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Mitt Romney was against Ronald Reagan before he was for him (New McCain Ad)
YouTube ^ | February 04, 2008 | johnmccain.com

Posted on 02/05/2008 2:05:58 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

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To: txlurker

RINO Romney on Abortion 2002 and 2005

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxV-QNXoRIc&mode=related&search


41 posted on 02/05/2008 3:55:17 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: JohnnyZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGDkKa2OPA

McCain would champion in much the same thing and call it “getting things done” or whatever. We don’t have a candidate in that would lead a resistance against Democrat Healthcare schemes, but I’ll be shot dead if I vote for one that’ll invent a law that takes away my right to put an ad in the paper criticizing it 90 days before an election.


42 posted on 02/05/2008 3:56:49 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: elfman2
I'm not here to convince people to vote for McCain. I'm not voting for him.

But if you are defending and supporting another piece of lying scum like Romney, you're making a mockery of those supposed principles that lead you to oppose McCain.

43 posted on 02/05/2008 4:02:51 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Make all the promises you have to" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
ROMNEY's REAL IMPACT ON MASS:

""His first budget, presented under a cloud of a $2 billion deficit, balanced the budget with some spending cuts,
but a $500 million increase in various fees was the largest component of the budget fix."
Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.
Romney was rated a "C" overall by Cato.
As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal.
As Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., told the Boston Globe after the powwow: "Here you have a freshman governor refusing to endorse a tax cut presented by a Republican President at the height of his wartime popularity." As for the anti-tax pledge, a Romney spokesman dismissed it as "government by gimmickry."

ALSO

The Mass. taxpayer's cost of Romney's HillaryCARE=RomneyCARE1 has just surged.

Romney's scheme is sending Massachusetts toward bankruptcy.
Romney's scheme is now costing the MASS taxpayer an extra, unaccounted for,
loss of 1.4 billion dollars per year. Per year. And growing.

Subsidized care plan's cost to double (Uh, oh...bad news for Romney's Healthcare plan)

44 posted on 02/05/2008 4:06:47 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: JohnnyZ
mcinsane didn’t care about Conservatives or the Constitution UNTIL he actually started winning primaries. He doesn’t care... he just lies like always. I’d vote for Hirohito before I’d vote for mcamnesty. As bad a mitt is... and he is horrible... mcamnesty is far worse. Not going to happen dude... even if he wins we all lose. He’s a JOKE among those that know him best... the others are political whores vying for payment. The bold print looks plenty desperate.

LLS

45 posted on 02/05/2008 4:22:45 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So Romney supports a womans right to choose. He said he will enforce the existing laws. What do you expect him to do? I suspect that even if he said that he would change the existing law you would still find fault with him. If this is your “one” issue then you will never find a candidate with whom you can agree.


46 posted on 02/05/2008 4:23:25 AM PST by txlurker
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To: tabsternager
That would be bork... the judge that thinks that the Second Amendment is a “Collective Right”. What an ass... I celebrate the fact that bork the liberal NEVER attained a seat on the SCOTUS. He is a ginsberg with a beard. I’d bet he squats to pee like a girl!

LLS

47 posted on 02/05/2008 4:26:12 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: indylindy
Folks I really would like to support Mitt, however, I just have a few questions. Here are a few articles that I found on the net regarding Mitt. Boy, I sure would appreciate some answers to these very factual articles and youtube postings. The part that concerns me the most is when one hears Mitt in his own words. Any suggestions

Mitt on Illegal Immigration

Mitt Romney Supports Bush/McCain Amnesty Plan..IN HIS OWN WORDS

Illegal immigrants toiled for governor Romney'

Romney's lawn care company hires illegal immigrants...AGAIN!

Why did Mitt Romney hire illegal immigrants to work in his mansion?

Why do anti-illegal imigrant people hire illegal immigrants?

Romney's Lawn Trouble

Romney painters facing inquiry...violating labor laws and hiring illegals..otra ves!

Mitt on McCain/Fiengold

Mitt's Demands Campaign Finance Reforms

Mitt on Abortion

Mitt trashs Pro-Lifers

Mitt on Republicans

Mitt trashs Reagan

Mitt trashs Republicans

Mitt trashs Reagan Otra Ves

Mitt trashes the Contract with American and the Republicans Again

Mitt on Healthcare Debacle

Mitt and Hillary both in Favor of Mandates for Healthcare



RomneyCare still a spiraling fiscal disaster

Romneycare Mandates..Massachusetts Health Plan Denounced As Imminent 'Disaster'

Romney quiet on health care because his plan is a dismal failure

It's hard to tell everyone you're the heir to Ronald Reagan while you're touting Hillary Clinton's health care plan. There is no material difference between the two

Mitt on Liberal Judges

Romney appointed liberal judges in Massachusetts

Romney Jurist Not Tilted to Gop

Mitt on the Second Amendment

Mitt Romney - Gun Control

Mitt Romney Flip Flops on Gun Control



Mitt on the Taxes

Romney's tax record gets a closer look

Romney oversaw millions in fee hikes as Massachusetts governor

Romney - Increased state fees and taxes by three quarters of a billion dollars


48 posted on 02/05/2008 4:26:47 AM PST by Fred (Looking Forward to Impeaching the other Clinton)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I’d vote for Hirohito before I’d vote for mcamnesty.

The degree to which you're a sellout is not my concern.

The bold print looks plenty desperate.

As I'm sure you can gather, I was responding in kind to a previous post (#4) by a Romney-worshiper in type the same size.

