Posted on 02/14/2008 8:16:57 PM PST by jdm
You are obviously capable of building a Leopard OS capable machine
Only reason you cannot easily run it as an Apple computer is because Apple has designed the OS to run only on computers bought from Apple
IOW the latest and greatest Apple OS can be run on Wintel equipment same as Linux is, same as XP and Vista are --- Except that Apple wants the revenue from forcing its cultists to buy Apple hardware. So Apple hobbles the OS X to make it very dicey to run on hardware you don't buy from Apple
How does 3,132 processors strike you? However, the stock MacPro comes with eight.
Waah! Waah! I can’t get this Rolls-Royce fuel injection system to work on my Chebby V8! I can’t get the Mercedes KOMAND system to work on my Ford! How dare makers put limits on where you should be able to use something! Waah! Waah!
Its a closed system model versus an open one.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
A lot of non-cultists will pay more for a computer that just works efficiently and requires less maintenance.
Yes. That's no secret, and it's on purpose. Jobs has talked repeatedly about how Apple's core strength is that it controls "the whole widget." The software is designed to run on the hardware, and the hardware is designed to run the software, both at the same time.
Windows runs on anybody's hardware, which has made it the dominant player in the computing world; but it has also burdened Microsoft with supporting a virtually endless array of hardware and buggy drivers. Call support for a Windows problem, and the hardware vendor and Microsoft will point fingers at each other. Apple has one point of contact.
When in reality it could run on many Dell, HP, home made etc etc computers except that Apple cripples the OS so it cannot
But then Apple would have to take on support duties for things it cannot control. The whole point of the Mac, from jump, has been to get rid of that kind of tangle.
Apple sells a device that offers what I consider the nicest synergy of media and your compute platform - AppleTV. I just purchased one and it came with the new "Take 2" software. All I can say is - Incredible! I can rent movies on this device that I can then move to an ipod or a computer (and vice versa) to watch. I have 150Gb of 720p HD movies on my AppleTV and it is awesome. My kids favorite DVDs are digitized and I'll never have to buy another copy of "Cars" as long as I live!
That was years ago and it's much easier now
If Apple wanted to it could issue 10 recommended configurations tomorrow for laptops and desktops that would run OS Leopard just great. All it would take is removing code from Leopard that prevents it from being run on off the shelf equipment
Apple could easily recommend that this configuration will run non-hobbled Leopard.
BTW This is a wish list computer from a New Egg customer
I dare you to tell me this could not run Leopard except that Apple purposely designs Leopard to force you to buy Apple hardware----->>>>>
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I've been running El Gato's eyeTV as a Mac-based DVR for years now. You also have options from Miglia as well as Equinux.
I also think Myth has been ported to Mac OS X, but don't hold me to that...
Ahh, well, you should probably do a bit of fact checking before making such sweeping statements. This is posted from my Dell 8400 running Leopard 10.5.2 (that's right - the absolute latest & great form Apple). It runs like a dream, NEVER crashes, and is as fast as lightning. Minor hacking in software to get it running, but it is AWESOME (and sitting proudly next to my Mac Pro)...
Could it run Leopard? Sure. Technically, the specs are there.
Does Apple want to get into the blame game with either a) having to write drivers for a product they don’t ship or b) trusting to the 3rd party to write good drivers (hahahahahah)? No.
Do I care so long as when I come home from troubleshooting other people’s Windows machines (often with crappy driver problems) I don’t have to deal with... more driver problems? No - which is why this MCSE uses Macs at home.
I believe it’s a pure business decision.
Apple makes as much profit as HP or Dell on a whole lot less market share. HP & Dell sell a whole lot of very low or no profit items in order to sell much fewer high end upgrade boxes to make the same amount of money as Apple.
Less manufacturing, less inventory, less distribution, less support to make the same amount of money.
I use Elegato's EyeTV... works great for either Standard or HDTV. 4. Games. Windows and DirectX is still the platform of choice for PC gaming.
Fine, run your games in Boot Camp.
5. Upgradeability. Machines like iMacs are designed to be disposable. Most of the parts are proprietary.
Uh, no. Most of the parts are from the usual suspects... and you can change out processors if you want. Most don't.
If you do a google search, you will find that this hardware will most likely run Leopard with little or no modification. It will be fast - very fast, and very stable... I run Leopard on an old Dell 8400 that's awesome, and I've spec'd a very similar system (on NewEgg as well) to construct a new Hackintosh. I use a Mac Pro Quad Xeon as my main box, but love to tinker...
But then Apple would have to take on support duties for things it cannot control. The whole point of the Mac, from jump, has been to get rid of that kind of tangle.
That's a red herring.
As stated in another post---
Apple could issue tomorrow 10 slam dunk configurations it has tested verified and would support if you bought a special Leopard DVD. And Apple could support with minimal expense. But then it would lose a big chunk of revenue it gets from selling highly marked up Apple hardware to you .... ahem... suckers
Microsoft is in the OS business
Apple is in the OS business ....
Except that Apple has stumbled upon a scheme to force you to buy its hardware too
Apple could come out with this special edition Leopard that would cost me say $50 dollars more than if I owned an Apple computer
And Apple would support a list of 10 do it yourself laptop and desktop configurations
Computer manufacturers could make laptops and desktops that followed these configurations
The Macbook Pro is a professional machine... the MacBook is consumer. They will both run the same software. If your needs lean toward Pro work, get the MBP. I have a MBP. My daughter has an older iBook in the MacBook format. It also runs the same software (but it's not Intel). I prefer my MBP. Check the refurbs at the Apple store online... you can often pickup a MBP for $300 less than a non-refurb and both come with the same factory warranty.
That's not accurate. Apple licensed manufacturers of "clones," but only under license and subject to strict hardware guidelines. What Apple hoped was that licensing clone vendors would allow other vendors to create new niches for the Mac -- sub-notebooks, rack-mounts, and so on. Didn't happen.
What did, in fact, happen was that the cloners poached the Mac user base rather than expand it. So they pulled the plug. That was one of many missteps in the interim between post-Steve and re-Steve. They had a bewildering array of boring beige boxes and an OS that was, while I still preferred it to Windows, moribund.
When Steve came back, his first big unveiling was the iMac. One box. Stylish and simple. Jobs said back in 1984 that the Macintosh ideal was that a computer should simply be another household device, like a toaster. The iMac fit that vision.
Every Apple product since the Grand Return of Steve has followed that basic ethic: Machines you work with, not work on.
Hey... that’s pretty good
But most people can’t do that Hackentosh hacking
Your Dell 8400 is obviously an “Apple quality” computer and would run Leopard just fine without any hacks. Except that Apple has purposely crippled its OS so it runs only on a computer you buy from Apple
Hmmm. Well, I haven’t touched a PC with Windoze since 1990, so, it sounds nice but not for me. Hack one for OSX and you got a winner! (I especially like the GPS, extra memory and optical drive.)
It’s called a profitable business model.
You could tinker with it, cut some revenue from hardware, increase some support costs, charge more for the OS and the bundled apps, compete on the low end, etc... build a different business model.
I don’t think you can simplify it to crippling to force suckers to.. yada yada.
I have a choice and I feel I get more value for the Macs I buy than the WinTel boxes.
Your mileage may vary.
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