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Conservatives vs. McCain
Denver Post ^ | 02/04/2008 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 02/05/2008 6:57:58 AM PST by Delacon

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To: AmericanExceptionalist

> I have heard this argument before, but I frankly do not
> understand it. How is it the fault of “the Republican
> establishment” that John McCain seems destined to become
> the GOP nominee in 2008?

Because the overwhelming preponderance of Republican Establishment types are backing him and promoting him, thinking that McCain’s love mutual masturbation affair with the media and the Left will win the general election.

They are short-sighted and foolish and will go down in flaming defeat in November, if the geriatric lunatic McCain is their nominee.

And if, by some chance, McCain were to win the general election, he will turn with fiery vengeance upon the conservative wing in the Republican Party, effectively eliminating the conservative voice from political discourse for the remainder of his presidency, and perhaps for some time to come afterwards.


81 posted on 02/05/2008 9:46:26 AM PST by Westbrook
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To: Delacon

Someone who gets it.


82 posted on 02/05/2008 9:48:07 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Delacon

Someone who gets it.


83 posted on 02/05/2008 9:52:50 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: HappyinAZ
he’s clearly NOT a person who will “sacrifice the country”.

Three words: McCain Kennedy Amnesty.

Don't try to sell me that. He attempted to do it just last summer. (And turned mean when he couldn't accomplish it.)

McCain, if elected, would reach across the aisle so many times to appease the left and his friends in the media that you wouldn't know what hit you.

Won't be a problem ultimately though because he's being set up by the left and the media anyway to self-destruct and cost congressional seats in the process.

84 posted on 02/05/2008 10:12:54 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: HappyinAZ

“The future of my country in the hands of a strong leader that votes conservative 85% of the time”

ACU’s most recent rating for McCain has him as conservative as Sen Ben Nelson of MN a DEMOCRAT.


85 posted on 02/05/2008 1:33:03 PM PST by Delacon (Don't Immanentize the Eschaton.)
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To: HappyinAZ
You think he won't sacrifice his country? LOL. Obviously, you approve who he hired, Mr. Juan Hernandez of open borders fame?

Next, you choose to overlook McCain's comprehensive immigration reform attitude and how he tried to ram it down our throats? We stopped him. He says he heard the message...I don't trust him.

McCain In Vanity Fair, Quote: “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”

Then there's McCain on YouTube, from June 5, 2007, promising that “We Are Not Going To Erect Barriers And Fences “

We don't need lectures from you, newbie. How much is the McCain campaign paying you to pimp for him here? Take a hike.

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86 posted on 02/05/2008 1:46:28 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: TommyDale
“The big problem isn’t just losing the Presidency, it is the Senate, the House and the Supreme Court that we fought over 40 years to regain. And because of one maniac, we stand to lose all of it.”

We’ve already lost the House and Senate and there is no guarantee that a McCain presidency would put forth a strict constructionist court. If we have a McCain presidency, congressional republicans will be wallowing around trying to decide if they should fight a Pres. McCain(the leader of the party) when he sides with liberals or fight for republican issues that got them elected. A democrat presidency would free up congressional republicans to fight the liberal president and fight for republican issues at ever turn and thereby unify the party. It helps that a democrat presidency will still have to face popular opposition to amnesty and tax hikes or retreating in Iraq. Four years of Hillary wont be as damaging as some may think. The sky isnt going to fall if it happens(the courts are my biggest worry). And it just may clarify what it means to be a conservative or a liberal, a republican or a democrat in 2012. McCain as president, on the other hand would be the liberal/conservative enabler.

87 posted on 02/05/2008 2:07:07 PM PST by Delacon (Don't Immanentize the Eschaton.)
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To: Delacon
"We’ve already lost the House and Senate and there is no guarantee that a McCain presidency would put forth a strict constructionist court."

If the Democrats get 60 Senate seats, kiss any hope of preventing liberal judges or Supreme Court judges, because the GOP won't even be able to filibuster. This will be the result of a McCain candidacy.

88 posted on 02/05/2008 2:55:26 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: HappyinAZ

And you gave us McCain. Thanks AZ. Don’t tell me you didn’t vote for him for senator.


89 posted on 02/05/2008 3:56:30 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: TommyDale
Something that many in the GOP seem to not understand.

I agree. It's also the concept of Pyrrhic victory that the R-party doesn't get. They don't see that they are sacrificing any claim to principle on the altar of McCain. They will get only ashes in return, whether he wins or loses. Should he win, there's no little way to form a solid conservative front on anything.

90 posted on 02/05/2008 8:51:47 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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