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Russian bombers intercepted near US Navy vessel (Tupolev 95 flew 2000ft directly over USS Nimitz)
ynet ^ | 02.12.08 | ynet

Posted on 02/11/2008 3:45:40 PM PST by Flavius

Edited on 02/11/2008 4:36:47 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Russian bomber aircraft approached a US Aircraft carrier in the Pacific on Saturday and were intercepted by American fighter jets, a US Defense official said on Monday...

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Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers

By LOLITA C. BALDOR – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.

A U.S. military official says that one Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

The Saturday incident, which never escalated beyond the flyover, comes amid heightened tensions between the United States and Russia over U.S. plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Such Russian bomber flights were common during the Cold War, but have been rare since.

The bombers were among four Russian Tupolev 95s launched from Ukrainka in the middle of the night, including one that Japanese officials say violated their country's airspace over an uninhabited island south of Tokyo.

U.S. officials tracked and monitored the bombers as two flew south along the Japanese coast, and two others flew farther east, coming closer to the Nimitz and the guided missile cruiser USS Princeton.

As the bombers got about 500 miles out from the U.S. ships, four F/A-18 fighters were launched from the Nimitz, the official said. The fighters intercepted the Russian bombers about 50 miles south of the Nimitz.

At least two U.S. F/A-18 Hornets trailed the bomber as it came in low over the Nimitz twice, while one or two of the other U.S. fighters followed the second bomber as it circled.

The official said there were no verbal communications between the U.S. and the Russians, and the Pentagon has not heard of any protests being filed by the United States. Historically, diplomatic protests were not filed in such incidents because they were so common during the Cold War era.

This is the first time Russian Tupolevs have flown over or interacted with a U.S. carrier since 2004.

In that incident, a Russian Tupolev flew over the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan on Jan. 29, 2004. Since then, however, relations between the U.S. and Russia have deteriorated to their worst point since the Cold War, largely due to the United States' plans to put a radar system in the Czech Republic and 10 missile defense interceptors in Poland.

The U.S. has defended the plan as necessary to protect its European allies from possible attacks by Iran. But the Kremlin has condemned the proposal, saying it would threaten Russia's security.

"We are being forced to take retaliatory steps," said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who also warned that a new arms race is under way.

Japan, meanwhile, filed a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Tokyo after Saturday's incident, saying that one of the Russian bombers crossed into Japanese airspace for three minutes. Russia has denied there was an intrusion.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; bmd; cccp; coldwar2; communism; missiledefense; navair; putin; redairforce; redjihad; russia; securitybreach; sovietunion; usa; ussnimitz; ussr
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To: Squantos
Yep for every action......

...there's a Jackson.
141 posted on 02/11/2008 7:30:31 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: cva66snipe

In the Cold War I’m sure there were unmentioned responses to challenges like a F-14 tailing a Bear with a target lock on the Bear Pilot would be well aware of. The Bears Pilot would have quite a pucker factor because the TOMCAT would not miss and they could not out run them if they did do a hit.
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LOL,,,This type of stuff was common in the ‘60s,,,

Next they come down from the Bering Sea,6 at a time,and

dive near the Sea-Tac ADIZ...Pucker Up...;0)


142 posted on 02/11/2008 7:32:30 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: EGPWS
>Perhaps your "sureness" is debatable however, President Bush has done an impeccable job of maintaining defense of our soveriegnty in time of war and that isn't capable of dispute.<

Slam your head into the nearest wall and reread what you posted! What do you consider the LOST Treaty to be? What is this rumor about OPEN BORDERS? Just a rumor or is it a fact that we have millions of illegal aliens running around our country these days?

When you sober up, explain these incidents to us all.

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WASHINGTON: Six months ago, the U.S. government quietly eased some restrictions on the export of sensitive technologies to China. The new approach was intended to help U.S. companies increase sales of high-technology equipment to China despite tight curbs on sharing technology that might have military applications.

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143 posted on 02/11/2008 7:34:33 PM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: B4Ranch

Nuckin futz.


144 posted on 02/11/2008 7:36:10 PM PST by glock rocks (My feeling is we’ve bowed too far to the idiots. -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: ronnie raygun

Agreed. Anyone that can’t see a difference between McCain and Hill/Obama is either blind or completely stupid.


145 posted on 02/11/2008 7:37:05 PM PST by tatown (Better to Burn Up than Fade Away...)
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To: CRBDeuce

I was reading the other day that the EURForce...the EU rapid response force, was asked to respond to the country of Chad for some nonsense. 8 months later they still are dickering around and it may be 2 more months til they deploy.


