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Businesses need immigrant workers but extremists 'are stirring the pots of hatred'
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 02/10/2008 07:06:28 AM MST | Tom Harvey

Posted on 02/10/2008 9:20:15 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

A little over a year after an immigration raid on the Swift & Co. meatpacking plant in Hyrum, businesses across a wide swath of Utah's economy find themselves in a political limbo.

On the one hand, they want a legal immigrant work force in order to prosper or even to survive. On the other, they have been steamrolled by an opposition that crushed the recent proposal in Congress to reform the nation's immigration laws.

The federal raids took out about 10 percent of Swift's work force in Utah and five other states in December 2006. If that were a there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I moment for other Utah businesses, the reality is that the nation's wink-wink system of employing illegal workers has changed little since then.

Indeed, that was unscored Thursday when immigration agents raided Universal Industrial Sales, Inc., in Lindon, and detained 50 undocumented workers, charged the metal fabrication business with haboring illegal aliens and arrested its human resources manager.

In the Swift case, court records show that the company dutifully filled out required forms known as I-9s when hiring employees. The company also had used a federal program under development called Basic Pilot, which was meant to help identify the illegal use of Social Security numbers. Workers were required to present a Social Security card and another form of government-issued ID with a matching photo. Beyond that, Swift was legally required only to keep the information in its files.

Records show that undocumented Swift workers simply purchased SSNs and IDs on the street for about $800, which easily got them work.

JBS Swift & Co., the new name of the company bought by the Brazilian meatpacker JBS S.A. in July, turned down several requests for interviews.

But experts argue that a meatpacking company the size of Swift had to have known whether it hired workers without proper documents.

"It stretches credulity to state they had no idea they had these workers," said Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C. think tank.

For businesses such as construction, landscaping, agriculture, hospitality, meat processing and food services, hiring immigrants has become a matter of course. But with strenuous opposition to "amnesty" for the 12 million undocumented people already in the U.S. (an estimated 100,000 in Utah) stalling federal immigration reform or other reforms that might create a guest-worker program, Swift's labor problems are now widely shared by others.

"It's now much bigger than a meat-processing issue," said James Mintert, professor of agriculture economics at Kansas State University.

And if the Swift raids exposed the meatpacking industry's practice of hiring low-wage immigrants who used stolen or fake IDs to get jobs they could not have gotten legally, the aftermath also has raised plenty of questions about immigrant labor in Utah - and there appear to be few answers. Normally, business interests in Utah and nationally are politically powerful, but in the case of immigration-reform legislation they backed in Congress this year, they've found themselves overwhelmed. Utah's senators received perhaps 100 calls in opposition for every 10 in favor of the immigration-reform bill that failed to pass the Senate in June, said Clark Ivory, CEO of Ivory Homes, the state's largest home builder.

"The reason that immigration reform has failed is that extreme elements are stirring the pots of hatred. [They] are anti-Hispanic, very vocal and very vindictive with these politicians," Ivory said. "A moderate, thoughtful and quiet voice that comes from business is not heard over that extreme voice that comes from the far right wing."

The business community wants to abide by the law, and it wants the nation to control its borders, he said. But that community also wants reform that provides an adequate skilled and unskilled work force, which has been a constant challenge in recent years.

In the past two decades, Utah's economy has gone through changes that have created a greater need for more low-skilled workers than a native-born population could or would want to fill, said Pamela Perlich of the Bureau of Economic and Business Research at the University of Utah.

During that span, Utah saw a huge boom in commercial and residential construction - projects such as the LDS Church conference center, facilities for the 2002 Winter Olympics and the rebuilding of Interstate 15 and construction of TRAX light rail.

In addition, a demographic shift to a higher percentage of workers with four-year college degrees (10.2 percent in 1960, compared with 26.1 percent in 2000) meant more Utah-born workers landed higher-paying jobs.

"As more of our native-born population moves up the ladder, we still continue to have demand for people in tortilla factories or meatpacking plants or people to clean buildings or make beds in hotels," Perlich argues.

But there are plenty of people inside and outside the business world who don't buy that argument. Robert Wren, for one, thinks something more sinister is in play.

Wren is chairman of UFIRE, a Utah group advocating enforcement of the nation's existing immigration laws, and although he agrees that "business needs a work force," he argues that "what has happened is that having an illegal immigrant work force allows them to get a cheaper employee.

