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McCain Can Be A Genius...Romney!
self | 2/7/08 | levotb

Posted on 02/08/2008 12:04:55 AM PST by levotb

Mitt Romney has bowed out gracefully. He's the epitome of a gentleman, a real class act. Many of us will miss him, like the death of a loved one or friend, there's a void in the gut and heart that no one can fill. No one.

While some conservative sites like conservativetimes.org and alipac.us are pushing for Lou Dobbs to throw his hat in as an Independent, I came up with a brainstorm earlier today that will give John McCain The White House. It's probably not going to happen--for a VARIETY of reasons--but it IS the ONLY way that McCain will be able to "woo" enough of us conservatives to pull the lever for him in November, and make him President.

Most of us probably assumed that McCain would select Huckabee for his running mate. The reason is a strong and valid one--Huckabee can give him many Southern states. However, upon further reflection, one would have to conclude that although Huckabee would be an "asset" in the South, he would be AN ALBATROSS in the Northeast, Northern Midwest, West and parts of the Southwest! The reason is obvious: Huckabee's main support is derived from Evangelicals, mostly in the South and parts of the Midwest. The Mormons have large contingents in CA, AZ, NV, MT, MN, etc.--Romney strongholds. Even in AZ, Romney did surprisingly well against McCain head to head. Huckabee is ONLY an advantage to McCain in the South, Iowa, Missouri and Tennessee. And Huckabee has some real "negatives" with non-Evangelical conservatives with his talk about changing the Constitution to his phony anti-illegal immigration "religion" he suddenly found during the late stages of the race.

What I am obviously suggesting is "the unthinkable", but I believe McCain, jerk that he is, is a SMART pol who knows what he has to do to beat the Democrat, whoever it is. And THAT, my friends, means getting conservatives BACK into the GOP fold because many have left or are contemplating leaving soon! It would be a huge slap in Huckabee's face, but reality is reality, and McCain NEEDS the conservative votes EVERYWHERE, NOT just in the South!. If he DOESN'T make Mitt Romney his VP mate--assuming Mitt would accept--McCain stands to lose:

CA NY UT CO MT ID MN ME MI MA NV OR WA

...and possibly even Missouri, which Romney did well in on Tuesday. In fact, Romney even helps McCain in Florida where McCain did NOT do well with Republicans percentage-wise! That's a LOT of states to loose, and McCain (in a divided party) CANNOT afford to lose many of them.

So, while speaking to CPAC as he just did and other conservative orgs may help him a little, McCain is fighting a losing battle. The Dems are NOT divided over ideology as the Republican Party is--they're divided over personality and to a lesser degree, race. While big differences exist over in the GOP, there are far fewer differences between the Hillary voters and Obama voters. Therefore, it will be more likely that either Hillary or Obama will be able to mend fences and bring that monster together as "one" than it will bringing together McCain and we "balking conservatives".

How does McCain stop the bleeding and the balking? In ONE press conference, with Mitt behind him and Mitt's entire family on the stage behind him with wives making pleasantries and the like, John "Psycho" McCain will become John "the Genius" McCain. He can move "to the next level", to President in a shrewd and seemingly UNBELIEVABLE chess move that will CHECKMATE the Dems! McCain will offer a position in the Admninistration to Huckabee (which Huckabee will likely turn down) and Huckabee will, of course, have the option of running again in 2012. But in selecting Romney as VP and making a BIG thing about it, John McCain will bring BACK into the fold enough conservatives--even, possibly, me!--to win in November AND HE'LL BE CALLED "A GENIUS" FOR DOING IT!

Now, if you didn't like what I just proposed, the next idea I have is also not going to sit well with some McCainites and other centrists, particularly the country clubbing rich--the globalists who love the open borders and cheap, illegal alien labor. In my humble opinion, IN ORDER TO GET ROMNEY TO JOIN THE CAMPAIGN AS HIS VP MATE, JOHN McCAIN WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING PUBLICLY IN THE SAME OR AT A DIFFERENT NEWS CONFERENCE:

1) State to the country that "Amnesty for illegal aliens is dead. I will NEVER allow it to happen during my term in office, I swear!"

