Question is are we flogging the dead horse or are we trying to educate those like the let-wing media with horse blinders on?
Posted on 02/08/2008 8:29:18 AM PST by jveritas
Our FRiend “April15bendovr” made a great YouTube video about Iraq WMD based on the information I supplied him from the captured Saddam regime documents. Please watch this video Saddam WMD based on Captured Iraqi documents and send the link of the video to as many people as you can because it is very important to know the ultimate truth “Saddam never stopped working on his WMD programs”.
Also below is the text of the video.
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“It was clear that there is another branch committee from the Industrial Committee headed by Dr. Mahdi Shakr Ghali that currently evaluates the Researches That Cannot Be Declared, Researches with relation to the previous Prohibited Programs... This is an important subject and it is dangerous in case this information is leaked one way or another.” That was a quote General Housam Ahmad Amin, one of Saddam regime top officials on September/16/1998 talking about secret programs related to WMD according to Iraqi document CMPC-2003-002284.”
On the 5th year anniversary of “Operation Iraqi Freedom” and the Liberation of Iraq, no stockpiles of WMD were yet to be found in Iraq however this does not mean that Saddam regime stopped working on WMD programs, in fact we believe that the regime continued to work on WMD in particular the Chemical Weapons program. In this short video we will show you that Saddam regime Saddam regime strategy in building their Chemical Weapons program from 1998-2003. Based on captured Iraqi documents we strongly believe that Saddam regime opted to produce all the Precursors (or base Materials) required for making Chemical Weapons rather than building the final Chemical Weapon products. Once the Precursors are available it would be very easy and quick to build the final chemical weapons, in most cases it only take weeks if not days to build it. There are two main reasons why Saddam regime chose to build the Precursors for the chemical weapons rather than the final product. The first one is that those Precursors are classified under what is called “dual use materials” where it can be used both in civilian and WMD industries, and Saddam regime can always claim that these precursors were produced for civilian industry. The second reason is that the Precursors have longer shelf life than the final chemical weapons program which means it can be stored for a much longer of time and assembled.
Saddam regime produced the “Chemical Weapons Precursors” for the “Chemical Weapons” under the cover of a project the Iraqis called “The Pharmaceutical and Pesticides Project” that effectively started somewhere in the year 1999. The Iraqis always gave industrial names as a deceptive mean to cover their WMD projects. For example their previous Nuclear Weapons Program prior to the 1991 Gulf War was called “Petrochemical 3 Project”. The Iraqis were very careful in camouflaging their WMD programs and productions even prior to the 1991 Gulf War. They rarely used the expression “Chemical Weapons” and even when they were using Chemical Weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds in the 1980’s and they called it “Special Ammunition” according to captured Iraqi document CMPC 2004-002219
There are many documents pertaining to “The Pharmaceutical and Pesticides Projects” and in these documents we find the plans, and the production projects for the “Chemical Precursors” to build “Chemical Weapons”. Under the United Nations sanctions, the Iraqi were totally prohibited to locally produce these “Chemical Precursors” but rather they may import it in very limited quantities and under strict UN importing regulations.
Under “The Pharmaceutical and Pesticides Projects” are the productions and research of materials like Potassium Cyanide and Sodium Cyanide which is used to make TABUN Nerve Gas. Also DICYLOHEXYLDIACARBODIIMIDE and Phosphorus Pentasulfide which are used to make VX Nerve Gas. Other materials in this project include Phosphorus oxychloride, Thiophosphoryl Chloride and Thionyl Chloride that are used to make different types of Chemical Weapons. These Chemical Weapons precursors are listed in Iraqi documents ISGQ-2003-00044424, CMPC-2003-013956, ISGQ-2005-00023243.
From 1998 to 2001 Saddam regime produced a lot of prohibited “Chemical Defensive Equipments” such as “Nerve Gas Detectors” and “Chemical Decontamination Vehicles” as per Iraqi documents CMPC-2003-016083 and ISGQ-2004-00220151. Though these equipments sound defensive in nature, the UN did not allow Saddam regime to produce it because they are also required when conducting a Chemical Weapon attack or transferring Chemical Weapons. In fact the document that talks about producing “Nerve Gas Detector” had a clear admission from the Iraqis that it was prohibited to produce it but never the less they were producing it. Moreover a large number of documents talks in details about the extensive Chemical Warfare exercises that the Iraqi conducted for different branches of their military, these exercises increased in frequency and scale in the years 1999-2002 to the point of obsession. In addition according to the documents the Iraqis were always looking to purchase and store tens of thousands of Chemical protection gears and anti-Chemical Weapons medicine such Atropine injections.
