Posted on 02/26/2008 4:30:47 PM PST by reaganator
Gasoline is $3.19 here in Ohio today. Is anyone fighting to lower the over reaching, restrictions on production. Is there any hope for the abilty to manufacture gasoline to dramatcally increase in the near future?
If the answer is nothing, what then?
You summed it up quite well.
Where do you get this stuff? Comic books? Science fiction? U.S. oil production peaked 30 years ago...or do you know something which Matt Simmons has failed to notice.
No new refineries are being built because of environmental restrictions.
Good.
...or allow space for the natural world, or take account of the land which is unusable. Thomas Sowell has been peddling this argument for 20 years, at least. He got it from Julian Simon.
It's crap.
Mr DogGone, your statement is at least runner up if not the winner of 'retarded statements'.....
We are building the Gulf States and the Saudis, allowing ourselves to decay, and allowing Iran and Saudi Arabia to export terror.
While we do that the dollar free falls, and a huge transfer of wealth is happening before our very eyes. To whose benefit? International corporations who neither respect nor support the US or Christians. Secular PC has spread its tentacles internationally and we are the losers..and will continue to be so.
The only thing that will increase about gasoline are the users and price.
At least 3 known reserves in Alaska; huge reserves off the pacific coast; large reserves in the eastern Gulf, all restricted from drilling. The US has enough known oil reserves to be energy independent for generations. The government and environmental groups block every attempt to utilize them. Not comic books, just facts, verifiable in less than 5 minutes through a simple search of the Internet. Once again, sorry if that disturbs your world view.
And if you like $3.00 gas because your are an eco freak fine. Just be a man and take credit for it, don't try to blame the oil companies. If it is such a great thing to do, you should be standing proud, not trying to hide and shift blame. But as we know, that is what liberals do.
Yeah I feel that way too when my world view is threatened.
Glad you’re so open minded.
Fact. U.S. oil production peaked some 30 years ago.
Fact. Matt Simmons, one of the world's foremost oil experts, argues world oil production will peak very soon, if it already done so.
Fact. You claim a 5 minute Internet search will refute him and show that U.S. production peaked due to legal restrictions.
Prove it. Cite your sources. We'll see immediately whose world view is threatened.
If human beings could live within their means they wouldn’t be destroying the natural world at such an alarming rate.
ANWR (artic national wildlife refuge)
U.S. Geological Survey - 1980. In 1980, the U.S. Geological Survey estimated the Coastal Plain could contain up to 17 billion barrels of oil and 34 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.
In 1996 the North Slope oil fields produced about 1.5 million barrels of oil per day, or approximately 25 percent of the U.S. domestic production.
(in 1983-84 and 1984-85), the U.S. Department of Interior (DOI), in its April, 1987 report on the oil and gas potential of the Coastal Plain, estimated that there are billions of barrels of oil to be discovered in the area. DOI estimates that “in-place resources” range from 4.8 billion to 29.4 billion barrels of oil. Recoverable oil estimates ranges from 600 million barrels at the low end to 9.2 billion barrels at the high end. They also reported identifying 26 separate oil and gas prospects in the Coastal Plain that could each contain “super giant” fields (500 million barrels or more).
Cite your sources first.
People couldn’t destroy the ‘natural world’ even if they tried. And they certainly aren’t destroying it by simply living their lives.
Until people like you park their cars, stop traveling, eating and breathing will I believe you care about the world.
Why don’t you lead the way in which you think everyone else should live?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090500275.html
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/alaska-oil-anwar.html
http://www.doi.gov/news/040122cfact.htm
http://www.american.edu/ted/alaska.htm
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/SohailAhmed.shtml
http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/05/news/companies/chevron_gulf/index.htm
http://www.dpcusa.org/policy/010514/010514.html
See thats another misconception you have. Just exactly what are we detroying at an astromnonical scale. Name one, then I’ll set ya straight.
My principal source is Matt Simmons' book "Twilight in the Desert". In it he reviews all world sources, their history and possibilities, and concludes that the only real surplus lies in Saudi Arabia. He then examines their fields and concludes the surplus doesn't really exist. I can't find my copy of the book so I can't cite by page but Here is a list of Simmons' speeches on the topic of peak oil. Wikipedia has a good article on him as well.
Paul Roberts in "The End of Oil" agrees with Simmons.
Daniel Yergin is Simmons' principle opponent. His views are laid out in "Energy Future. Report of the Energy Project at the Harvard Business School" I side with Simmons (mostly because the Saudis have been unable to increase output and their oil is increasingly sour) but I found this worth reading.
Don't expect to hear from me for awhile. Comparing this stuff with what you've posted will take some work....and I do have a life.
Tropical forests. They've been diminished by 50% in the last 50 years.
Animal species. Tigers and mountain gorillas are teetering on the verge of extinction (just off the top of my head).
Fish. Several shark species are threatened. The great spawning grounds off America's coast have been decimated. Again just off the top of my head.
I am. I live in a super-efficient underground house. I keep my driving to an absolute minimum (although, to be honest, I do this because I hate driving). And I make the arguments I'm making.
As for the implied suggestion that I commit suicide to help reduce the population...you're confused. The Golden Rule doesn't apply here. "Do unto others before they do unto you" is the applicable phrase. I'm an old man living in a remote area so I don't have too much to fear or protect but if I were young I would be far more active about this.
I don't expect or desire to hear from you at all. Your references are totally off point and an attempt to obfuscate, so I have no interest in them as it relates to:
Domestic oil production (and concurrently global production) is stunted because of restriction on drilling in Alaska, the Pacific coastline, the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the Atlantic Coastline and regions of Wyoming, Colorado and Utah. There is oil or the high probability of in each of these areas and exploration has been prevented. That is because of Congress (votes on record defeating attempts to expand exploration and leasing in each of these areas) and Eco Freaks, not the oil companies lack of desire.
The second point is that domestic refining capacity is stunted, no new refineries built in the United States due to environmental regulations. Congress recently defeated a proposal to modify the requirements to build on decommissioned military reservations, so their role is undeniable. As an Eco Freak you applauded this. All well and good, but you cannot then blame the oil companies for the lack of refining capacity and its impact on gas prices. You should proudly claim responsibility.
Yea, to your way of thinking, if a beaver builds a dam, that's a wonder of nature. If man builds a dam, that's a crime against nature.
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