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Conservatives: Sitting Out 2008 Is the Height of Idiocy by Ben Shapiro
Family Security Matters ^ | 14 February 2008 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/14/2008 7:43:09 AM PST by K-oneTexas

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To: K-oneTexas
It's the conservative base's responsibility to nominate conservative candidates. In 2008, the conservative base failed.

This is the over-riding fact that the anti-McCain people seem to completely ignore. The "conservative base" was conspicuously absent from the voting booths on Super Tuesday and from the campaigns leading up to Iowa and New Hampshire. That is not the fault of the GOP. It is the fault of all those voters who chose not to vote or not to campaign for conservative candidates like Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter and Tommy Thompson.

The GOP didn't abandon the conservatives. The conservatives failed to make their voices heard.

John McCain will get my vote because thanks to the apathy of the GOP voters, he is the best choice we have right now.
121 posted on 02/14/2008 8:55:39 AM PST by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: farmer18th

Hmmm.... difficult... difficult.

Only for those who just can’t see the difference in the candidates, the parties, and the platforms.


122 posted on 02/14/2008 8:56:08 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: CommerceComet

I see a repeat of ‘96 where it actually doesn’t matter who the final GOP Presidential candidate is in ‘08. I see the Democrats winning BIG at every political level on November 4 and the U.S. truly becoming a third world “hellhole” for the long-term because of all of their political power on the left. How are conservatives truly supposed to succeed in stopping this momentum on both the Democratic and leftist side prior to November 4?


123 posted on 02/14/2008 8:57:39 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: All

I am not sitting home on election day...I am a precinct judge! So I will be there...all day! I still doubt if I can force my right hand to vote for McCain. I am working on it but I still may not be able to force my body to overrule my brain.


124 posted on 02/14/2008 8:57:39 AM PST by bennowens
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To: Bobkk47

Can you imagine the Moderates and RINO’s or outright Liberals that he would seat in his cabinet?

Forget a Conservative VP. He would not want our side of the party that close to what he is preparing to do to this country.

No way, no how. But never fret. He has NO chance of winning anyway, especially after the Viet Vets against McCain get through with him. The media will unleash the coup de gras in due time to get their savior Obama elected.


125 posted on 02/14/2008 8:59:22 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: K-oneTexas
But conservatives are fools if they stay home in November.

And the RNC and GOP loses for not staying where they should have been instead of drifting left.

I will NEVER vote for little McManiac.

126 posted on 02/14/2008 8:59:52 AM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: MSRiverdog
The thing is everyone that lets the Dems win because they don’t like McCain (I don’t either) know what they are in for.

I don't think they do know. Otherwise they wouldn't force that future on their children. We will have the jihadists here under Obama. They can't wait for him to get elected. They say they are going to come here when he gets elected. They think he is one of them.

127 posted on 02/14/2008 8:59:53 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: jaime1959

Yes McLain can be worse. I am sick and tired of holding my nose when I vote. If America has been so corrupted that we have no choice and will give in to any leftest offering presents, than in may be worth it to bring it all down and start building a new. We are headed for a cliff, McLain will take us there at 50, Hillary at 70, and Obamma at 90.


128 posted on 02/14/2008 9:02:20 AM PST by Exton1
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To: beandog

Maybe they don’t think they should have to court and pamper people for their vote. People need a dose of reality sometimes. Look at all the posts where people have stated clearly and politely the reasons for not staying home. Everyone hasn’t been insulting.


129 posted on 02/14/2008 9:02:45 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: wita
That's the point. Anne Coulter: "there's a Democrat behind doors 1, 2, and 3."

Why would a thinking person even consider voting for a guy who wants to shut down the First Amendment 60 days before an election. What's next? Maybe we should consider Fidel Castro for the next election cycle?
130 posted on 02/14/2008 9:03:39 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: CodeToad

Well, I’m glad you won’t be voting for Obama.