49 posted on 02/05/2008 4:27:22 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Make all the promises you have to" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: JohnnyZ

“But if you are defending and supporting another piece of lying scum like Romney, you’re making a mockery of those supposed principles that lead you to oppose McCain.”

That’s a fair reply, but there’s another consideration.

A fundamental principle is that principles need to be applicable to reality. A set of unelectable principles have little values in a free society beyond academia. Romney’s leadership was right of center for Massachusetts, probably as conservative as possible.

What impresses me about Romney beyond the other two liberals is that I think he understands the principles that he has used to lead, buy not attempted to impose on the Massachusetts electorate.


50 posted on 02/05/2008 4:28:58 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: Brilliant
Whereas McCain was for Reagan before he was against him.

Excellent reply.

51 posted on 02/05/2008 4:39:14 AM PST by G.Love (Romney '08)
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To: Diogenesis

and what do you think president mccain will do to every state’s economy? I dont favor either Mccain or Romney but if thems the choice then its Romney. Its like choosing death by hanging or head cut off with a dull knife.


52 posted on 02/05/2008 4:41:12 AM PST by Liberty2007
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To: Fred

I know it takes awhile to wrap our brains around the idea that there is no real conservative candidate this time.

Face it, there isn’t much use going over the past with these guys because if you do, none of them are what we are looking for.

We aren’t going to be excited this time. Just the way it is.

I have narrowed my choice to choosing whoever all the tough on immigration folks have fallen behind. To me, it doesn’t really matter who the next POTUS is if the person allows the US to be flooded with millions more from south of the border. Thats my bottom line this time.

I see many around here have done the same since Fred dropped out. I do know what I won’t do is vote for the author of the amnesty bill, ever. As for Huck, he is in it to give McCain a boost and he has no chance of winning.

Sad days for conservatives, but I believe our choices and vetting ad nauseum time, has run out for 2008. Eventually it comes down to drawing your line in the sand and facing the reality.

Maybe someday conservatives can get the RINOs out. Right now it is bleak.


53 posted on 02/05/2008 4:42:06 AM PST by dforest (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: elfman2
If McCain wins the nomination, I'll vote Democrat just to help put a stake in the heart of this phony republican.

Watching all the really fat and sassy Republican country-clubbers come out to back McCain (and go absolutely nuts on anyone who disagrees with them) just makes my decision to leave the GOP seem all the more correct. They're taking revenge on those of us who were uppity enough to stop the McAmnesy bill, and are making certain we won't EVER have a say in the matter again. The GOP establishment needed the stake two years ago, but too many of us - self included - bought the party line BS.

At the time of the Iowa caucus, I was not paying enough attention to how much of the Republican party national apparatus was actually working against Mitt and Fred, believing it was just the MSM to blame. Shame on me; the MSM and the global wing of the GOP seem to have a beautiful working relationship when necessary. All those years of being the ranking Elephant on those communication committees certainly seems to have paid off for Senator McCain on a personal level,

(Not that the "straight talker" has ever been so much as within smelling distance of anything unethical... heavens, no.)

It'll be interesting to eventually find out how far back this all goes and who has been in on it with regards to McCain-Feingold, the alteration of the primary system, and all the other "coincidentals" that seem to have us by the nuts this morning. One thing is for certain here and now: John McCain will not get my vote and will never get my vote. He and the Howard Bakers of the party can play chicken with me, but I'm bound and determined to do my small part and hit them head-on in the voting booth come November.

Mr. niteowl77

54 posted on 02/05/2008 4:45:14 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: Recovering_Democrat

SOME DAY I AM GOING TO LEARN HOW TO FREEP IN THAT FONT!!!!!


55 posted on 02/05/2008 4:49:49 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Enough has been said already. The 2008 GOP RINO takeover is complete. It is what it is.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The difference between McCain and Romney is Romney WAS a liberal who has moved steadily to the right.

McCain was a conservative who has drifted steadily tot he left - so far that he is indistinguishable from a Democrat.
Now he wants us to believe he is still a Republican.


56 posted on 02/05/2008 4:54:24 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Fred

“Folks I really would like to support Mitt, however, I just have a few questions. Here are a few articles that I found on the net regarding Mitt. Boy, I sure would appreciate some answers to these very factual articles and youtube postings. The part that concerns me the most is when one hears Mitt in his own words.”

I don’t think you are going to get any answers from the Flip worshippers, at least not truthful answers. They simply do not care about anything he’s said or done in the past that proves him to be a liar or flip-flopper. Facts don’t matter to these folks, plain and simple. Their heads are up their rear ends and that’s where there going to stay until President Hillary and Vice President Obama win the election.

“Any suggestions”

Yeah, be prepared to be called a hater, biggot, idiot, McCain fanny sniffer, and a host of other lovely names. That’s what happens when you aren’t a group thinker like the rest of these fliparoos. Put your flame suit on because it ain’t gonna be pretty.


57 posted on 02/05/2008 5:04:32 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: JohnnyZ

No, I didn’t see it... I understand now.

LLS


58 posted on 02/05/2008 5:13:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for mitt... dammit!)
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To: JohnnyZ

Calling me a sellout and you sell your soul for msm mythological win. Hmmmmmm.

LLS


59 posted on 02/05/2008 5:14:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for mitt... dammit!)
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To: ZULU
Romney still is a Liberal, he has just said all the words that you need to hear to think otherwise.

How can we trust Miff Romney to lead America? He is a Liar and a Fraud. Don't be fooled.

60 posted on 02/05/2008 5:18:58 AM PST by Afronaut (RIght now Ron Paul has my vote. He has become the only choice.)
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