Posted on 02/05/2008 2:05:58 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
You fliparoos don’t seem to agree on this one. Very few Flip worshipers will even admit that he ever WAS a liberal, even though his record proves otherwise.
“McCain was a conservative who has drifted steadily tot he left - so far that he is indistinguishable from a Democrat.”
I’m not a McCain supporter, but I don’t think he has drifted steadily to the left. He zig zags back and forth and simply cannot be counted on when conservatives need him the most. He’s definitely not consistent, but he hasn’t drifted to the left as much as he’s zig zagged right and left.
“Now he wants us to believe he is still a Republican.”
Well, so what? Who cares about who’s a republican? Flip wants us to believe he’s a conservative—because he SAYS so. To me, it isn’t about who’s the most “republican”, it’s about electing a conservative with solid conservative credentials. Guess what? None of the republicans running right now have solid conservative credentials—NONE. And like it or not, national polls show that McCain can beat Hillary and Flip loses to her. But, by the time the Clinton sleaze machine gets done with McCain in November, expect to see him zig zagging back and forth in the senate again.
You are a liar. You would NOT like to support Mitt. You keep posting these same links on every thread.
I would put it differently. Romney was a liberal in office who now CLAIMS he has moved to the right.
We still have little to no evidence in the form of actions to back up his oh-so-convenient claims.
I find myself unable to trust him. Too damn slick.
Guess the statute of limitations has run out.
Who cares about who’s a republican?
Pretty much sums up the attitude of the McCainiacs
Romney is lesss a liberal than McCain and isn;t a liar.
McCain is the FATHER of lies. His entire career in Congress has been one big lie.
John McCain has a track record in Congress. A track record of liberal votes, backstabbing, cursing, hot-tempered tirades and conspiracies with Democrats.
I’ll take Romney thanks.
No, it sums up the attitude of CONSERVATIVES. FR is not a republican website, it’s a CONSERVATIVE forum. Thought you would have figured that out after being here for almost 8 years now.
And since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem, I am not supporting McCain.
If Romney had done differently, there would have been no Republican to succeed him as Governor.
As it turned out, Romney should have been even more liberal in order for his Lt. Governor to succeed him for the governorship. (Ms Kerry Healey). An extreme Limo-Liberal Dim is there instead.
Illegal immigrants toiled for governor Romney'
I couldn't’t care less. Romney says he asked the contractor not to hire illegal's, and the illegal's had fake IDs. There’s no reason to hold him responsible for that.
Romney's lawn care company hires illegal immigrants...AGAIN!
I could’t care less again.
Why did Mitt Romney hire illegal immigrants to work in his mansion?
You’re beating a dead horse.
Why do anti-illegal imigrant people hire illegal immigrants?
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Romney's Lawn Trouble
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Romney painters facing inquiry...violating labor laws and hiring illegals..otra ves!
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Mitt on McCain/Fiengold
Mitt's Demands Campaign Finance Reforms
Yep, Mitt’s spinning like a top, throwing out good sounding platitudes about money out of politics, spending limits and knowing where the money’s coming from (the last of which I can support). AFAIK, he didn't’t support McCain Feingold, but he’s not someone I would trust to hold the damn against it. BTW, Bush also decided that CFR wasn't’t the hill he was going to die on.
Mitt on Abortion
Mitt trashs Pro-Lifers
Sorry, I don’t have the time see nor the need to watch all that. He changed his mind from pro-life to pro-choice. We know that. I don't expect him to be strong either way.
Mitt on Republicans
Mitt trashs Reagan
That’s not “Trashing Reagan” by any measure. But even Reagan had an early history as a Democrat.
Mitt trashs Republicans
That’s not “Trashing Republicans”. It’s either claiming that he’s not traditional Republican, which we know - he’s a moderate, or he's just against one party rule. Some quotes could go either way.
Mitt trashs Reagan Otra Ves
BS Otra Ves.
Mitt trashes the Contract with American and the Republicans Again
Again, claiming he “Trashed the Contract with America” is nonsense. He was clearly just disagreeing with the CWA strategy of quickly rolling over the opposition without compromise. But there’s a good point in there. He’s a compromiser, a middle ground finder like Bush and can’t be expected to leverage an advantage to push anything through hard.
