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1 posted on 02/08/2008 5:09:09 PM PST by newbie2008
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To: newbie2008

Rush is like Dick Morris in that he makes so many different predictions that he is guaranteed to be right no matter what happens.


2 posted on 02/08/2008 5:11:14 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: newbie2008

Failure to support Fred Thompson in the primary equals McCain ‘08.


3 posted on 02/08/2008 5:11:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: newbie2008

Letting ten states pick the nominee instead of 50 gets you McCain ‘08. I don’t get to vote until May. National primary day now.


5 posted on 02/08/2008 5:14:19 PM PST by mysterio
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To: newbie2008

It’s really going to be painful to watch people we respect fall in behind McCain this year.

It’s probably a good year to just turn off the tube and the internet and find something else to do.


6 posted on 02/08/2008 5:14:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: newbie2008
Poor Rush has gone from supporting Rudy to supporting Romney to supporting McCain.

He must be getting dizzy.

12 posted on 02/08/2008 5:22:15 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: newbie2008

Rush is one the lessor of two evil guys that brought us to where we are today.


13 posted on 02/08/2008 5:26:15 PM PST by Revel
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To: newbie2008

Well, Rush was right on this one, mainly because the Huckabee voters were the same ones who stayed home in 2006 our of pique over feelings of being ignored. Remember how the PA voters turned on Santorum because he endorsed Specter, at the behest of the president? Santorum was one of our best conservatives, but they turned on him because of one lousy mistake.


17 posted on 02/08/2008 5:31:20 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: newbie2008
Sitting Out '06 Equals McCain '08
I disagree. Electing another Bush results a McCain 08
32 posted on 02/08/2008 6:31:08 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: newbie2008

BTTT


47 posted on 02/08/2008 7:17:28 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: newbie2008

Was this archive from before or after Rush got off dope?


58 posted on 02/08/2008 8:20:30 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Kevmo
Just to marry our discussion to both threads:

Kevmo:

I think you and I got this straightened out earlier, but I'll go ahead and answer here, too.

I never said anyone must support the team if for any reason they don't feel they should. It's not relevant to my point to keep pointing out that people who are bailing on the team think they have a good reason to do so.

My point, which I think you agree with to some extent, is that, regardless of what justifies quitting, it's still a gamble for the individual and the country. That's because, just like in football, if some players quit, the team still has to play the game. So it may try to get the players back, it may look for new players, but whatever it does it tries to find a way to win with what it's got.

Interestingly, this thread (link below) about something Rush said illustrates my point perfectly.

Rush made my point a year ago:

RUSH ARCHIVES: This notion that it doesn't matter who wins because the Democrats aren't going to have a big enough majority? That's going to lead to another thing that I will share with you. It's going to lead to the nomination of John McCain for the Republican presidential candidacy. In two years, you same people who will have helped bring about an ascension to power by the Democrats, are going to be so angry -- you're going to be so fed up -- over what they have tried to do, over the things they will maybe have accomplished, that you are going to demand power back, and you will accept anybody that you think has a chance of winning it. And right now, that looks like McCain, above anybody else -- who, I must tell you, is not a conservative. And so what are you probably going to end up doing? You're going to be so frustrated by 2008, and the thought of Hillary Clinton becoming president so obnoxious, so abhorrent; that in 2008 you will flush your precious principles down the drain and elect a Republican, precisely the kind of Republican you think you're running against now -- or you will at least nominate one. Who knows how that election will go? So the very principle that you are fighting here, if you succeed, you will be given a candidate who fits the very thing you're angry about: somebody who's not conservative enough but probably has the best chance of winning.

When we began this conversation, that's what I was addressing: WHY McCain is the nominee. It's not because of anti-Christian bigotry.

It's because conservatives bailed on the party in 2006 and now they're saying they are going to bail again. It's because conservatives barely voted for the more conservatives candidates in the primaries when they had every opportunity to do so.

So the party, which must has a nominee, and which exists for the purpose of winning elections, has no choice (from their point of view) but to try to find a way to win with what they got. And McCain has always said he's the man to bring in Independents and Reagan Democrats---IOW, he's the man who can provide some replacement players so the party can try to win this thing.

As Rush said:

In two years, you same people who will have helped bring about an ascension to power by the Democrats, are going to be so angry -- you're going to be so fed up -- over what they have tried to do, over the things they will maybe have accomplished, that you are going to demand power back, and you will accept anybody that you think has a chance of winning it.

This is WHY McCain is the nominee. Political parties exist to win. When the conservative way doesn't deliver, then the party (meaning: the majority of people voting in the primaries and lending support to candidates) does something else. That's all.

Rush goes on to make a point about voting for congresscritters, not president. But his analysis (and my analogy) is certainly something to think about.

Again, quitting may be justified, but the risk that the team will truly move on without those who quit (which would not be good for the country, IMHO) is real. That's all. Whether it's the coach or the players to blame, that's all.

68 posted on 02/09/2008 12:09:16 AM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: newbie2008; DivaDelMar
Rush was right then. Rush is right now. I'm still voting for McCain.

When we put our faith in a man -- or woman -- to do what's right for us we we always be disappointed.

When we seek to advance an agenda, however, we will always be successful.

McCain won't setback the conservative agenda anywhere close to what Hillary. So he is getting my full support

Now, if the Dems gain in Congress -- as Rush expects -- and McCain works with them -- as Rush expects -- the economy will tank, badly. Will Republicans get blamed? McCain will. The Dems will. Conservatives won't.

For the conservatives to advance, we have to have an agenda, articulate it and advance it.

71 posted on 02/09/2008 6:38:22 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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