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With McCain GOP nominee, should Pubs in remaining states pick Hillary or Obama?
vanity
| February 14, 2008
| the eagle has landed
Posted on 02/14/2008 10:10:39 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
Illinois is already completed, so my state is out.
But if you live in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Oregon, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc. left in the Democrat party primaries. With Obama and Clinton fairly close, but Obama winning by large margins lately.
Would conservatives be better off entering the Democrat primaries they can participate in to vote for Hillary and keep it close or vote for Obama to help him get a huge delegate lead and end the Clinton's stranglehold that has been over the Democrat party since 1992.
Conservatives who can't support McCain and nothing else really left to decide nationally, other than the number of delegates Huckabee and Ron Paul will get.
With Romney endorsing McCain encouraging his delegates to McCain as payback for Huckabee undercutting Romney throughout the primary. Huckabee, game over.
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To: britt reed
The time and effort expended in this exercise in futility would be better spent on grassroots support for getting actual conservatives on ballots and getting elected to Congress. For us to have the best chance of regaining Congress, two things should happen:
- Obama should be ahead going into the convention, but not so far ahead that Hillary can't SuperDelegate her way to the nomination.
- Someone other than McCain should be the nominee, so disaffected Democrats will simply stay home.
Since #2 seems unlikely, #1 seems perhaps dangerous. If Obama's priority list includes things like tripling the minimum wage, he's apt to flail uselessly in his first couple years like the Clintons did.
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:29:57 PM PST
by
supercat
To: Eric Blair 2084
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:31:05 PM PST
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: pissant; All
Are you not supporting conservative congressmen? That is the ONLY type I support. Always
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:31:16 PM PST
by
britt reed
(What if the Founding Fathers had "just stayed home"?)
To: TheEaglehasLanded
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:31:27 PM PST
by
advance_copy
(Stand for life or nothing at all)
To: TheEaglehasLanded
I could never pull the lever for a liberal Democrat for fear of getting Cooties. But, if you’re inclined to cause mischief, I’d say vote for Obama. He is extremely liberal and hasn’t been called to defend that record. Hillary will hold traditional Democrats and will get a sizable vote from women voting for her because she’s a woman only. Blacks already vote Democrat and are only 13% of the electorate. Obama will be much easier to beat, he’s ascended based on empty, touchy-feely rhetoric. He can’t keep that up until November.
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:31:48 PM PST
by
Azzurri
To: britt reed
Hence, when a liberal one ascends to the GOP presidential race, I don’t support them.
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:32:58 PM PST
by
pissant
(Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
To: TheEaglehasLanded
KV the househole politicko afficainato is sleeping so I will risk looking dumb by asking....
How can we vote D (not that I would ) in the Primary if we are Republican?
Oregon BTW has it’s primary in May.
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:37:42 PM PST
by
Global2010
(Election 2008 like playin Shoots and Ladders (ages 5 and up))
To: advance_copy
Rush Limbuagh: "If Obama is the nominee, we are doomed..." John McCain would certainly be more likely to win against Hillary than Obama. On the other hand, a McCain victory would completely seal the fate of the OGOP. It's really hard to say which scenario is least vile.
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:41:13 PM PST
by
supercat
To: WOSG
Some of the states have their Presidential Primaries on 1 date and the down ballot races at a later date.
Obviously, if you have a down ballot candidate you like or have worked for you have to vote in Republican primary and not vote for McCain for President.
To: Uncle Miltie
I'll be writing in
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:48:08 PM PST
by
KTM rider
(Why cut off your nose to spite your face, when you can just hold it instead)
To: KTM rider
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:49:47 PM PST
by
KTM rider
(Why cut off your nose to spite your face, when you can just hold it instead)
To: TheEaglehasLanded
Obama is the trojan horse communist. Obama is devoted to subverting U.S. sorveignty to the U.N. to redistribute wealth on a global scale. No wonder he is hailed by Daniel Ortega as "revolutionary". B. Hussein Obama is the most dangerous candidate by far. Imagine Jimmy Carter foreign policy plus a true believer in Marxism and racial "justice", and you have the absolute disaster of a President Obama.
Hillary talks a good game, but she would never yank troops from Iraq. She is part of the great D.C. machine now, absorbed by the lobbyist Borg as was McCain, Dole, Bush, DeLay et al. No she hasn't lost her liberal verve, but she is beholden to too many corporate interests now to foment any radical change.
Plus a Clinton come from behind victory for the nomination would devastate the black and young voters in November, keeping them home in droves, and giving us the only fighting chance we've got. That depressed turnout could also make the difference in close Senate races such as Colorado, etc.
I urge all Republicans in states such as TX to vote for Hillary and crush the Pied Piper of Obama.
To: TheEaglehasLanded
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:54:49 PM PST
by
SoDak
(Anyone but Obama)
To: montag813
Brilliant. My thoughts exactly. An Obama presidency is the worst possible outcome of Election 2008.
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posted on
02/14/2008 10:59:14 PM PST
by
SoDak
(Anyone but Obama)
To: TheEaglehasLanded
Obama could get a strong Democrat vote in the general election, but Hillary would get a large swing vote from our Party (feminism, globalism, import interests). Obama really wouldn’t get much done as a president. He would be too overwhelmed by competing interests in his Party and often blocked by Congress.
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posted on
02/14/2008 11:00:17 PM PST
by
familyop
("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
To: supercat
It's really hard to say which scenario is least vile. Of the three liberals on the ticket[s], vote for one who can abuse the least and do the least damage with that power... and that's Obama. This would be a repeat of the early Clinton WH years, only Obama will not be able to regroup and change course, because he would become hated by his faithful and because he doesn't have the DLC background and "formation" to back him.
Conservatives then might even find some spine and new, young[er] leaders, and will have 2+ years to deliver the strategy and the candidates.
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posted on
02/14/2008 11:01:02 PM PST
by
CutePuppy
(If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
To: svcw
Read the post about this far left radical socialist by Cliff Kincard . Glenn Beck did a scary segment on this radical leftist.
His voting record is far more left than Bernie Saunder the socialist from Vermont!
Be very scared of Obama Hussien !
Vote Hillary to keep him far far away from power.
You can smell there is something sinister about him.
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posted on
02/14/2008 11:01:06 PM PST
by
ncalburt
To: TheEaglehasLanded
I’m going to vote for the conservative, Dr. Ron Paul.
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posted on
02/14/2008 11:02:24 PM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: TheEaglehasLanded
I am in Texas. I won’t vote in the Dem primary because there are other races beside the one for President.
Some of us feel it is important to vote in the Primaries for particular candidates as Judges, District Attorneys, State Senators, legislators, sheriffs, County Treasurers, etc. The Presidential Primary isn’t the only thing Texans are voting on in these primaries.
To: CutePuppy
Have you ever read anything about this radical socialist?
This guy is by far the most radical leftist in the senate!
He is farther left than Bernie Saunders!~
His has connections to the US socialist party and the socialist labor unions in Chicago.
Who do you think is financing him with those millions
? Soros, Daley machine , radical labor unions.
How do you think he got his senate seat ?
He got a fellow Daley stooge judge to reopen the sealed divorce papers of his repub rival .
This socialist is evil , power hungry ,and radical !
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posted on
02/14/2008 11:06:39 PM PST
by
ncalburt
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