2) State to the country: "Illegal aliens--ALL of them--MUST leave the United States in a peaceful manner. The benefits of 30 to 40 million illegal aliens leaving the U.S. will be unbelievable. Americans will once again become gainfully employed. Crime will drop dramatically. Back in their respective countries, the non-serious criminal illegals can get at the back of the line and wait to enter the U.S. legally and if they get to the FRONT of the line sometime later, they will never be allowed to bring their relatives, wives, etc. with them. 'Chain migration' is over! They will only be able to enter legally on a work or other visa and they will be required to check with ICE or DHS on a regular basis to review for any criminal record. Once back in the U.S. on a work visa, they will NOT be allowed to take jobs of American workers such as construction, Hotel and restaurant work, etc. And, most importantly, DHS will allow only a small number of (now) LEGAL aliens to enter and live in the U.S., again, WITHOUT their spouses, families, friends, etc. and as with the Bracero Program, they will have to return to their countries periodically--their actual homes. If they break BACK into the U.S. illegally again and are caught, they will be put in Fed. prison for 5 years--no exceptions and no appeals. Those caught in I.D. theft and production, human and drug smuggling will be given SEVERE prison sentences. I will ask Congress to pass stricter sentences for Fed. criminals who are caught doing and convicted of doing these outrageous things. These criminals will not simply be deported. They will serve out their sentences without appeal or plea bargaining."

3) State to the country and to Mexico and all other countries: "Henceforth, all foreign national murderers who escape to Mexico after committing their murder in the U.S. will, upon conviction of murder and other horrific acts, be automatically given the Federal death penalty. If Mexico or any other countries where these murderers have fled to refuses to catch and hand over these vicious murderers, I have instructed our plain-clothesed Federal agents to go to Mexico or whatever country, find those murderers and bring them back to face justice! I will NOT accept the extortion that has been going on by these small third world countries who refuse to hand over murderers of Americans in the U.S. because of these countries abhorrence of capitol punishment!"

4) State to the country: "As President, I am ending the insane practice of our Defense Department recruiting and hiring illegal alien gang members to absolve their criminal pasts by serving in our Armed Forces. We've been sewing the oats of our own demise by doing so and all illegals presently serving in the U.S. armed forces will be honorably discharged and deported to their countries of origin."

5) State to the nation: "I will completely revamp and streamline the USCIS. In particular, EXPEDITED REMOVAL will become the order of the day at that agency. I will tell Congress to budget the hiring of more attorneys and judges, if necessary, to hear immigration violation cases to speed up the process. Illegal aliens will NOT be able to "work the system" any longer by legal efforts on the part of their attorneys. Endless appeals will be a thing of the past."

6) State to the nation: "I will work with Congress to develop a plan to end the birthright citizenship of anchor babies. Illegal aliens who break into the U.S. and have their babies born here will be deported and their babies shall NOT be "citizens"! Ted Olsen, Kris Kobach and other legal experts will assist in such a law or challenge to the Supreme Court's previous rulings."

7) State to the nation: "Any country that assists or advises (through literature or physically assists) its citizens in breaking into the U.S. and trying to blend in with American society will be put on notice AS OUR ENEMY! Any and all such practice by other countries currently friendly to the U.S. shall stop, or there will be financial/trade consequences that will be severe. We will simply NOT tolerate such behavior by our 'friends'."

"There will be more; these are just some of the aspects of illegal immigration and the responses to it that will be my committment to the American people."

If John McCain gives such a speech to the American people, with Gov. Romney at his side, he will HAVE my vote and I believe, he will be President.

Back to reality, however. This is of course a highly unlikely scenario, but it IS "food for thought". Speaking of which, it's time to heat up some take-out I bought earlier and enjoy reading the many superb stories and ideas written by Freeper friends!

One other thing. If John McCain does even HALF of what I suggest he do above and picks Mitt Romney as his VP, I will be EXTREMELY giddy and happy, as I contend other conservatives will be. Romney will be heir-apparent to McCain if McCain decides to sit for just one term (He'll be 76 in 2012). Romney will be in a much stronger position as VP in 2012 than having to run again as an outsider. In making Romney his VP, John McCain will make a FRIEND out of a foe--and be the better for it! And the GOP will survive perhaps another 100 years.

I wonder if McCain would consider such a move.


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To: DoughtyOne

It won’t take that long. We’ll probably know once the polls close in CA.


181 posted on 02/08/2008 4:50:00 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: levotb

Sounds good to me.


