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Migrants unlikely to end up in prison
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 2/26/08 | Javier Erik Olvera

Posted on 02/26/2008 7:27:13 AM PST by Technoman

REPORT LINKS FEW FOREIGN-BORN TO CRIME

Countering widespread belief, a new report shows California's foreign-born population - including illegal immigrants - makes up only a sliver of the state's population of inmates.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegal; immigration; immigrayion
Well, there you have it. Even with mandates like Special Order 40, that prohibit police from asking immigration status from arrestees, law enforcement has a clear understanding that illegal aliens commit fewer crimes. I now feel a lot safer.

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1 posted on 02/26/2008 7:27:18 AM PST by Technoman
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To: Technoman

Two things: Second generation that have gone to public schools have a high crime rate, And bail is too low and Mexico too close.


2 posted on 02/26/2008 7:31:05 AM PST by Poincare (Hope is nostalgia for the future.)
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If this were true, then why would LaRaza order their senators to include gang bangers, terrorists and other hardened criminals in on amnesty?

Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:


3 posted on 02/26/2008 7:36:06 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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This "study" is utter bullsh*t. It compares percent of the population with percent of the prison population. Therefore, any group with a large number of infants, 6-year-olds, etc. will look "underrepresented" in the prisons. Duh.

Plus, of course, it doesn't distinguish between legal immigrants and illegals. That covers up the excess criminality of the illegals. Only a bigoted person would fail to see the dishonesty in this "study."

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4 posted on 02/26/2008 7:42:12 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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Countering widespread belief, a new report shows California's foreign-born population - including illegal immigrants

I don't want to say much till I can see the full report, but this is your tip-off that it's likely to be the same old attempt to confuse things.

No one is suspicious of legally admitted immigrants, who are carefully screened for criminal history. The issue is the illegals. By mixing the two together, demagogues obscure the issue, diluting the crime rate of the illegals with the good conduct of the legal aliens.

Dont fall for any study that looks at all immigrants. You want to know whether or not illegals are overrepresented in prison, not whether or not immigrants of all kinds are overrepresented.

5 posted on 02/26/2008 7:45:13 AM PST by freespirited (All great truths begin as blasphemies. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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Legal immigrants have already shown respect for American laws simply by using the proper channels and entering the country legally. They are to be commended for this and welcomed.

Illegal immigrants have already committed a crime by entering the country illegally and as such I will refer to them as foreign criminals, because that’s what they are. When you couch it in these terms it’s easier to win the debate. For example if you ask the question, should foreign criminals be eligible for driver’s licenses, then the answer is clear.

</common sense>


6 posted on 02/26/2008 8:12:40 AM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge (There's no 'F' in 'Conservative GOP Candidates'.)
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Catch and release is the reason. Illegals get away with crimes we citizens would get locked up for.


7 posted on 02/26/2008 10:35:59 AM PST by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

8 posted on 02/26/2008 9:54:18 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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