It is very important to understand the extremely paranoid nature of Saddam regime and why it was extremely important for them to possess the ability to produce “Chemical Weapons” very quickly. It was the “Chemical Weapons” that saved Saddam regime during the Iraq-Iran war from 1980-1988. It was the “Chemical Weapons” that crushed the Kurds rebellion in 1987-1988 when Saddam savagely massacred tens of thousands of Kurdish civilians. Saddam regime was totally paranoid that Iran will attack them at anytime and the only way for them to resist and stop the Iranians who are superior in numbers is to use “Chemical Weapons” against them, therefore the Baghdad regime cannot afford not to have the capability of producing these weapons. They simply cannot be in “defensive mode” against a Chemical attack from Iran but they need to have the capability of attacking back and decisively with Chemical Weapons of their own.
Where are the “Chemical Weapons Precursors” located?
Based on some captured documents we have great suspicions that Saddam regime buried the “Chemical Weapons Precursors” in the Western Desert, in particular in the Anbar province. These documents give a strong hint about the possible locations where these “Chemical Weapons Precursors” can be buried and all these locations are in one particular district in the remote area of the Anbar province. According to the documents that were written in 1999-2003 Saddam regime was looking for location in the Western desert to bury what they call “Chemical Materials” and in some instances they call it “Chemical Waste Materials”. Saddam himself was directly involved in this issue according to the documents and he gave high priority orders for his top officials to come up with these burial sites. Some may say that these were only “chemical waste burial sites” however I find it is very odd that the Iraqis never thought about locations to bury their chemical waste until the year 1999! Why suddenly the Iraqis were so interested in finding burial sites for their chemical products and why Saddam himself was giving high priority orders for such a trivial matter if in fact the sites were only to bury Chemical Waste. The oddity of the issue leads to believe that these were no Chemical Waste burial sites but rather the burial sites of much more important materials such as “Chemical Weapons Precursors” and other equipments related to the production of “Chemical Weapons”.
Many of us remember the reporting about satellite pictures prior to the Iraq war that showed a convoy of suspect trucks that can be carrying Chemical Weapons moving toward the West and it was thought by many analysts that they were going to Syria. However in our opinion these trucks were going to the remote areas of the Anbar province in Western Iraq to bury the “Chemical Weapons Precursors” and the equipments required to make it.
The documents mentioned by name the few towns and one district in the Anbar province where Saddam regime wanted the Chemical materials burial sites. However we will not mention these documents or the name of the towns in a public forum for security concerns.
Thank you very much my FRiend Chris. You did an excellent job in the video.
You da MAN, Jveritas!
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Unfortunately the Iraq Survey Group that was tasked to find Saddam WMD after the War were trying to answer “Where are the WMD?” and went on to search for the final Chemical Weapons stock piles in suspected ammunition sites but they find nothing. The approach should have been to search for the “Precursors for Chemical Weapons” and these Precursors would not be hidden in suspected ammunitions sites because Saddam regime knew full well that those are the first places to be search.
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I think Kenneth Timmerman needs to see this.
Please send it to him if you have his contacts. Thank you.
Ping for later when I will have more time.
Thank You Joseph
Thank you very much Joseph & Chris. BTTT!
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Thank you both, for all your hard work,
patriotism and incredible devotion to and
diligence on this issue. God bless
you. One day, the world will know.
Thank you very much friends, let the truth be spoken and revealed. Please spread it as much as you can. Thank you.
Good Job with the video.
The masses would likely be more inclined to pay attention to a video presentation than sifting through documents.
For those masses who may become interested after viewing the video, perhaps a link to your site where the documents can be view for further study.
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Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the ping! BTTT!!
this can’t be true. The Democrats have already told us more than once that Bush lied and misled us into war.
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The surge is working to dismantle AQ, and the LSM ignores that too.
God Bless out brave men and women and especially those and their families who have paid the ultimate price and those wounded.
You are welcome and Amen to your post.
Thats exactly it. If more people knew about the content discovered by these translated documents from the Docex project and the questions they raised maybe this program might still be up and going.
Its sad we had the talent of people like our own FReeper Jveritas that worked hard translating only to have this project cut short. We could have discovered a lot more.
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We were looking for something easy to the ear but at the same time a little abstract. Vangelis seemed to be a good compromise.
I was more concerned about my voice being off due to sinus problems.
You seem to not understand the facts, Saddam never poisoned anyone with nerve gas, he didn’t and never was a threat to the USA, he was just this benovlent Dictator that told hugh lies to the world so we would fear him, and O’ that assasination attempt on daddy Bush was just a misunderstanding.
The truth is the truth like it or not so just move on and stop flogging the dead horse, you look foolish.
I sent an email to Doctor Mylroie with the link.
I’m sorry I wasn’t more active on this thread early today. I worked a double shift yesterday and overnight before posting the video.
Chris, you have done an excellent job already my FRiend.
More than once? They've never said or insinuated this! Have they?
Question is are we flogging the dead horse or are we trying to educate those like the let-wing media with horse blinders on?
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“For those masses who may become interested after viewing the video, perhaps a link to your site where the documents can be view for further study.”
Jveritas
April15bendovr
Here we go with all Bush lied crap as replies
Youtube Liberals and Ron Paul idiots.