131 posted on 02/14/2008 9:04:24 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Sprite518

I don’t want my children and grandchildren murdered by jihadist thugs and besides I don’t have another 200 years to build it back.


132 posted on 02/14/2008 9:06:01 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Too bad you'll also be screwing our military and America's security.

You want to blame someone, blame McCain and the RINOS. As far as america's security, maybe we're going to have to lose a city or two before we figure out that this isn't little league play nice rules.

133 posted on 02/14/2008 9:07:40 AM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: savedbygrace

I like what Rush said. He compared the “evangelicals” of the RINO party to the blacks of the Rat party. After years of being promised they’d fix the problems we see in our country, we see they’ve failed to deliver.

The blacks might still dutifully vote for Rats but I’m not going to do the same for RINO’s. I’m not voting for evil men because they make promises to help fix problems, when they really just make the problems worse. I don’t think my position is stupid. I just don’t think Ben Shapiro, who ever that is, understands principal.


134 posted on 02/14/2008 9:08:31 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

You forget the power of the American free spirit. The Democrats will teach the public a lesson in voodoo economics they will never forget for generations to come.

It will be like the Carter years ten-fold. Don’t forget that Clinton had the Internet phenomenon and economic explosion that Reaganomics stimulated. The Media gave the Democrats all the credit for that economy.

But, that was then, this is NOW. Things are not so rosy these days. A Democrat controlled government will be an utter economic disaster without the strength of the private sector to carry the burden. That simply no longer will be there to make the Democrats or a Republican administration look good.

On the contrary, what ever party is in charge in the next several years will get the blame. It’s much better that they (Democrats) get the blame instead of the GOP. And Conservatives won’t get the blame for supporting a RINO this time around either.

So fear not!


135 posted on 02/14/2008 9:08:53 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: NavyCanDo

Absolutely. This is a fact and could be the worst thing of all and under Clinton or Obama, there is no doubt, IT WILL HAPPEN! With a majority in the house and senate, it will sail right through. This is one of the things the left has been salivating to get done.


136 posted on 02/14/2008 9:10:04 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: cripplecreek

What I want is for a conservative 3rd party type so that there will be a large % of normally GOP voters that jump ship......thusly sending the message for the 2012 cycle.

That % of normally GOP voters that goes to a specific 3rd party will be remembered just like the 19% that went for Perot. I don’t know if write-ins send the same message......but if there’s not a conservative-like 3rd party.....I’ll write-in as well.


137 posted on 02/14/2008 9:10:09 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Though we are striving mightily to send our manufacturing base overseas, Americans still know how to build cars. We know how to build houses. We know how to build lots of things. And I seriously doubt that if Americans find themselves in a situation in which none of the current parties represent the American creed, we have forgotten how to build a new political party.


138 posted on 02/14/2008 9:11:10 AM PST by EternalVigilance (In America, the people are sovereign. McCain, Obama as ministers? Has the king lost his mind?)
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To: beckysueb

or Billary.


139 posted on 02/14/2008 9:11:32 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I’m sorry, but you’re wrong, FRiend. As a vet myself, I understand the difference between strategic and tactical decisions, and I can see that the tactical decision to support McCain is a strategic blunder.

Yours is just another variation of the “the other guy/gal is worse” arguments, and it is unpersuasive in light of the actual record of McCain. McCain has already ceded the military tribunals for Gitmo prisoners, where national security secrets may be able to be kept secret without freeing dangerous illegal combatants. Instead, he wants to move these pukes to Leavenworth (where I live, by the way) and grant them free and open civil trials under the rights guaranteed to American citizens by the US Constitution.

He derides waterboarding as “torture”, and proclaims that he can stand a little abridgement of the first amendment for “clean government”.

You can disagree with someone’s principles and their stand to support them, but the insidious attempts to shame someone into abandoning their principles is truly the definition of chutzpah.


140 posted on 02/14/2008 9:11:50 AM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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