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Sorry to disagree with some here. I have been a Republican and a Conservative since childhood. I can't see running away from the Party because I disagree with them. You can say that you didn't leave the party ... the party left you. Using Ronald Reagan's words if you like. The party has been moving because we as conservatives, a minority in any party, have not fully engaged at all times to help steer the course.

In doing so we are now left with a liberal republican as a standard bearer. Sorry to all Huckabees's supporters but his populist ways will lead to the exact same end as McCain and the Dems. Romney wasn't perfect but he was a moderate, not liberal, and would keep us from drifting farther to the left. His fiscal and national security stance on the issues gave the conservative hope. We missed a chance.

Now principled dyed in the wool conservatives looking for the perfect candidate have given us all a choice: 1) work hard within the party to bring it back on course or 2) bend over and await the socialist stick.

A new party is not the choice. As I said we are a minority and will be just another one in the sea of Libertarian Party, Constitutional Party, Green Party, and so many others that pop up from time to time on one issue or disagreement ... and then fade away.

1 posted on 02/10/2008 8:53:25 AM PST by K-oneTexas
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There’s Nothing Conservative or Principled John McCain


2 posted on 02/10/2008 8:54:18 AM PST by Grunthor (Juan McAmnesty - The End of America; Comitted to Mexico and 100 *&**& years!!??)
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In other words, stop complaining and swallow this welfare state poison?


3 posted on 02/10/2008 8:56:13 AM PST by oblomov (Obama is so inspirational. He inspires me to offshore assets & go to as many gun shows as I can.)
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--—”If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff”—Ronald Reagan--

--I'm gonna post this several times a day for a long time, I suspect---

6 posted on 02/10/2008 8:58:10 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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And the party hacks continue their attempt at browbeating conservatives into supporting a liberal.

What leverage do conservatives have if the GOP knows they will support any nominee, no matter how repugnant?

10 posted on 02/10/2008 9:00:47 AM PST by NittanyLion
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Doing ANYTHING to assist Hillary Clinton in securing power over the government and military is completely asinine.


12 posted on 02/10/2008 9:00:56 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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Sorry, if John McCain gets beat by Hillary or Obama in November, he won’t have anyone to blame but himself. I wish you people would stop lecturing us about being loyal to the party no matter who the candidate is. If you want to sell out, go right ahead, but I refuse to compromise my values any more than I have over the years, especially for the likes of John McCain. Keep lowering the bar and you’ll eventually end up having a candidate like Kucinich to vote for. In my opinion, It’s no different than the way the educational system has lowered its required level of achievement for students, and how other institutions and agencies have lowered their qualifications to achieve specific quotas.


15 posted on 02/10/2008 9:02:03 AM PST by mass55th
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I can not vote for a man I do not trust.


16 posted on 02/10/2008 9:02:04 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming mMore styore liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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At this point, it’s about vengeance. They cut out our tongues, and now they will pay.

Besides, McCain is just another Democrat regardless of his actual party registration, so helping him defeat a different one gains us nothing. Actually, it’s worse, since then we become the author of the disaster he will surely bring.


17 posted on 02/10/2008 9:02:06 AM PST by FR Class of 1998 (I will never vote directly against my own vital interests)
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The "Republican Party"?


It's tired, old, and broken.


Time to take that dog to the vet.

18 posted on 02/10/2008 9:02:28 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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I agree with you fully. Here we (rightly) mock and despise the Democrats for their defeatism and cut'n'run mentality when dealing with our external enemies, yet so many here are ready to give up and stick the head in the sand when dealing with the Democrat take-over of America. Defeatism and lethargy are neither American nor Conservative principles. We should concetrate our efforts in supporting real conservatives for Congress and on local/state level. By this we can create a strong conservative counterbalance. McCain's worst excesses can be countered by a conservative Congress. Don't hand the power for any reason to the Democrats... vote the non-conservative McCain for President (if he is the candidate. We can still go for brokered convention in the primaries!) and real conservatives for Congress.
19 posted on 02/10/2008 9:02:51 AM PST by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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McCain has already said that he doesn’t need the Conservative vote. And he once said that Hillary would make a good President. Let him fend for himself.


20 posted on 02/10/2008 9:03:00 AM PST by So Circumstanced
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"What would Reagan do"

His 11th commandment comes to mind:

"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

23 posted on 02/10/2008 9:03:53 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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I’m going to hold my nose and vote for McCain if he’s the candidate. As Newt Gingrich said the other day, “Who do want for POTUS, someone you disagree with 20% of the time or someone you disagree with 90% of the time.”

Clinton or Obama would be disastrous for this country as they would take us further and further down the road to socialism by the time their term ended.


25 posted on 02/10/2008 9:04:14 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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We aren’t running away from the party, the party left us. The religious right went left and the good old boys decided that it was more pragmatic to stay with one of their own.


27 posted on 02/10/2008 9:05:36 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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Ahem to this article! If the people on this site ‘sit it out’ who will be to blame when the taxes go up, when the troops are pulled out of the middle east and it goes to he!! in a hand basket, when the gitmo detainees are brought into this country and given pony tailed jackass lawyers to get them off...who???? Every single person who ‘sat it out’ will be to blame. Think past your anger, think to the security of this nation, not your selfish ideals that came come with the next president


29 posted on 02/10/2008 9:07:01 AM PST by Jewels1091
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I have to agree. I am not a McCain supporter, but I am a GOP supporter. Frankly we made our bed by allowing early Primaries in Liberal leaning states. This is going to get us Liberal Conservatives. Its a simple one to one relationship. So this is what we have, and for DAMN sure it beats Hitlery or Obama.

There is little choice in the matter, either vote for the GOP candidate and we are spared the liberal horrors that are Clinton/Obama, or don’t vote and just hand them the keys.

That’s what IS folks. Hold your nose and do what needs to be done. The alternative is NOT worth contemplating.

30 posted on 02/10/2008 9:07:57 AM PST by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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I would rather have someone in the White House with the wrong principles (Hitlery) than someone devoid of any (McCain).

Hitlery could do a lot less damage.

32 posted on 02/10/2008 9:08:23 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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"True" Conservatives supposedly stayed home during the 2006 election and look at the result ...


Now they want to complete the "trifecta" by adding ...

36 posted on 02/10/2008 9:09:03 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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McCain helps Democrats against us all the time, he even said Hillary and Kerry would make good Presidents, ie, good CICs.

This has nothing to do with principles or purity as a conservative, it has to do with political character, and who he has sided with, who he has gone against for 8 years running.

He says he will not leave Iraq, but I’m not so sure, giving his stance with the Dims on Gitmo, interrogations, and claiming we have wasted troops lives.

37 posted on 02/10/2008 9:09:24 AM PST by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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John Hawkins can cry me a river. He should remember the Whigs... that’s where the republican party is going to be in 10 years.


41 posted on 02/10/2008 9:10:23 AM PST by ketsu
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