Yes I saw the stupid comment on the video :)
Asking them to do a compare and contrast of all info provided its like telling them their their leg needs to be amputated with a butter knife.
Ping.
Thanks for your great Pit Bull approach to this.
WMD or no WMD we did the right thing. Read on....
In November when I was putting Halloween decorations back in the attic I found a newspaper I saved from long ago that I forgot all about.
Tacoma News Tribune
December 20, 1998
Headline: CLINTON IMPEACHED
If that wasn’t amusing enough to read again after all these years, now with his wife running, I notice a story at the bottom on the very same front page that must be read:
U.S. and Britain halt airstrikes against Iraq
Sub-headline, Citing ‘significant damage’, CLINTON SAYS SADDAM MUST BE OUSTED TO AVOID FUTURE THREATS.
BAGHDAD, Iraq – President Clinton ended the air campaign against Iraq on Saturday saying: “I’m confident we have achieved our mission.” Yet despite suffering more than 400 punishing bomb and missile strikes over four nights, Saddam Hussein’s government remained defiant and said it would bar any return of U.N. arms inspectors to the country.
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In blunt language, Clinton called for the ouster of the Iraqi leader. “So long as Saddam remains in power, he will remain a threat to his people, his region and the World.” Clinton said.
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So lets look at just how much of a “continued threat” Saddam really was AFTER Clinton made the above statement. This is just a partial list of the times Iraq fired at American and British aircraft patrolling the Northern No Fly Zone during Operation Northern Watch. Most of the data was not available, like the entire year of 2000. The list also does not include other violations, such as locking air defense radar onto Coalition aircraft, nor does it include the violations in the Southern No Fly Zone, which had an even longer list of violations and firings than in the North. If all the violations were included, the list would be much much much longer.
Sooooooo with all of these documented attacks on our aircraft patrolling the Northern No-Fly Zone AFTER Clinton said “Saddam must be ousted”, why is Bush and Cheney being persecuted for doing just that?
Iraqi Firings : Since 2000, Iraqi forces have fired on U.S. and British pilots 1,600 times. In 2002, Iraqi forces fired on U.S. and British pilots 406 times. Since September 18, just hours after Saddam promised to “allow the return of the United Nations inspectors without conditions” and expressed his desire “to remove any doubts that Iraq still possesses weapons of mass destruction,” Iraqi forces have fired on U.S. and British pilots 67 times.
Again, this is only a Partial list. I also highlighted other important events……
20 Dec 1998 President Bill Clinton says Saddam must be ousted.
28 Dec 1998 Coalition aircraft were attacked by Iraqi surface-to-air missiles
13 Jan 1999 SAM systems track and fire on coalition aircraft
25 Jan 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to surface to air missile launch
28 Jan 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
11 Feb 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
12 Feb 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
15 Feb 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
1 Mar 1999 Iraq fires anti-aircraft artillery at coalition aircraft
6 Mar 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
14 Mar 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
25 May 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
12 Oct 2000 USS COLE ATTACKED
Year 2000 I’m missing details for the year 2000 attacks on coalition aircraft. It was by far the worse year with over 1000 attacks on our aircraft. See the Iraqi Firings note above.
20 Jan 2001 BUSH INAUGURATION
24 Jan 2001 Iraqi missiles and AAA fired on ONW aircraft
12 Feb 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
22 Feb 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
6 Apr 2001 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft
30 Apr 2001 AAA fired at ONW aircraft
23 May 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
14 June 2001 ONW aircraft respond to targeting radar and AAA
7 Aug 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
27 Aug 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon, coalition responds
4 Sep 2001 Iraqi fire AAA at and radar targets ONW aircraft
11 Sep 2001 AMERICA ATTACKED
7 Oct 2001 WAR IN AFGHANISTAN BIGINS.
4 Feb 2002 Iraqi fires AAA at ONW aircraft
28 Feb 2002 ONW aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
1 May 2002 Iraq fires AAA at Northern Watch Aircraft
22 May 2002 Iraqi air defenses again fired upon Coalition aircraft
28 May 2002 ONW aircraft fired upon, coalition responds
19 June 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft, coalition responds
26 June 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft, coalition responds
4 July 2002 ONW aircraft threatened, coalition responds
22 Oct 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft
30 Oct 2002 ONW aircraft defend against Iraqi anti-aircraft threat
17 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
18 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
28 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
2 Dec 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
4 Dec 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
31 Jan 2003 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft
22 May 2003 IRAQ WAR BEGINS – AMERICA HAS HAD ENOUGH
Information Source
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/northern_watch-1998.htm
Agree 100%.
You are welcome :)
Thank you for the ping and your support.
You bet.
In due time gentlemen. In due time. Seeds of truth, tend to even on the rockiest and barren ground sprout truth in due time.
I agree and well said
Joseph the video is now up on Liveleak with a better upload. I spoke to the IT people at Apple today and followed their instructions. It looks great.
The video has already received 1 thousand hits and it was only posted hours ago.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d0c_1203104853
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