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There's Nothing Conservative Or Principled About Helping A Democrat Beat John McCain In November
TownHall.com ^ | February 8, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/08/2008 11:15:39 AM PST by 84rules

There is NOTHING conservative about working with the Democratic nominee against most of your fellow conservatives in order to grow government, socialize medicine, lose the war in Iraq, tilt the Supreme Court to the Left, and make Roe v. Wade the permanent law of the land. If you are conservative and vote for the Democratic nominee or even just refuse to vote for McCain, who is by any and every objective standard, considerably more conservative than either of them, let me tell you what you are NOT doing,

* You are NOT doing the logical thing. When faced with a choice between a moderate who holds some conservative positions and some non-conservative positions and a liberal who holds no conservative positions, the logical decision is to take the moderate. After all, half a loaf is better than none.

* You are NOT helping conservatism or your fellow conservatives. To the contrary, you are helping liberals defeat conservative ideas. Isn't that what conservatives are saying that they're furious at McCain over? Well, who's less of a conservative: John McCain, who, if he were in the White House, would help conservatives win some battles and would help liberals win others or the conservatives who want to help a Democrat get into the office who will go against conservative ideas every time?

* You are NOT looking out for the best interests of the country. If you believe winning in Iraq is better than losing, if you believe balancing the budget is better than higher deficit spending, if you believe that having a Supreme Court that is tilted to the right is better than having a Supreme Court tilted to the left, and if you believe that Roe v. Wade is leading to the immoral murder of millions of children -- and the overwhelming majority of people reading this column certainly believe all those things -- then you are certainly not putting the good of the country first if you oppose John McCain in November.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; conservative; coulter; elections; juanmccain; mccain; mcmexico; mcstain
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Alot of anger and hate has been directed at John McCain since yesterday. But we need to step back and look at the whole picture, not just a little part of it.

We also need to understand that we are responsible for this together, not just one wing or faction of the GOP. I cast my support for Tom Tancredo last year because I believed he had the best ideas. When I made my choice public, I was rebuked with words like: "He's not as electable as Guiliani or McCain." Well, now we have someone who is "electable" and he is not to our liking? Why?

I'm sure that if asked questions like "Did you donate money to your candidate?" or "Did you do volunteer work for your candidate?" or "Did you try to get your candidate's message out to the public?" most of us would respond "yes," even if we only forwarded one mass email from our candidate in late December.

And since most of us would answer "yes" we need to ask, would it make sense to start doing things to help the Dem candidate get elected in November?

John Hawkins makes some good points in his column.

Flame me if you like, but it won't change the current state of things.

1 posted on 02/08/2008 11:15:45 AM PST by 84rules
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To: 84rules

Sorry, No vote for John “Traitor to the Conservative Cause” McAmnesty!


2 posted on 02/08/2008 11:18:25 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 84rules

Truer words never spoken. Nor wiser.

Time for all Freepers to rally around McCain and go on to victory in November.


3 posted on 02/08/2008 11:18:41 AM PST by Poundstone
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To: 84rules

No, 84rules, you are right on. We cannot allow the Hildebeast or Osama Obama to take the presidency. We must take back the Senate and the House as well. I was for Duncan Hunter and Tom was my second choice BTW.


4 posted on 02/08/2008 11:18:58 AM PST by hawkboy
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To: 84rules
McKeating can do whatever he wants.

He doesn't need me.

5 posted on 02/08/2008 11:18:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: 84rules

There is also nothing Conservative or principled about helping him win either.

Everyone needs to remember that the House and Senate have become even more important now.


6 posted on 02/08/2008 11:19:10 AM PST by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: 84rules

Oh, and by the way, quit using the tactics of the Left to describe disagreement on principles as Hate.


7 posted on 02/08/2008 11:19:22 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 84rules

Nothing like the anger and hate being directed at conservatives who don’t support McCain.


8 posted on 02/08/2008 11:19:22 AM PST by DManA
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To: 84rules
Making John McCain president would change the Republican Party. Suddenly, amnesty would be cool, emryonic stem cell research would be cool, Global Warming would be cool, and tax cuts would be bad.

There's nothing Conservative about helping the GOP transition over to the Left.

10 posted on 02/08/2008 11:21:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: 84rules

Basically....I agree with this. I don’t much care for McCain, but I would not want to see Obama and surely not Hillary in the Presidents office. When McCain is President, control Congress. Get the right people in Congress and you have a winning situation for this country, and my concern is for this country..........not for someone that wants to be Queen of the US. Hillary must be pushed back into the closet.


11 posted on 02/08/2008 11:21:13 AM PST by RC2
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To: 84rules

A crazy RINO, Satan and a sweet talking Commie.

I would pick the crazy RINO.

It’s a simple question of the lesser evil.


12 posted on 02/08/2008 11:21:23 AM PST by demecleze
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To: 84rules

The alternative is unthinkable......

Go McCain!!

Militant


13 posted on 02/08/2008 11:22:09 AM PST by militant2 ("From time to time, the tree of Liberty must be nourished with the blood of tyrants!")
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To: 84rules

and what if mCCain moves back to the right, loses a lot of his leftie and indy suppport, a lot of conservatives do suck it up and vote for him, and he still loses.

what then?

who will we fight then, amongst ourselves like the 20006 aftermath, or the winner, be it either hil or obama?

nothing personal Marine, but have so many lost the ability to realize we face a multi-faced or should I say two faced offering here.. and that any way we cut it, we will be fighting whoever wins, the question , is who? and who will have already shown their resolve to roll over just for the sake of “winning”.


14 posted on 02/08/2008 11:22:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: 84rules
conservatives in order to grow government, socialize medicine, lose the war in Iraq, tilt the Supreme Court to the Left, and make Roe v. Wade the permanent law of the land.

McCain will also do those things. All of them. If he becomes Prez

15 posted on 02/08/2008 11:22:20 AM PST by GeronL (or maybe I just read too much)
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To: demecleze

Sorry, not playing the “Lessor of Two Evils” game anymore.

Learned my lesson with Arnold.

And everyone can clearly see the result of that mistake.


16 posted on 02/08/2008 11:22:25 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 84rules

“There’s Nothing Conservative Or Principled About Helping A Democrat In November”

That is clearly a true statement.

The question of whether it is conservative or principled to help John McCain is a more nuanced issue.


17 posted on 02/08/2008 11:22:28 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: ClearCase_guy

Spoken like a true Democrat.


18 posted on 02/08/2008 11:22:50 AM PST by RC2
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To: 84rules

Nominating John McCain is supporting the Democrat candidate for President. You made your bed, GOP. You can sleep in it.


19 posted on 02/08/2008 11:23:01 AM PST by Spiff
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To: 84rules

Many voters’ WHOLE loaf is illegal immigration. He can’t get the border shut no matter what he says with a Dem majority, so they’d rather a Dem president take that heat.


20 posted on 02/08/2008 11:23:01 AM PST by Melinda
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