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Mega-Church Pastor in Texas Backs McCain (John Hagee)
NY Times ^ | 2/27/08

Posted on 02/27/2008 7:44:16 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

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1 posted on 02/27/2008 7:44:20 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
I bet the dems try to have Hagee shut down.

Only democrats are allowed to use churches for politics.

2 posted on 02/27/2008 7:46:53 PM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Mr. Hagee, who argues that the United States must join Israel in a preemptive, biblically prophesized military strike against Iran that will lead to the second coming of Christ, praised Mr. McCain for his pro-Israel views.

This guy sounds dangerous. Of course, I think McCain is also dangerous.

3 posted on 02/27/2008 7:47:21 PM PST by Prokopton
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Mr. Hagee, who argues that the United States must join Israel in a preemptive, biblically prophesized military strike against Iran that will lead to the second coming of Christ

I don't suppose the author provides a source for that statement.

4 posted on 02/27/2008 7:48:14 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Prokopton

Ask yourself... Do you trust the NY Times to accurately interpret a statement of a Southern Christian?


5 posted on 02/27/2008 7:49:06 PM PST by Mr. Brightside ( Ronald Reagan Would Back McCain - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970504/posts)
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To: Mr. Brightside

“Praising” someone for their pro-Israel stance is hardly a political endorsement....


6 posted on 02/27/2008 7:50:39 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

If McCain vows to fulfill a biblically mandated nuclear attack on the NYTimes I might vote for him..bwahahahaha!


7 posted on 02/27/2008 7:50:54 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Mr. Brightside

Hagee is a wacko. If I was McCain, I wouldn’t be too eager or happy to associate myself with this guy.


8 posted on 02/27/2008 7:52:16 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Either McCain, Obama or Hillary will be the next President. Only one of them is Pro-Military, Pro-Israel, and Pro-Life. McCain is disappointing in many ways, but when compared to Obama/Clinton, the choice is a no-brainer.


9 posted on 02/27/2008 7:52:37 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Mr. Hagee, who argues that the United States must join Israel in a preemptive, biblically prophesized military strike against Iran that will lead to the second coming of Christ, praised Mr. McCain for his pro-Israel views.

Oh yeah, that comes from II Hezekiah 14:20-25, right?

10 posted on 02/27/2008 7:53:13 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I don't suppose the author provides a source for that statement.

Hagee has said as much, in so many words, on several occasions. Not always with Iran as the trigger point, but always with the US playing a prominent role in it's alliance with the State of Israel.

I, for one, have never found even the most oblique Scriptural reference to America in the end times. I suspect this means that by then we will have been rendered irrelevant, one way or another...

11 posted on 02/27/2008 7:55:12 PM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: LaineyDee
From the article:

Mr. Hagee also praised Mr. McCain for his “solid, pro-life voting record for the past 24 years.'’

12 posted on 02/27/2008 7:55:23 PM PST by Mr. Brightside ( Ronald Reagan Would Back McCain - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970504/posts)
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To: Prokopton

Maybe you ought to consider the source—he has never said that. he stated what he thought would happen, but the NYT wants to paint him as some kind of nut job...


13 posted on 02/27/2008 7:56:19 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: GregoTX
the choice is a no-brainer.

We have "no brainers" here, they attack McCain on a sickening daily basis. I hope they are happy with the alternative.

14 posted on 02/27/2008 7:56:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Mr. Hagee, who argues that the United States must join Israel in a preemptive, biblically prophesized military strike against Iran that will lead to the second coming of Christ, praised Mr. McCain for his pro-Israel views.

Hagee should know that Torah states that ALL nations will turn against Israel in acharit hayamim (end of days - end times), and that would include America.

He should pay attention to Isaiah 17 though. That seems to have have more of a chance of coming to pass in our lifetimes.
15 posted on 02/27/2008 7:58:49 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Ask yourself... Do you trust the NY Times to accurately interpret a statement of a Southern Christian?

Maybe you want to read Hagee's own book before you discount the Time's reporting.

BTW, I don't trust the Times and I have my concerns about "magapastors", Southern or otherwise.

16 posted on 02/27/2008 7:59:37 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: khnyny

Tell you the truth, Dylan Schrader has his problem in predictions. Before I threw rocks at Hagee, I would learn a little more.


17 posted on 02/27/2008 8:00:05 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: hiredhand

Personally, I never understood the facination that ‘absolute predestinationalists’ with politics.

If the nation is going to hell, the world is doomed and God is in absolute control, why bother?

(But that is for another discussion...)


18 posted on 02/27/2008 8:02:35 PM PST by Mr. Brightside ( Ronald Reagan Would Back McCain - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970504/posts)
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To: GregoTX
Only one of them is Pro-Military, Pro-Israel, and Pro-Life

If only he was also Pro-Constitution and Pro-U.S. Citizen I would feel much better.

