remember that Duncan Hunter sent an invite to Hillary to send more sneak attackers.


17 posted on 02/04/2008 4:54:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Yo-Yo

No, I understand that. What if AFTER the convention, something happens to the candidate?


18 posted on 02/04/2008 4:58:12 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: tubebender

LOL.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 4:58:46 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS; Salena Zito

Good question. When Tom Eagleton dropped out as McGovern’s VP, the choice of Sargent Shriver was approved by the DNC.

I have looked in vain for standing rules of the Democrat or Republican party and have not found any.

(I wondered about it when someone suggested that the 2004 Democrat convention adjourn without nominating anyone — I forget why — maybe it was so that spending limits for John Kerry wouldn’t kick in until a certain date...anyway, I thought that a delegate could raise an objection to adjournment, saying that the convention hadn’t finished its business.)

In the election of 1872, Presidential candidate Horace Greeley died Nov 29, 1872.

Thomas Hendricks received 42 of his electoral votes,
VP Candidate Benjamin Gratz Brown received 18,
Greeley received 3 votes not counted, and
3 votes were scattered.

In the VP count,
Brown received 47 votes, and the remaining 19 votes were scattered.

I’m not quite sure how Hendricks got to be the unofficial Democratic nominee.


20 posted on 02/04/2008 5:20:37 PM PST by scrabblehack
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