Scores Speak Out on Deportation After Jail (Life in a Sanctuary City)

"It is a secret that is screaming," Rosalba Rodriguez on Monday told a stifling room packed for a hearing on the deportation of undocumented Latinos from the Dane County Jail.

Rodriguez, speaking through an interpreter, said that her brother was deported after being advised to plead to a minor crime and serve jail time. He was, she said, deceived about what would happen to him.

Dane County Supervisor Ashok Kumar, District 5, called the hearing before the Public Protection and Judiciary Committee of the County Board because of growing concern over a rising number of undocumented immigrants, mostly Latino, who apparently are being deported by federal authorities after they complete their sentences in the Dane County Jail.

Scores of people from among the more than 100 gathered spoke passionately of the need to change jail policy of reporting undocumented inmates to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. A few urged Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney to continue the practice.

Kumar challenged Mahoney to explain why the jail notifies ICE -- in apparent violation of county ordinance -- when no law requires the notification.

Jail authorities say they do not know how many of the 61 inmates on which ICE placed detention holds last year were ultimately deported because the jail does not keep track of which agency picks up inmates.

But the jail will "try" to begin to keep such statistics, Mahoney said in an interview Monday.

"It will take additional resources, because it will have to be done by hand," Mahoney said.

The Capital Times had asked Mahoney to start tracking the number of inmates released to ICE so that a clearer picture would emerge of the phenomenon rattling immigrant communities and alarming some in the criminal justice system.

"The police and the government say this is not happening, I am here to tell you this is a reality," Rodriguez told county board members, who held the hearing in a former courtroom undergoing renovation, with exposed broken blocks of concrete and metal conduits littering the floor.

ICE will not provide statistics on the number of immigrants taken from the Dane County Jail and deported, but with a 20 percent statewide increase in personnel over the past two years, 500 deportation proceedings were initiated on undocumented immigrants seized in Wisconsin last year, compared to 200 to 300 in the previous year, according to a spokesman.

Mahoney said he notifies ICE "because it is good policy for law enforcement agencies to work together, irrespective of personal beliefs."

He said that incoming inmates are asked about immigration status in the first place because federal law requires notification of several foreign consulates, as well as Mexico's request it be notified.

Law student Laurie Mlatawou referred to the Dane County Board Privacy Policy, which states that law enforcement officers will not ask about immigration status unless it is relevant to an investigation. Being in the United States without proper immigration documentation is a violation of civil law -- not the criminal law which it is the Sheriff's job to uphold, she said.

Cheryl Learn of Stoughton said the sheriff should report undocumented inmates to ICE. "This is not about nationality. The issue is that you are here illegally," she said, expressing her surprise that some people seem to think that's all right.

Bill Richardson of Middleton said that if Mahoney didn't report undocumented inmates, it would be a violation of his oath of office. "We are at war with the Islamofacsists who want to make sure all non-Muslims are deported, conquered or killed," he said.

Terese Tellez-Giron, a Dane County social worker, said the practice of reporting undocumented immigrants to ICE threatens years of good relations between immigrant communities and law enforcement authorities.

"If you don't stop working with ICE, you will lose the community trust," she said. The plight of children left in Dane County when a parent is deported also must be addressed, she said. "The community needs to protect them."

Criminal defense attorney Jessa Lutz said there is widespread concern in the judicial system, because the Sheriff Department's practice is forcing attorneys to recommend that their clients go to trial, in cases that previously would have been pled, to avoid conviction -- and likely deportation -- at any cost.

The increase in cases going to trial "will grind the system to a halt," Lutz said. "And it will be really expensive."

Marc Rosenthal urged county officials to remember that their actions take place in the context of the national climate and a "campaign terrifying in its deionization of immigrants."

"We need to take every opportunity to say we will not participate," Rosenthal said.

Mahoney has agreed to meet monthly with representatives of local immigrant communities to discuss the policy and on Monday promised review.

Kumar stressed today that the chief law enforcement officer of the county must follow Dane County law. If the practice isn't changed, he promised action would be taken.

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder

Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder

New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

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