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McCain Appeal - A far superior choice to the Democratic alternatives.
National Review Online ^ | February 04, 2008 | Mackubin Thomas Owens

Posted on 02/04/2008 5:07:07 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

i’m not convinced. mccain will have to make his case.

about the only thing that might convince me at this point would be if mccain picks romney for vp.


41 posted on 02/04/2008 5:35:41 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: neverdem

“John McCain, the Anti-Clinton.” To be Anti-Clinton, McCain would have to be a seemingly supernatural good conservative. I just don’t see McCain that way and will not vote for him.


42 posted on 02/04/2008 5:36:08 PM PST by TBall
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To: kc8ukw

If you think McCain is so great, then vote for him. If you see Hell freezing over, you’ll know I did the same.


43 posted on 02/04/2008 5:36:52 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: MNJohnnie
How much did the Democrats accomplish between 1992 and 1994 when the controlled the WH-the Senate and the House?

Off the top of my head, at least the Brady Bill and the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban." We're still stuck with the former. I wouldn't discount the value of more Ruth Bader Ginsburg clones on the Supreme Court and the rest of the judiciary. That's where the left has succeeded with some of the most damaging decisions.

Go read McCain-Leiberman. A Republican President purposing a $.50 a gallon Fed Gas tax hike?

If that was an excise tax on foreign fuel, I have no problem. I want energy independence.

44 posted on 02/04/2008 5:39:59 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: neverdem; MNJohnnie
Go read McCain-Leiberman. A Republican President purposing a $.50 a gallon Fed Gas tax hike?

If that was an excise tax on foreign fuel, I have no problem. I want energy independence.

A $.50 hike in gas tax?

Foreign or domestic, what good is energy independence without financial independence?

45 posted on 02/04/2008 5:44:48 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: All
This is Johnny McCains swan song.

(Pissing on the GOP, and ushering in the third term of Bill Clinton.)

Thanks Johnny McCain. You can make the reservations for the nursing home in January. Hillary appreciates your efforts, but shes laughing at you.

46 posted on 02/04/2008 5:45:07 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: neverdem
You honestly think John “Gang of 14” McCain who organized a surrender to the Democrats on Judges once is going to fight his good buddies Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Russ Feingold to get you a Conservative SC Justice?
47 posted on 02/04/2008 5:48:12 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Senator McCain, a 10% Conservative, is our enemy no matter what party label he wears)
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To: neverdem

“I wouldn’t discount the value of more Ruth Bader Ginsburg clones on the Supreme Court and the rest of the judiciary”

The judiciary argument is a red herring. McCain has Warren Rudman (David Souter’s chief advocate) as his judiciary adviser.


48 posted on 02/04/2008 5:48:20 PM PST by Toaster tank
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To: rbmillerjr

Party’s are not indestructible. Since the two party’s seem bent on fusion, there is coming a time when a new political party will rise.

Hegel Dialectic in action. 1st you have a thesis, in reaction to which forms an antithesis which over time combines to become the synthesis which then becomes the thesis developing a new antithesis.

In these terms the thesis was the Democrat party, which developed over time the anti thesis Republican party. With McCain we seen the Republican Establishment accelerating it fusion with the Democrat Party leadership. They are being a synthesis.

SO it appears the Republican-Democrats will form a globalist, interventionist European Socialist style party. That will be the new thesis.

In reaction to that something new will arise. An new Anti-thesis. It may be that Ron Paul is an out rider of that new trend. An Isolationist, limited Govt Nationalist party of Libertarian-Conservatives.

A lot rides on this election for setting the course of politics for the coming generation. If it ends up being Hillary-vrs McCain it will be a matter of the party’s differing on the speed to which the US should develop a European style authoritarian bureaucratic socialist style Govt.


49 posted on 02/04/2008 5:49:27 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Senator McCain, a 10% Conservative, is our enemy no matter what party label he wears)
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To: Always Right

I will do what I can to stop the Democrats from getting full control of the government.
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Voting for McKerry is giving full control of the government to the Democrats. No sarcasm intended. Other than the WOT, he is in agreement with both Klinton, and Obama.


50 posted on 02/04/2008 5:54:23 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: NavVet

I don’t think McCain is so great, and I didn’t vote for him. But the nice thing about the Republican field is that every candidate has a least a few things he does well.