Mitt on Healthcare Debacle
Mitt and Hillary both in Favor of Mandates for Healthcare
I had to skim that, and all I saw was “I think people who can afford health insurance should either buy it or pay their own way.” But yes, he installed a universal health insurance program in Massachusetts paid for by employer mandates and taxes for the unemployed. I don’t know the details, don’t like it. It looks like Hillary/Obama Care light.
I have to skip the rest of the HC links. I'm sure state healthcare is a mess.
Mitt on Liberal Judges
Romney appointed liberal judges in Massachusetts
That's confusing, and certainly not a knock out considering the state he's governing.
Romney Jurist Not Tilted to Gop
To get a perspective on that we'd really need to see the affiliation breakdown of the pool of qualified judges in Massachusetts. Unless they're much worse than that, he's not leading.
Mitt on the Second Amendment
Mitt Romney - Gun Control
Okay, he's indicating that gun laws won't change (get better) under his administration.
Mitt Romney Flip Flops on Gun Control
Since you waste our time showing the same video twice, maybe you can show how that's a flip flop.
Mitt on the Taxes
Romney's tax record gets a closer look
That's not a bad piece. I was expecting worse from a democrat run technology state after the bubble popped & 9-11
Romney oversaw millions in fee hikes as Massachusetts governor
Looks like a repeat of the above article... skipped
Romney - Increased state fees and taxes by three quarters of a billion dollars
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Okay, Is that what leads you to another candidate in the race? With a little time, I could take Huck or McCain apart way better than that. This is a good demonstration that Ramney's a moderate, but not a liberal like McCain or Huckabee, and not as dangerous as McCain.
Or are you suggesting that we don't vote for even him over Hillary or Obama? You really don't want to compile a list like this on either of them.
Ramney's a little tougher to stomach after reading this. But he looks little better than GWB, especially with an ability to speak. (Imagine what Bush's record would look like if he came from Massachusetts). I'd still vote for him just to help thwart Hillary/Obam's plans, but not the two liberal republicans. I'd even vote for the democrat just to help make liberal republicans look even more unelectable nest time.
McCain has pretty much been what he is since 1997 -- or at least that's the reading of his ACU scores. Before that he typically scored in the 85-95 range. Since then, he's never gone past 80 or 81, or lower than 65. He tends to have a score in the mid/high 60s every three/four years, while in between a few years of 70/75/80. A typical Democrat is something like 10 or 15.
“And since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem, I am not supporting McCain.”
Getting a bit testy, aren’t we?
70 was passing when I was in school.
Still don’t like the man and think nominating him is a serious mistake for conservatives who vote for him.
That is a LIE!
Romney Seeks Mass. Income Tax Cut, Cites Economic Resurgence (source: M.I.T)
...the border...
ANOTHER LIE!Troopers can arrest illegal immigrants in Romney deal (source: Boston Herald)
...the 1st Amendment...
WRONG!
...the 2nd Amendment...
NOT QUITE!
...or the lives of unborn children....
NOPE!
Mitt Romney: A Leader for America (source: American Thinker)
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MITT ROMNEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PURE--BUT HE IS DARN MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN JOHN MCAMNESTY!
Two losers
“Two losers”...
Neither Governor Huckabee nor Congressman Hunter is a loser.
Going by the dictionary here...
Ronald Reagan would vote for McCain, just like he sucked it up and supported Gerry Ford, something that Michael Reagan pointed out a few days ago. He didn’t like Ford or his kind of “conservatism,” but he knew it was the right thing to do to try to keep the dems out of power.
Everybody throws Reagan’s name around like it’s sacred, but nobody wants to follow his lead.
Ronald Reagan would vote for McCain, just like he sucked it up and supported Gerry Ford, something that Michael Reagan pointed out a few days ago. He didn’t like Ford or his kind of “conservatism,” but he knew it was the right thing to do to try to keep the dems out of power.
Everybody throws Reagan’s name around like it’s sacred, but nobody wants to follow his lead.
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