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Bush Recognizes Kosovo's Independence
AP ^ | 2-18-08 | AP

Posted on 02/18/2008 7:23:50 AM PST by CJ Wolf

President Bush on Monday hailed Kosovo's bold and historic bid for statehood, saying "The Kosovars are now independent."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: appeasement; balkanization; balkans; bds; blamebushfirst; bush; illegalimmigrants; immigration; jihad; kosovo; mohammedanism; praise; russia; wot; wrongside
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity
This is nothing short of incredible. While Bush et al are saying at the UN that this Will not cause separatist movements around the world, Abkhazia and South Ossetia have already announced their intentions to seek the same privileges given to Kosovo.

It reminds me of the Iranian prez's public hallucinations.

81 posted on 02/18/2008 10:28:27 AM PST by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: MarMema

Bush has never heard of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

He hasn’t a clue.


82 posted on 02/18/2008 10:37:03 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity

Yep, that’s because he’s a product of no child left behind.


83 posted on 02/18/2008 10:44:44 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: RightWhale

“It couldn’t be so simple. If it is so simple how could it possibly be important?”


Do we need oil from Islamic nations or don’t we? Yes, its that simple.


84 posted on 02/18/2008 10:52:34 AM PST by jamese777
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To: Sioux-san

I wholeheartedly agree with your #59!


85 posted on 02/18/2008 11:21:54 AM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: jpsb
No way, I don’t believe it. Not even Bush can be that stupid.

Yes he can, and those of us on this forum that tried to warn of this have been vilified for years.

Case in point, he is about (try) to force Israel to give up sovereignty of Jerusalem, which under Israel's Constitution is illegal, unless voted on by the Knesset, which is not being done.

86 posted on 02/18/2008 11:33:25 AM PST by itsahoot (Gingrich: "We don't have a peace process. We have a surrender process." (Duncan Hunter gets it.))
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity; MarMema
VDH is of course right. A big fat bluff. Kosovo is a failed state and hardly "independent". It will be run as a EU protectorate, and there is no way the EU will ever be able to protect it against Russia if it really came to that.

Kosovo - the newest EU province

In fact, ultimate executive power will remain with the Eurocrats who govern the territory. The EU also has a monopoly on the use of legitimate force in Kosovo. Its officials even dictated the terms on which independence could be reached, forbidding the use of the double-headed eagle as a flag and ruling out a plebiscite on union with neighbouring Albania.

For all the fuss, Kosovo is not independent in any meaningful sense. It is an EU satrapy. Its subordination is reinforced by its symbols. Its flag is a variant on the EU emblem: stars on a blue background. And, at its independence ceremony, the EU anthem, Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony, was played.

Bush, the EU foreign ministers and some PMs have all tried to paint Kosovo as something unique, a situation sui generis which should not be seen as a go ahead for other secessionist movements.

If they really believed that anyone would listen, then we should be able to sell them loads and loads of used bridges. Stupidity galore!

As you've noted, already Abkhazia and South Ossetia have decided to ask Russia and the United Nations to recognise their own independence in the wake of Sunday's unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo.

Kosovo independence emboldens South Caucasus breakaway republics

But they are not the only ones. Leaders of Ngorno-Karabakh have also expressed their hope that Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence would set a precedent for their own unrecognised South Caucasian republic, officially part of Azerbaijan. And in Bosnia the serb enclave Republica Srebska one party has asked the local government to declare indendence.

Yes, this can certainly be a legacy that will be remembered.

87 posted on 02/18/2008 11:34:49 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: shuckmaster
Does this mean Texas is next?

What do you mean next, de-facto accomplished already.

88 posted on 02/18/2008 11:38:35 AM PST by itsahoot (Gingrich: "We don't have a peace process. We have a surrender process." (Duncan Hunter gets it.))
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To: ScaniaBoy

And just wait. Indonesia is trembling and so is Spain.


89 posted on 02/18/2008 11:43:25 AM PST by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: CJ Wolf
Being a Serb, yes I do not like where my family was forced to leave five generations ago be stolen from them. Being an American, I still don't like the precedence being set. Other local regions will see what was done and what was done is a short-term gain but long-term headache. It is like taking a shot of heroine, a quick fix but the high ends and reality sets in.

Then again, history does repeat itself as politicans and govt's refuse to listen to history. This one will come back to haunt this nation in its Wars on Drugs and Terrorism. Kosovo is a proven ground in moving drugs, human trafficking, terrorist haven for training and recruitment and arms.

They will next want Presevo...big PROBLEMS. Serbia will now be recieving larger segments of training and weapon systems from Russia and China..this will definately be more of a Russian proving grounds..along with China as they both will now prove this was a major Balkan mistake to win a larger foothold within the Balkans..for their own interests, not for the Serb sake...

90 posted on 02/18/2008 11:44:35 AM PST by ma bell (bollocks... its just bollocks)
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To: MarMema

Yes, the Spanish blocked an EU resolution on Kosovo today - in the end they decided to remain split on the issue.

And Indonesia has condemned Kosovo’s action as illegal, and stated that they will not recognise its independence. And then we have Sri Lanka.....

I mean it is not as we didn’t have enough problems in the world today. Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Israel, Iran, Copenhagen is burning for the 8th day in a row....etc, etc.


91 posted on 02/18/2008 11:50:28 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: CJ Wolf
Bush Recognizes Kosovo's Independence

"Allahu Akbar!"

92 posted on 02/18/2008 12:31:48 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Serbia recalls ambassador after U.S. recognizes Kosovo

BELGRADE (Reuters) - Serbia recalled its ambassador to the United States on Monday after Washington recognized Kosovo as independent, and said it would do the same for all countries that treat Serbia’s breakaway territory as a state.