51 posted on 02/04/2008 5:54:39 PM PST by kc8ukw (Sign the ALLOW incandescent bulbs petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/incand/)
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To: JohnD9207

Other than the WOT, he is in agreement with both Klinton, and Obama. Yeah, I’m really trusting this Reagan foot solider on the WOT.


52 posted on 02/04/2008 6:02:29 PM PST by TBall
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To: DoughtyOne

Rome is burning.


53 posted on 02/04/2008 6:03:23 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: kc8ukw
Cheer up. 2012 we have another shot.

McNasty should be a “has been” Viagra salesman by then.

Hillary care should be in full swing with mandatory annual rectal exams on the menu.

54 posted on 02/04/2008 6:05:32 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: JohnD9207

Maybe instead of blaming McCain, we should all take a good look in the mirror.

Conservatives (of which I am one) had their chance to support two of their own in Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter. Ron Friggin’ Paul got more financial support than those two did. Who’s fault is that? Where were the conservatives in South Carolina, a state that Thompson was counting on to create momentum?

I couldn’t tell you why folks on the Right are turning out for McCain. But if he’s the nominee, I’m voting for him. You guys may be right when you say McCain is a liberal on most issues. But not on the two I care most about - abortion and Iraq.


55 posted on 02/04/2008 6:08:02 PM PST by Jaguarmike
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To: neverdem
Have you been wondering where McCain and Huckabee have been getting their money?

It's interesting that a man who has close ties to John McCain is funding a PAC, called, Trust Huckabee, which ran the push polls for Huckabee in Florida and Michigan.

In case you don't know who Charles Lindner is, maybe this will remind you (I hear that he is also heavily involved in the carbon credit scheme and stands to benefit greatly from the McCain Lieberman legislation):

The Keating One,' and Carl Lindner From 1981—the year before John McCain ran for U.S. Congress—until the early 1990s, the former Navy pilot was totally beholden to junk bond swindler Charles Keating for his political fortunes. When the S&L scandal exploded and Federal prosecutors were breathing down Keating's neck, it was McCain who tried to bully Federal regulators into backing off. While the affair became known as the "Keating Five" scandal, none of the other members of the Senate and House implicated in the ethics violations, were as closely tied to Keating as John McCain.

And Charles Keating was no "loan assassin." He was but one player in a larger organized crime apparatus that ran the $200 billion-plus rip-off, in what may have been the biggest actual RICO (racketeering) scheme ever.

Between 1959 and the late 1980s, Charles Keating was the business partner of Carl Lindner, the Cincinnati, Ohio-based financier who would be one of the central figures in the $200 billion S&L rip-off. In 1959, Lindner and Keating co-founded American Financial Corporation (AFC). Keating served as the mortgage and insurance company's general counsel, and later as vice president.

Between 1974 and 1976, Lindner and Keating engineered a series of stock purchases and mergers with some of the leading figures in the Lansky crime syndicate—who had followed the Bronfman family recipe, and gone from "rags, to rackets, to riches, to respectability.

56 posted on 02/04/2008 6:09:29 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: pgkdan
Nope. If the GOP gives McCain the nod I’m looking elsewhere.

Agreed. I will NOT vote for a man who's spent the over two decades pimping for Teddy Kennedy. There are certain lines a person with principles cannot cross and voting for McCain is something I will NOT do.

Moreover, an old, visibly-diseased, psychotic RINO can do just too much damage to the country. What we are witnessing now is the death throes of the GOP, and it ain't pretty. There is no other way to plausibly explain a mediocrity like McCain getting the party nomination.

57 posted on 02/04/2008 6:13:02 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckabubba will never be president.)
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To: neverdem

When you have two equally bad choices... I would rather the Democrats get credit for the disaster than to try and defend the Republican disaster.

Fascism is fascism, doesn’t matter whether it is done by a Democrat or a Republican administration.


58 posted on 02/04/2008 6:13:37 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: neverdem

I think I'm gonna spew!
59 posted on 02/04/2008 6:18:15 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: E. Cartman
What we are witnessing now is the death throes of the GOP, and it ain't pretty. There is no other way to plausibly explain a mediocrity like McCain getting the party nomination.

Nope. I look at it as growing pains. If the party was going to die, it would've done so when it passed over Reagan for Ford. It didn't. It could've died when the Clintons took over. Instead, it came back with a surge!

Do not despair. A morning will come...if we do not get a conservative in the White House this time--that is, if McLame, Hussein or Hitlery take the reins--our day of victory will be delayed. But it will NOT be denied.

60 posted on 02/04/2008 6:22:05 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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