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Zogby polls: Not just wrong, shockingly wrong
SignsonSanDiego.com ^ | 2/6/08 | Shane Goldmacher

Posted on 02/06/2008 5:12:18 PM PST by LdSentinal

On the Republican side, the final Zogby poll showed former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney with a growing lead and 40 percent of the vote, followed by Sen. John McCain at 33 percent.

But once the votes started being tabulated Romney was actually substantially behind McCain, who appears on his way to nearly sweeping the state's 170 election delegates.

Current balloting results show McCain with 42.1 percent of the vote and Romney with 33.9 percent.

That, along with other wildly inaccurate pre-election polls, caused GOP strategist and Romney adviser Rob Stutzman to tell The Bee's Amy Chance on Tuesday night, "Kill the pollsters."

On the Democratic side, Zogby didn't fare much better, predicting a rout by Sen. Barack Obama of Sen. Hillary Clinton by 16 points.

There was a rout. But it was Clinton that won by 10 points, 52 percent to 42 percent, not Obama.

John Zogby is blaming sampling error. You think?

I find it interesting and satisfying that Survey USA got California's Dem race exactly race. It has robots poll voters. There's no intrinsic reason why robo-calls should be less accurate than human-call polls, especially given all the parlor guessing games about why people might lie to their interviewers. But other pollsters scorn them, and the media often go along -- without looking at the actual records of robo vs. regular.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; arab; arabism; poll; supertuesday; zogby
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Zogby puts his special Arab Nazi sauce into his polls.
1 posted on 02/06/2008 5:12:22 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Nobody around here trusts Zogby.


2 posted on 02/06/2008 5:15:52 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: LdSentinal

Mama mia ! That’s a spicy meatball !


3 posted on 02/06/2008 5:18:41 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: LdSentinal

Just gotta stay out of them back alley’s


4 posted on 02/06/2008 5:19:03 PM PST by MEpajamaMONSTER (Peace peace.......)
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To: LdSentinal

Zogby had a good run in 1996, and it has been downhill ever since. Why anyone continues to pay for his “services” is beyond me.


5 posted on 02/06/2008 5:19:37 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: LdSentinal

Zogby 2004: “Kerry wins by a landslide”

Zogby has no credibility as a pollster.


6 posted on 02/06/2008 5:22:47 PM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: LdSentinal

It does occur to my twisted little mind that maybe Zogby was right. But as we know McCain and Huckabee made deals with each other against Romney, trading delegates.

And there were a fair number of shennanigans at the polls. Who knows how much of this disparity was caused by hillary’s cheating?

Not that I think much of Zogby, but why would he try to help Romney? Hussein Obama, maybe.


7 posted on 02/06/2008 5:23:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LdSentinal

McCain is the candidate of choice though...


8 posted on 02/06/2008 5:25:25 PM PST by claudiustg (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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To: LdSentinal
I have never belied polls and never will.

Too many here post too many ridiculous polls and either let their days be ruined by them, or they are ecstatic over them.

And lets please stop with the post where we must Freep the poll. Online polls are completely worthless.

9 posted on 02/06/2008 5:25:50 PM PST by technomage (Political Axis Of Evil: McCain, Huckabee, Paul)
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To: LdSentinal

For this article, I made an exception to my rule of never clicking on a thread that contains the word “Zogby” in the title.


10 posted on 02/06/2008 5:26:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Domandred

Amazingly, Zogby still claims that poll was right.


11 posted on 02/06/2008 5:27:19 PM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: LdSentinal
Zogby's Arab Nazi Barbecue Sauce


12 posted on 02/06/2008 5:27:51 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: LdSentinal

Rasmussen Polls have been way off too. Maybe the pollsters should keep quiet and stop trying to influence people.


13 posted on 02/06/2008 5:27:52 PM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: LdSentinal

Zogby proves, once again, that they are not to be believed.

The best approach is to do your own homework. Learn the positions of the various candidates and make up your own mind. Polls be damned.


14 posted on 02/06/2008 5:28:00 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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Zogby always slips agenda into sampling and sometimes, I suspect, even into results. I generally ignore anything Zogby-originating.
15 posted on 02/06/2008 5:32:34 PM PST by alecqss
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To: ricks_place
Hmmm...since when is Taiwan an Arab country?

Maybe Zogby wants the match-up to be Obama vs. Romney, on the theory that Obama would win easily.

16 posted on 02/06/2008 5:33:28 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: alecqss

I don’t buy him either.


17 posted on 02/06/2008 5:33:39 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Krankor

Nothing amazing about it. Just wait till general election...


18 posted on 02/06/2008 5:34:08 PM PST by alecqss
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To: LdSentinal

The pollsters have figured out how to suppress the vote... thats all this proves

Your candidate is ahead by a wide margine, so you stay home and relax...

We need some way to vote over the internet


19 posted on 02/06/2008 5:39:07 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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I trust Zogby like I trust my local weather forcast.


20 posted on 02/06/2008 5:45:01 PM PST by AGreatPer (Insane McCain)
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