“We ordered the urgent withdrawal of our ambassador to Washington, and his return to Belgrade, that is the government’s first urgent measure,” Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica told a special session of parliament.

“This will apply to all countries that recognize Kosovo’s unilateral independence,” he said, without specifically mentioning EU states that also said they would recognize Pristina.

Serbia’s southern province of Kosovo declared independence on Sunday after almost nine years under U.N. administration.

Kostunica said the U.S. move continued the NATO aggression which began when it bombed Serbia in 1999 to expel Serb forces from Kosovo and stop a brutal crackdown on ethnic Albanian separatists.

“We all know that this unilateral, illegal, violent and immoral proclamation of a false state on the territory of Serbia was possible only under the auspices of brutal force, of the U.S. and NATO,” he said.

“The proof is the attempt to avoid the United Nations, and the disunity among European Union member states in spite of unbearable pressure by the U.S.”

Kostunica said recognition showed the true face of Washington’s “policy of force”. He repeated accusations that the United States supported Kosovo’s independence so that it can have a “military training ground and a NATO warehouse”.

“The main goal of Serbia’s state policy is the return of Kosovo to Serbia,” he said in the address carried live on state television. “From now on, we will act to secure a free and safe life for our citizens in Kosovo.”

Some 120,000 Serbs still live in Kosovo, among 2 million Albanians. Belgrade, which has said it will not use force, has no practical chance of winning the province back.

Kostunica said an EU police and justice mission that would soon be deployed to Kosovo was illegal and represented a breach of Serbian sovereignty. Belgrade did not recognize it, and dismissed its authority.

He also appealed for calm after two days of at times violent protests in Belgrade, directed mostly at U.S. and EU embassies and businesses, some of which were vandalized.

“We must be wise and persistent and show our dignity and strength,” he said. “Serbia has to maintain stability in order to regain Kosovo.”

(Reporting by Ljilja Cvekic and Ksenija Prodanovic; Writing by Ellie Tzortzi and Richard Meares)


93 posted on 02/18/2008 12:32:09 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: MarMema

Azerbaijan says not recognizing Kosovo independence

BAKU (Reuters) - Ex-Soviet Azerbaijan said on Monday it did not recognize Kosovo’s declaration of independence.

“We view this illegal act as being in contradiction with international law,” said Khazar Ibrahim, head of the press service at Azerbaijan’s Foreign Ministry.

“Proceeding from this, Azerbaijan’s position is clear: it does not recognize (Kosovo’s) independence.”

Kosovo declared its independence from Serbia on Sunday. The United States and most members of the European Union are expected to grant recognition soon.

Azerbaijan has been trying to restore control over its breakaway region of Nagorno-Karabakh, where ethnic Armenian separatists threw off Azeri rule in a war in the 1990s that killed about 35,000 people.

The separatists’ foreign minister said on Sunday Kosovo’s independence would help Nagorno-Karabakh’s drive for international recognition.

Azerbaijan has 34 troops serving in the NATO-led Kosovo peacekeeping force KFOR.

(Reporting by Lada Yevgrashina; Additional reporting by Matt Robinson in Pristina; Writing by Christian Lowe)


94 posted on 02/18/2008 12:34:21 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Just a little reminder of the churches burned while the west protected Kosovo from the mean Serbians.

http://www.kosovo.net/ckos/page_02.htm


95 posted on 02/18/2008 12:34:22 PM PST by ScratInTheHat (Don't like my immigration stance? I'm dyslexic. PC keeps sounding like BS to me!)
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To: sam_paine

Where are those 100,000 mass graves that were used as justification for bombing the cilivians in Belgrade, anyway?

Other than the ones we found in Iraq, of course.


96 posted on 02/18/2008 12:39:04 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: KC_Conspirator

You betcha. It’s disgusting.


97 posted on 02/18/2008 12:40:06 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: kronos77
Serbia charges Kosovo’s leaders Serbia filed legal charges against Kosovo’s leadership Monday for creating a "false state" and vowed to block the nascent nation’s attempts to join the international community in a fierce response to the declaration of independence, APA reports The Interior Ministry said Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu, Prime Minister Hashim Thaci and Speaker Jakup Krasniqi had been charged with committing "a serious criminal act against the constitutional order and security of Serbia" following Sunday’s declaration by Kosovo’s Albanian-dominated parliament. “Territory of country is indivisible and a part of country territory can be separated after amendments to Constitution,” Foreign Ministry’s statement said. Albanian leaders:
98 posted on 02/18/2008 12:41:32 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: CJ Wolf
McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION
99 posted on 02/18/2008 12:42:00 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: kronos77

J’lem takes wait-and-see approach to Kosovo

independence yesterday, and will form its position in the future, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs yesterday stated in a laconic announcement on the predominantly Muslim region’s secession from Serbia earlier in the day.

Officials in Jerusalem have expressed reservations about recognizing Kosovo as Advertisement

an independent state, citing the fact that the secession is unilateral. Advertisement

Several Israeli diplomats said recognizing the declaration could have implications on the Palestinian issue.

“The Government of Serbia considers this decision, made outside the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, illegal,” Serbian Deputy Prime Minister Bozidar Djelic said in a statement on the declaration of independence.

Serbia’s leaders pledged peaceful resistance after Kosovo’s declaration, but some 2,000 angry protesters gathered at the United States Embassy in Belgrade to vent their anger at the American backing for the breakaway province. “Kosovo is the heart of Serbia,” many chanted.


100 posted on 02/18/2008 12:42:55 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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