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RFID: What sort of trouble does this technology enable?
Firearms&Freedom ^ | 2008-02-08 | Mike Acker

Posted on 02/08/2008 5:55:20 AM PST by Mike Acker

What sort of trouble does this technology enable?

Technology can be a Good Thing but that doesn't mean we should fall over the bar-stool implementing new technology -- "just because it's there"

We need to ask the question: What sort of trouble does this new technology enable?" before we proceed.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: realid; rfid
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To: Lazamataz; Mike Acker
Third, conservative ideas are welcomed here, but proper etiquette dictates one must categorize them correctly.

Fourth, there is a limited amount of tinfoil to go around. Conserve it.

41 posted on 02/08/2008 7:19:39 AM PST by TankerKC (I tried to find more Nixon.)
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To: misterrob
First let us distinguish between rights and powers.

Rights are what people have and are inalienable, given by Darwin or God.

Powers are what government has -- given by free people.

Private business has the right to implement RFID in all of their stores. We have the right to shop where we choose.

Government has no rights and no power to implement RFID technology or force RFID by law, unless we give them that power.

To do so would be a bad idea.

42 posted on 02/08/2008 7:21:03 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: knarf
I never notified anyone or anything.

You really should get a death certificate drawn up then.

43 posted on 02/08/2008 7:23:40 AM PST by TankerKC (I tried to find more Nixon.)
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To: TankerKC
Oh ... all THAT was done ... still have a couple of copies left ... I guess the connection was/is the funeral home.

I just thought it tinfoilish to have never notified any gummint anyone's ... and they already knew ... and had acted.

44 posted on 02/08/2008 7:32:42 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Lazamataz
Secondly, not all ideas are welcome here. Try advocating liberal ideas.

I hate to be Clintonesque, but define "welcome." Do you mean that they will be silenced, or that they will be received with many, sometimes hostile, replies?

I'm pretty hard-core on free speech. If you are forcibly stopped from expressing yourself, that violates free speech. If you are out-shouted, that is just a bunch of other folks exercising free speech.

NB: I'm talking about free speech as a philosophical construct, not a constitutional issue. No one is talking about government intrusion here. And while I love a freewheeling debate, FR is a private site, and JRob and the admins can enforce whatever rules they see fit. As the old saying goes, if you want to exercise freedom of the press, buy a press; you're not entitled to the use of mine.

As a matter of philosophy, I prefer to engage in a free flow of ideas. If a site or any forum is too restrictive, I can opt out. In the marketplace of ideas, as in any marketplace, the market that is too restrictive sees folks taking their business elsewhere.

I don't see the FR restrictions as overly restrictive, and the volume of posts seems to indicate that I am not alone in that conclusion. The rules around here serve to maintain an atmosphere of relative civility -- spamming, trolling, bigotry and profanity are all subjective, but it's up to the mods to know it when they see it.

45 posted on 02/08/2008 7:34:27 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Lazamataz
Secondly, not all ideas are welcome here. Try advocating liberal ideas.

I hate to be Clintonesque, but define "welcome." Do you mean that they will be silenced, or that they will be received with many, sometimes hostile, replies?

I'm pretty hard-core on free speech. If you are forcibly stopped from expressing yourself, that violates free speech. If you are out-shouted, that is just a bunch of other folks exercising free speech.

NB: I'm talking about free speech as a philosophical construct, not a constitutional issue. No one is talking about government intrusion here. And while I love a freewheeling debate, FR is a private site, and JRob and the admins can enforce whatever rules they see fit. As the old saying goes, if you want to exercise freedom of the press, buy a press; you're not entitled to the use of mine.

As a matter of philosophy, I prefer to engage in a free flow of ideas. If a site or any forum is too restrictive, I can opt out. In the marketplace of ideas, as in any marketplace, the market that is too restrictive sees folks taking their business elsewhere.

I don't see the FR restrictions as overly restrictive, and the volume of posts seems to indicate that I am not alone in that conclusion. The rules around here serve to maintain an atmosphere of relative civility -- spamming, trolling, bigotry and profanity are all subjective, but it's up to the mods to know it when they see it.

46 posted on 02/08/2008 7:35:09 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
"We already have...SPECTRE"


Quick, get Mr. Bond on the case!


47 posted on 02/08/2008 7:55:23 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Lazamataz

I’ll just pull yer plug and you’ll vanish completely ( tee hee )

Now unless I’m greatly mistaken, Free Republic is all about the free expression of ideas. and that is all that I’ve done here this morning

I know a lot of good folks are not going to agree with the ideas in my post. that is expected.

but what is important is that as a free people we have the opportunity to discuss ideas — whatever they may be.


48 posted on 02/08/2008 8:26:49 AM PST by Mike Acker
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To: misterrob

>> RFID doesn’t infringe upon personal freedoms, people do.

+1


49 posted on 02/08/2008 8:48:35 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: BikerJoe

Location, to me, is the biggest one.


50 posted on 02/08/2008 9:03:28 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: misterrob

Guns yes, because they have recreational and practical uses, but rfids have no purpose other than to track something...or someone.


51 posted on 02/08/2008 9:08:56 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: misterrob

To me, the very idea of being able to track someone by their purchases, is simply un-American, it’s a matter of freedom.


52 posted on 02/08/2008 9:11:44 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Nervous Tick

Yeah, the people monitoring the rfids.


53 posted on 02/08/2008 9:14:18 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: knarf
This probably applies here .... When I went to the polls to vote in Nov., 2004 ... my wife's name was already gone ... she died in June.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Yes, it is always interesting (and worrisome) to see how the connections are made.
54 posted on 02/08/2008 9:37:02 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: stuartcr
Location, to me, is the biggest one.

Then you better ditch your cell phone too.
55 posted on 02/08/2008 9:38:50 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: BikerJoe

And we’re really screwed once they start putting RFID tags in our money.


56 posted on 02/08/2008 9:40:49 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: BikerJoe

Don’t have one.


57 posted on 02/08/2008 9:40:55 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

Hah...

The advent of technology that created computers and databases opened Pandora’s box with respect to privacy and information. When you purchase something it gets recorded, request information and it is recorded, sign up and it is recorded. Live somewhere and that information is recorded. That information is stored and used to market and sell stuff directly or indirectly.


58 posted on 02/08/2008 9:51:57 AM PST by misterrob
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To: stuartcr

RFID has practical uses beyond the hysterical as well.


59 posted on 02/08/2008 9:54:11 AM PST by misterrob
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To: Bear_Slayer

——Government has no rights and no power to implement RFID technology or force RFID by law, unless we give them that power.——

Please allow me to rephrase the sentence.

Government has no rights and no power to implement RFID technology or force RFID by law even if the majority of the people vote it into law, because we are a Republic not a Democracy.


60 posted on 02/08/2008 10:16:42 AM PST by ResponseAbility
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