"They aren't willing to pay what the job should be paying to get an American to do it," he said. "And by hiring more and more illegal immigrants, we basically depress the wage rates in America."

Ivory and Perlich counter that it's not that simple and that there is no way to fill available jobs without resorting to immigrant labor. Economists, too, generally agree that the nation as a whole has benefitted from immigrant labor - but disagree on how much native-born, low-skilled workers who directly compete with immigrants have been hurt economically by the influx.

Regardless of who's right, Utah businesses have been lobbying Congress for reforms that would expand the number of visas available for workers, not only those in entry-level jobs but also those in highly skilled positions, such as the high-tech sector.

"Without effective immigration reform, there's going to be a huge shortage of labor for the construction industry," said Scott Parson, president of Staker & Parson Cos., a Salt Lake City sand and gravel, concrete and road construction company. He has been involved in the immigration question on behalf of the Salt Lake Chamber.

Ivory and others worry that with federal legislation stalled and a new presidential administration still a year away, the Utah Legislature might step into the void the way its counterparts have in a few other states, where laws against hiring illegal workers have been tightened and immigrants' use of public services has been restricted.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; cheaplabor; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Records show that undocumented Swift workers simply purchased SSNs and IDs on the street for about $800, which easily got them work.

Thus screwing the good folks from whom these were stolen...

41 posted on 02/10/2008 9:47:12 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Greedy American businessmen are fast destroying my belief in capitalism as practised currently in the US. It seems that more and more businesses are taking the take ‘easy’ way of bribing elected officials and relying on de-facto slave labor rather investing and innovating. The short-sighteness and arrogance of some business leaders is simply unbelievable. Do they really think they will able to avoid the predictable consequences of the current demographic shifts in the US?


42 posted on 02/10/2008 9:47:21 AM PST by Aikonaa
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To: oldbill
Today’s slave traders force their serfs to fend for themselves, and pass on the costs to the taxpayers. Today’s Uncle Tom Cabins would be charging the residents $400/month rent.
Not to defend slavery, but slave owners were quite prescient about this. They said "we own our capital, you(northern industrial abolitionists) just rent it."
43 posted on 02/10/2008 9:47:44 AM PST by ketsu
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To: ARE SOLE
Business’s need taxpayers to support their low wage slaves.

What low wage slaves? Excuse me, but they make twice what this US citizen makes.

44 posted on 02/10/2008 9:47:52 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The need for cheap labor no more justifies illegal immigration today than it did slavery in the past.


45 posted on 02/10/2008 9:48:22 AM PST by umgud
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I’m a hater. I hate people who knowingly break our laws and then have the audacity to tell us that it’s for our own good.


46 posted on 02/10/2008 9:50:13 AM PST by TADSLOS (Republican conservatives are the Dhimmis of the GOP)
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To: oblomov
At least a lot of the illegals are leaving due to a lack of jobs.

Not around DC they aren't. Gee, for some reason, they'd rather be unemployed and hanging out at the liquor stores in the US than unemployed in whatever manure pile of a country they came from.

47 posted on 02/10/2008 9:51:56 AM PST by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: DoughtyOne
In the past two decades, Utah's economy has gone through changes that have created a greater need for more low-skilled workers than a native-born population could or would want to fill, said Pamela Perlich of the Bureau of Economic and Business Research at the University of Utah.

Pam must've been one of the college students who got a full-ride from mommy and daddy. As one of the unwashed masses that worked while in college, I can tell you that I and a lot of fellow students weren't above working at a cheese factory, an industrial plant cutting plastic parts, refurbishing valves that come in from the oil rigs, and two summers on a highway construction crew (I-80, southwestern Wyoming). Care to tell me more about jobs Americans won't do?

Suck it, Pam. There's a lot of college students that are barely making it because the Mexicans are flooding the job market.

48 posted on 02/10/2008 9:55:34 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberals: can't live with them, can't ship them to Canada.)
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To: Aikonaa
Greedy American businessmen are fast destroying my belief in capitalism as practised currently in the US. It seems that more and more businesses are taking the take ‘easy’ way of bribing elected officials and relying on de-facto slave labor rather investing and innovating. The short-sighteness and arrogance of some business leaders is simply unbelievable. Do they really think they will able to avoid the predictable consequences of the current demographic shifts in the US?
American business has always been this way. What's happened is that technology and productivity gains have gotten to the point where they can shaft workers in ways that companies could only dream of in the 60's.