182 posted on 02/08/2008 4:51:36 AM PST by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

bttt


183 posted on 02/08/2008 4:51:55 AM PST by petercooper (Let's vote for the sickly, demented, terrorist-appeasing, illegal alien-coddling, senile, old guy.)
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To: levotb

“I have been her imperfect servant for many years, and I have made many mistakes. You can attest to that...” SO WHY SHOULD I VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO MAKES MANY MISTAKES TO THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES? Sorry but I’d rather not vote.

“We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won’t continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord.” ISN’T THAT SWEET. HE’ll SEEK OUR COUNSEL...AND THEN SEEK TEDDY KENNEDY’S....SCREW HIM, WHAT GALL. JOHN MCCAIN HAS THE HUBRIS to stand up in front of conservatives and say that...he can kiss my butt...The Republicans have been just as phony as the democrats, when they had a chance while in the majority...they thought less government was as much PORK as they could get for their states...Hypocrites all. LAWYERS who thwart the laws. Jesus spoke of them...WIDOW ROBBERS! Who cares who gets elected. It’s all going to socialism anyway...that’s what stupid Americans want....a Jerry Springer show government...a freak show...


184 posted on 02/08/2008 4:52:34 AM PST by Chuck N
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To: ari-freedom

Most illegals simply fly in, but that’s beside the point.


185 posted on 02/08/2008 4:53:19 AM PST by petercooper (Let's vote for the sickly, demented, terrorist-appeasing, illegal alien-coddling, senile, old guy.)
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To: levotb

McCain will not select Huckabee or Romney as a running mate. My guess is Crist from FL.


186 posted on 02/08/2008 4:56:10 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: MrPiper

Be my guest.


187 posted on 02/08/2008 5:04:18 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: TinaJeannes

In order to join the military dont they have to have a green card or issued one when they sign up? and since they are in the military we know where they are , and we also know they are not ill. Unlike others here.
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Illegal aliens dont get Alien Registration cards (green cards)

Illegal aliens dont serve in the US military


188 posted on 02/08/2008 5:05:59 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: levotb
Apparently a lot of you haven’t heard of the phrase “tongue and cheek”. That is unfortunate.

Huh? I've heard of tongue INcheek. It is unfortunate that you are upset that people did not recognize your posting as sarcasm.

189 posted on 02/08/2008 5:10:38 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Onerom99

” Romney wants the job, that’s for damn sure.

He’s going to have a tough time going back to his constituents in Mass. and getting re-elected after his move to the right for these primaries. “

ummmm....
Romney isn’t getting re-elected. He’s not the governor anymore. He declined to run for re-election so he could peresue the nomination. “Coupe DeVal” Patrick is our governor. God Help Us.


190 posted on 02/08/2008 5:13:40 AM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Darkwolf377
A VP choice might be more significant in this case because McCain is older.

Being President is a much more demanding job than being a Senator. If McCain were to win the presidency by some strange stroke of luck, I think he would have great difficulty even getting the nomination for a second term, not just because of his politics but because of his age.

That might make people weigh his choice of Vice Presidential candidates more carefully.

In general I agree that the choice of VPs is almost meaningless to most voters, and I doubt that McCain's age will make it a major factor, but at best this is going to be a close race for McCain, and he needs every vote he can get.

191 posted on 02/08/2008 5:17:29 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: NavVet

ok so he would appoint people like John Roberts but he actually did vote for Alito and Bork. is that so terrible? he wants conservative judges but he doesn’t want nominees that will create another controversy.

this is what he feels on abortion in full context
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm
John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench. Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.

However, the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion. Once the question is returned to the states, the fight for life will be one of courage and compassion - the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby. The pro-life movement has done tremendous work in building and reinforcing the infrastructure of civil society by strengthening faith-based, community, and neighborhood organizations that provide critical services to pregnant mothers in need. This work must continue and government must find new ways to empower and strengthen these armies of compassion. These important groups can help build the consensus necessary to end abortion at the state level. As John McCain has publicly noted, “At its core, abortion is a human tragedy. To effect meaningful change, we must engage the debate at a human level.”
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Now the one tax increase you could find was one on cigarettes in 1998. Not exactly a tax increase on the rich or anti-growth.

On the other hand, I looked at the Romney tax plan and there is no tax cut for the rich either. If you make over $200k then there is no elimination or reduction of capital gains. He cuts the bottom, not the top rate. And I don’t know how he expected to ‘pay’ for the plan since a low income tax cut won’t result in higher revenues.

