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France:The well-dressed girl gangs of Paris ready to stab rivals in disputes over boys
Times of London ^ | 02/23/08 | Adam Sage

Posted on 02/23/2008 12:27:16 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

The well-dressed girl gangs of Paris ready to stab rivals in disputes over boys

Adam Sage in Chelles

When police learnt that rival gangs were planning a showdown in Chelles, east of Paris, they prepared for the sort of violence that has become routine in France's troubled suburbs.

But even the most hardened officers were stunned as they arrived at the scene. The participants in what has become known as the battle of Chelles bus station were all girls aged between 14 and 17.

“They were fighting like the toughest of boys,” a policewoman who saw the confrontation this month said. “They had knives, screwdrivers, sticks and teargas and they were really going for each other. There must have been about 100 of them - some taking part and some there as spectators. It was quite frightening and if we hadn't intervened quickly, it would have ended in a bloodbath.”

Eight girls were arrested and France was caught in anguished debate over les petites terreurs copying the brutal behaviour of their male counterparts, a concern that has been heightened by a 140 per cent increase in female adolescent violence since 2002.

When The Times met some of the girls last week, they were revealed as ordinary adolescents brought up on multi-ethnic housing estates where violence has become the norm. They dress with style, use make-up, talk in sweet tones - and think that teargas and kitchen knives are appropriate for settling a teenage dispute over boys.

Awa, for instance, is a member of the girl's gang from Meaux, outside Paris, which confronted rivals from Noisiel, a town 25 miles (40 kilometres) away, at the bus station in Chelles, where they all attend a sixth-form college.

“It all began because one of the Noisiel girls started hanging around the boys in Meaux,” said the 16-year-old, who was wearing a black jacket and pristine white blouse. “We phoned her up and told her to stop. You don't start going out with our boys if you're from Noisiel. The girl took the call badly and said she was coming down with some of her friends to do us in. So we had to meet them.”

There was an initial clash by the 613 bus stop in Chelles on a Friday afternoon, with a dozen or so girls from each side kicking and punching each other. When that ended without a clear winner, the adolescents sent text messages to arrange another confrontation for the next Monday. This time they brought knives, other weapons and self-defence sprays containing a form of teargas.

“We quite often have to deal with girls' violence these days,” said the policewoman. “But it's usually four of five of them having a punch-up. I've never seen a pitched battle between gangs of girls like that before, although I'm not completely surprised because they all seem to want to imitate the boys these days. They swear and spit and are really aggressive.”

With turf wars between male gangs a common feature of the French suburbs, which have become synonymous with high immigration, segregation, riots, crime and drugs, it was only a matter of time before the practice spread to girls, she said.

“It's all about defending your territory,” said Jenaba, another 16-year-old participant in the battle of Chelles. “We grew up together in Meaux, we have been friends since primary school and we go dancing together. It's only natural that we should stick together against the Noisiel gang.”

When asked whether there was an ethnic dimension to the fight, she reacted with surprise. “It's not the blacks against the Arabs or anything like that. We're all mixed up together. It's just one estate against another.”

“Some of the girls are incredibly violent these days,” Mohammed, a 16-year-old boy, said. “They're tougher than us. Just the other day a girl in school chased a boy all the way around the grounds with a knife. He had to climb up a tree to get away from her.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; gangs; girlgangs; meaux; noisiel; paris; violence
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140 per cent increase in female adolescent violence since 2002

French girls are not what they used to be. Backstabbing is out, in-your-face is in.:-)

1 posted on 02/23/2008 12:27:18 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Anywhere else in nature where the females fight each other for the males?


2 posted on 02/23/2008 12:31:29 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The New Europe.


3 posted on 02/23/2008 12:33:50 AM PST by fire and forget
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well, this is certainly disturbing :-(


4 posted on 02/23/2008 12:35:18 AM PST by Bobalu (I guess I see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
A civilized society can only absorb so much barbarian culture, and remain a civilized society.

We can't win this battle and be politically correct. Someone will just have to be insulted.

5 posted on 02/23/2008 12:36:24 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: endthematrix

Planet Earth.


6 posted on 02/23/2008 12:37:15 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Now researchers have found that, among katydids and crickets, nature's normal gender roles are sometimes reversed, with the male standing by as two or more female suitors rear up in a pitched battle for his affection.

Nature Switches Roles For the Mating Game

7 posted on 02/23/2008 12:37:56 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix
So we all have to be crickets to stay politically correct.:-)
8 posted on 02/23/2008 12:39:00 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Meaux, I’ve just met a girl named Meaux,
and suddenly the name will never be the same to me.
Meaux! I’ve just kissed a girl named Meaux.
And suddenly I’ve found how wonderful a sound can be.
Meaux, say it loud and there’s music playing.
Say it soft and it’s almost like praying,
Meaux, I never stop saying: “Meaux!”


9 posted on 02/23/2008 12:42:06 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This brings to mind an airborne afternoon traffic report of some years ago. The eye-in-the-sky reporter was trying to contain his laughter at what he was seeing below him. Two cars had collided in an intersection. Both female drivers were out of their vehicles, kicking, punching and hair-pulling for the world to see.


10 posted on 02/23/2008 12:42:24 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: endthematrix

“...observations on an introduced but free-ranging population of emus at Tidbinbilla Nature Reserve in the Australian Capital Territory. Emus combined monogamy, polyandry and promiscuity. All initially unpaired males paired with and incubated a clutch for females whose primary mates were preoccupied with incubation. However, females were also promiscuous, and most copulations we observed were extra-pair. Females fight vigorously among themselves for access to unpaired males.”

http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=ZO9950365.pdf


Also:

Female competition: causes, constraints, content, and contexts.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-114593246.html


11 posted on 02/23/2008 12:43:53 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
See Saleh’s comment below the article. It’s the elites fault, he says. And the army should stop fighting insurgents.
12 posted on 02/23/2008 12:44:08 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Obama: voted a more liberal record than Ted Kennedy.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No deodorant or shaving armpits either.


13 posted on 02/23/2008 12:56:39 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: elhombrelibre
Education is not a good thing if it is abused as indoctrination vehicle.
14 posted on 02/23/2008 12:59:12 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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It may be new in France, but it’s been here in America for quite a long time now.


15 posted on 02/23/2008 1:18:45 AM PST by Cindy
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Cherchez la femme, Cherchez la femme, Dans la nuit, Dans la nuit.


16 posted on 02/23/2008 1:45:34 AM PST by tlb
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Awa... Jenaba...Mohammed” = the kids mentioned in the article.

I think I know all I really need to know at this point.


17 posted on 02/23/2008 3:20:11 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Fortunately, so far they fight over little things. No Jihad yet.
18 posted on 02/23/2008 3:47:14 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: vladimir998
“Awa... Jenaba...Mohammed” = the kids mentioned in the article. I think I know all I really need to know at this point.

Bingo. Someone finally got it. These aren't "French" teenagers. And how un-Islamic of these females! Where is sharia law when you need it?

19 posted on 02/23/2008 5:25:22 AM PST by hellbender
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To: tlb

Quel dommage!


20 posted on 02/23/2008 5:26:30 AM PST by NewCenturions ('S mòr mo mhulad, 's mòr.)
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