Outsource skilled jobs, insource the unskilled ones. The effect is that it hollows out the middle of the economy. The winners win big(i.e. hedge fund managers) the losers lose big(i.e. middle class jobs, accountants, programmers, call center workers, etc...). You're left with a third world economy.
49 posted on 02/10/2008 9:57:07 AM PST by ketsu
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To: dalereed

Give that guy a cigar! Bingo!


50 posted on 02/10/2008 9:58:57 AM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Regulator
Clearly, in the interim, they have decided that the taxpayers that they take money from are just too damn expensive to employ.

Things may get interesting if the current downturn in the economy actually turns into a severe recession. The taxpayers may actually decide to stick it to these business-parasites.

51 posted on 02/10/2008 9:59:38 AM PST by Aikonaa
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Well sign me up as a racist xenophobe too. I had a friend that went to an RNC meeting in Salt Lake City a couple of years ago and they were all for selling out to the illegals on this same line of BS. Needless to say he is no longer a member of the Republican Party.


52 posted on 02/10/2008 10:00:09 AM PST by KC-10A BOOMER (Breakaway, Breakaway, Breakaway!!!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Well, then, put me down under the irrational hater column...

Let’s toss this out... The employers in many industries have need for entry level and less skilled position workers. There are literally millions of folks on welfare, sucking the life blood out of an economic system that should be the envy of the entire world. Seems to me we need to get that human resource into those jobs...kinda like bussing school kids, only on an interstate scale.

You say some would not like it? Then let them get jobs closer to their current digs. Either way, get off the dole. We’re tired of paying your way. We’re tired of watching you suck up resources because you think it’s your ‘right’.

This is fixable.


53 posted on 02/10/2008 10:00:54 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: dalereed

BTW, folks should realize we’re redistributing wealth every April 15th, as those who make less get refunds on monies they never paid in. It’s truly amazing what this nation has turned into while we continute do vote for the lesser of two evils.

End welfare today. If you don’t work, let the family take care of you if they are so inclined.


54 posted on 02/10/2008 10:01:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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55 posted on 02/10/2008 10:02:26 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: upchuck
Utah's senators received perhaps 100 calls in opposition for every 10 in favor of the immigration-reform bill that failed to pass the Senate in June

Right on, we can make a difference.

BTW, I find it quite ironic that liberals are now whoring themselves for illegal profit-driven business operations. Who's the discriminating big-whitey now? They've now become everything they supposedly hate.

56 posted on 02/10/2008 10:03:21 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberals: can't live with them, can't ship them to Canada.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Folks said Bill would also. I don’t like the prospect of it, but it’s time the Republican part realized that it cannot thumb it’s nose in the face of conservatives.

Let it try to win an election without us. Let’s see how that flies. When it realizes that it’s future rests on conservative votes, it will change. Or we will replace it.


57 posted on 02/10/2008 10:04:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Oldexpat
The government has stumbled on the solution only they haven’t realized it yet. Every year the DARPA Grand Challenge offers cash prizes to develop increasingly capable robotic vehicles. The first year nobody won, the second year 5 designs drove themselves 132 miles through an extreme obstacle course. The government got a huge amount of engineering work done for a bargain basement price.

We should extend this incredibly winning formula to farming, construction, meat packing, gardening, manufacturing, road construction. The result would be jobs that pay $40/hour servicing the robots, more income taxes paid and fewer social services used, less crime, less pollution, less turning America into Mexico.

Mexicans wages alone cannot fund the baby boomer generation's retirement. We're going to need significant new technologies to boost worker productivity without boosting school, healthcare, prison, and welfare spending.

58 posted on 02/10/2008 10:04:13 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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I guess I'm a bad old Republican extremist then. I think if we put the millions of Americans that are on welfare in these unskilled jobs and did away with welfare we wouldn't need illegal labor, not that I think we actually need illegal labor anyway.
59 posted on 02/10/2008 10:06:47 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Regulator

I have no problem with breaking a union but not with illegal alien labor. Americans willing to work for market wages without the union markup and restrictive work rules are fine with me. Right to work should be the law of the land. Non union American labor is the backbone of this country.

I am puzzled by the report indicating that the employer used the Basic Pilot system. I am not sure how the employer can determine if a worker is an illegal if the system did not flag the documentation. Employers need a simple low-cost tool to determine worker status. Illegals caught using fake documentation need to be fined, jailed, and deported.


60 posted on 02/10/2008 10:07:50 AM PST by businessprofessor
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