He was doing the same thing and I don’t understand why you only beat up on McCain. However, McCain does have a record of cutting tax cuts for the “rich.” It’s just that he doesn’t vote for each and every single tax cut proposal.

The fact that he has Donald Luskin, Kemp, Forbes and Phil Gramm instead of Paul Krugman on his economic team should give you a hint what kind of president he will be. But McCain doesn’t do things in a very overt way.
That’s intentional because if a candidate throws himself out as the next Rush Limbaugh or Robert Bork, he would be creamed instantly.


192 posted on 02/08/2008 5:35:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think US military service should be the only option for illegals to stay in our country and to become non-illegal. It should be offered to healthy military age respectible appearing men as an alternative to deportation.


193 posted on 02/08/2008 5:50:51 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: NavVet

He hasn’t reevaluated his position on Amnesty, etc...

he will. He just admitted the amnesty bill was a mistake. Listen to the cpac speech again. He will also be “educated” in economics


194 posted on 02/08/2008 6:07:25 AM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: niteowl77

I think I was at that same car lot. Was your salesman’s name Juan per chance? I noticed it when he pulled out his wallet to show me his truth squad badge. He said he hoped I didn’t notice the tarnish on it, it was a cracker jack one and they just didn’t make them like they used to.

When I asked if he would take less for the car, he asked me if I had my bank statement. He would be willing to knock off a little if I wasn’t one of those rich folk that had a job and money in the bank. I told him I had a job but not much in the bank, having just paid the taxes on my dad’s ice cream business that he passed on to me (God rest his soul) and those employees sure appreciated my keeping it open so they could have a job.

He gave me a snooty look and said that he couldnt knock any off, but if I wanted to get rid of the business and apply for some help, he would be more than willing to give it to me a bit cheaper and even throw in a tank of gas and coupon for one free gallon of gas a month.

Something about that didn’t set well with me. I told him it didn’t really seem like too good of a trade off and that I didn’t think I was interested at the time. He told me that he was a leader in car sales and I just ran an ice cream business, that he knew cars and I could trust him.... it was a real deal.

I could tell the people standing around didn’t care for the answer... I’m still trying to get the tar and feathers off. A few more rinses with Gipper cleanser should do the trick though.


195 posted on 02/08/2008 6:15:47 AM PST by NoDhimitude4Me
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To: All

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196 posted on 02/08/2008 6:18:25 AM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck :))
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To: niteowl77

That was excellent niteowl77. I think I will forward to Ingraham—I’ll give you credit.


197 posted on 02/08/2008 7:00:19 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: ari-freedom

Sunday, January 27th, 2008
Amnesty John: Would STILL Sign McCain-Kennedy

Less then a week after saying he has heard the American people regarding illegal immigration and their opposition to the McCain-Kennedy Pro-Amnesty bill, John McCain would still SIGN THE BILL into law if he was President and it came across his desk:

McCain’s only concesion is to now say, “I know we need to secure the border first.” Of course the clear implication is that the second thing would still be amnesty. Also, McCain maintains, even in yesterday’s speach, that only a consensus that the border is secure is necesscary before granting amnesty. In other words NO FENCE. He will get a few people to say, “Looks secure to me.” and then he’ll open the flood gates.


198 posted on 02/08/2008 7:46:59 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: FreeAtlanta

You want criminals in the US military ???

You want illegal aliens who have had no regard for our laws...who have deliberately flaunted our laws and broken into our country...

to serve in our military ???

To enlist in the military, a person must be honorable and trustworthy...and sworn to uphold the COTUS and protect our country...

an illegal alien has already proved he cannot be trusted and mocked our laws and has no integrity...

And no interest in “serving” our country...


199 posted on 02/08/2008 7:47:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Mormons may not have been open to blacks in the past

I appreciate your thoughts.
Mormons have been open to them as members. It is just that they didn’t Proselytize them or ordain them to the priesthood until recently. (with some exceptions.) Since there were so few blacks in the LDS church and I suppose because the general public attitude was to give the blacks second class status, that was the way it was for a while in the LDS church. Actually, there were some blacks that came with the Mormons to the Salt Lake Valley in 1847.

I know a little bit about the Mormon feelings toward blacks. I was raised in a Mormon family. My nephew (very blond) married a girl from the Dominican Republic (very black). So at family reunions there are a lot of black and white children running around playing together.

200 posted on 02/08/2008 7:58:24 AM PST by broncobilly
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