146 posted on 02/11/2008 7:44:26 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Flavius

Shoulda deep-sixed ‘em.


147 posted on 02/11/2008 7:44:47 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Putin’s behaviour reminds me of a meeting that John Warner and Rear Admiral Hayward had with Gorshkov and Okun in May 1972. The men were discussing an agreement to determine how close is too close in international waters in peacetime. During the long visit in Moscow, Gorshkov invited Warner, RADM Hayward and their entourage on a trip. The day of the trip, Gorshkov was unable to attend, but he sent an aid to conduct the excursion.

The group of men boarded an aircraft for Leningrad. On arrival in the city, they were led on a tour of museums and sites in the city. Then, the American group was taken to Mamayaev-Kurgan, the promontory overlooking the city. There, the group saw the 305 foot-tall concrete statue of Mother Russia holding aloft a sword. Gorshkov’s aide handed a note to Warner. The note was from Gorshkov and it read: “That sword points to the West because that is where the threat lies. We do not trust you today, nor tomorrow, nor in the distant future.”

148 posted on 02/11/2008 7:50:47 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Flavius
The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

I think it is beyond even caring any more. Just wait 'til the first leak in the obama administration, though.

149 posted on 02/11/2008 7:52:05 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Flavius

Reminds me of the good ‘ol days...


151 posted on 02/11/2008 7:54:54 PM PST by Mariner
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To: yarddog

The Russians aren’t going to initiate a nuclear holocaust. We have already played that game last century. This is simply a little chest beating to sooth their ego. If a Bear was to directly attack one of our carrier groups, it would come at quite a heavy cost to the idiots who do it. Unless of course, it was an all out pre-emptive strike.

Why would they do this? This cat and mouse game was played every day for nearly 50 years. I personally don’t think we should be pushing the Ruskies on the missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic. That is akin to the Russians putting their own missiles in, oh lets say northern Alberta or Mexico City.

Given the fact that we have the islamonuts to deal with, we don’t need to be stirring up any more trouble right now. I don’t see Russia as an impeding threat at this moment. Not like in the 70s or early 80s.

What really scares me about the whole thing are the potential for mistakes and misunderstandings that could lead to the senseless deaths of millions.


152 posted on 02/11/2008 7:56:44 PM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: Flavius
The only way that ever happened is because we (US Navy) allowed it.

If either of those Russian planes had even made a twitch, they would been blown out of the sky so fast it would make their heads spin.

Now if the Russkies adopt the jihad way of thinking ( fly a TU-95 over a carrier and detonate a nuke ) well even then I think we will know if they have a nuke on-board.

153 posted on 02/11/2008 7:58:10 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: Jeff Head
"To allow a TU-95 to get this close is bordering on derelect IMHO"

So, the bulk of the US Fleet commanders were derelict during the cold war?

These escapades were common...very common. The Russians are not terrorists and if we were to shoot them down during these ops not only would we look stupid and weak, we'd be wrong. Up until about 15 years ago we would also find ourselves in the middle of a nuclear war.

I thought you knew all about this stuff...

154 posted on 02/11/2008 8:00:35 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Lurking in Kansas

all the color ones without lettering or labels are Mine.


155 posted on 02/11/2008 8:00:54 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

that was actually reside on the slide, not the lens :)


156 posted on 02/11/2008 8:02:40 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Agreed, also Russia is going fascist and this is important window dressing for the common Russian to absorb and dream of glorious thoughts of the motherland.


157 posted on 02/11/2008 8:03:11 PM PST by iThinkBig
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To: Flavius
Japan, meanwhile, filed a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Tokyo after Saturday's incident, saying that one of the Russian bombers crossed into Japanese airspace for three minutes. Russia has denied there was an intrusion.

Because Russia will lie, the only way to prove this is for the Japanese to shoot down any hostile aircraft that breaches their airspace, and put a chalk outline around the wreckage.

158 posted on 02/11/2008 8:05:34 PM PST by Syncro
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To: racing fan

There is more than F-18’s in the air around the Nimitz.

You can be sure the officer of the deck knew about the planes 1 hour or so before it made it’s final course correction inbound.

And you can bet that surrounding ships had it painted with radar before it was 100 miles near the nimitz.


159 posted on 02/11/2008 8:06:09 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Mariner
I never said to shoot them down. I did say that in the middle of the Pacific it would be prudent to intercept them much earlier...and I believe during the cold war there were many times that we did.

With the F-14s and their range and with barrier CAPs we were able to do so. I do not believe during the cold war that we allowed them to overfly our carriers directly over the deck at 600m if we could help it.

160 posted on 02/11/2008 8:07:47 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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