19 posted on 02/27/2008 8:04:20 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Mr. Brightside

Is Mr. Hagee simply announcing his personal support for McCain as an individual? Or is his church making a political endorsement?


20 posted on 02/27/2008 8:04:23 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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21 posted on 02/27/2008 8:05:08 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Clintonfatigued
I think Hagee is smart enough to make a personal endorsement without entangling his church.
22 posted on 02/27/2008 8:05:37 PM PST by Mr. Brightside ( Ronald Reagan Would Back McCain - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970504/posts)
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To: Clintonfatigued

He made the endorsement from a hotel on a Wednesday night, not from his pulpit.


23 posted on 02/27/2008 8:06:24 PM PST by Mr. Brightside ( Ronald Reagan Would Back McCain - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970504/posts)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Hagee has recorded robo-calls for McCain that are going out all over the state of Texas now.

Hagee’s claims about how solid McCain is on abortion are just plain ignorant.

I can’t think of anyone that has done more damage to the cause of restoring respect for human life than McCain. No one has done more to empower the leftwing forces in the GOP that have thwarted decades of labor by pro-life conservatives.


24 posted on 02/27/2008 8:07:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (McCain supporters: "We have nothing to offer but fear itself!")
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To: Prokopton

Is Hagee awaiting his own 12th Iman?


25 posted on 02/27/2008 8:08:11 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: EternalVigilance

John McCain is far from perfect, but his record on human life issues is satisfactory.


26 posted on 02/27/2008 8:09:26 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Mr. Brightside
You make a good point! Why bother! :-) ...yeah...another discussion for certain! But you've caused me to wonder now WHY the likes of Hagee would be so interested in politics...at least enough to endorse the leftist, Juan McPain.

Perhaps it's so he can hope we'll nuke Iran. He really needs to study up. I know he's a world reknown end times scholar, but Persia (Iran) isn't even mentioned in the battle at the plain of Meggido (Armeggedon).

Everybody's got a stinking opinion about what's coming, and how to vote, or who to endorse.

I have an opinion as well, but mine is that we're simply going to get screwed as a nation...no matter what. At least it's shaping up that way!
27 posted on 02/27/2008 8:10:33 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Maybe to you. Not to me. Not even close. Every time McCain says anything that sounds the least bit pro-life, it’s with a knowing wink and a nod to his real friends, who are all pro-aborts.


28 posted on 02/27/2008 8:11:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance (McCain supporters: "We have nothing to offer but fear itself!")
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To: Mr. Brightside

KOOK ALERT!


29 posted on 02/27/2008 8:12:20 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ knews_hound)
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To: null and void

It won’t be the Demos who would do that but the Republican-”controlled” IRS!


30 posted on 02/27/2008 8:13:19 PM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: khnyny

You got THAT right!


31 posted on 02/27/2008 8:13:35 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ knews_hound)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Pastor Hagee is making his endorsement now to “get it over with” so he won’t have to struggle in dismay at what is happening until the fall campaign.


32 posted on 02/27/2008 8:14:11 PM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: EternalVigilance

How tragic that at least half of our “prolife” people aren’t really prolife at all but are manipulating conservative voters. And, to borrow from Reagan, they have all BEEN BORN!


33 posted on 02/27/2008 8:15:22 PM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: hiredhand
ALL Nations will turn against.... Oh great that really makes me wanna yell more so "NOOOOOO !" thinking about the possibility of Spike Lee Obama becoming the next POTUS.
34 posted on 02/27/2008 8:16:41 PM PST by Global2010 (Election 2008 like playin Shoots and Ladders (ages 5 and up))
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To: hiredhand
"I know he's a world reknown end times scholar.."

That's probably the funniest thing I've heard all year so far, and that's going some!

35 posted on 02/27/2008 8:18:10 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ knews_hound)
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To: Prokopton

Hagee aint dangerous partner. He’s a straight shooter. Take the biblical reference out, and he’s preaching the same thing we are on this site.


36 posted on 02/27/2008 8:19:33 PM PST by Hammerhead
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If only he was also Pro-Constitution and Pro-U.S. Citizen I would feel much better.

Me too Prokpton. Im on board, but not excited about it.

37 posted on 02/27/2008 8:24:47 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
I know Hagee. He’s holding his nose just like the rest of us.
38 posted on 02/27/2008 8:26:26 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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Hagee is no more dangerous than you. He specializes in Biblical Prophecy and the End Times. He is mostly right on. I’ve read several of his books.
39 posted on 02/27/2008 8:28:19 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: khnyny

Well that’s your opinion. His preachings of the Bible and Bible prophecy is right on.


40 posted on 02/27/2008 8:30:21 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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Source?

Tee-Hee, that is a drive by media throw in, like a Mulligan or a Gimmie..

Hagee is really big on Evangelical/Israel ties, so McCain must have strong pro Israel positions that we never hear about in the Drive Thru Media..


41 posted on 02/27/2008 8:31:36 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Hammerhead

Absolutely. Nukes were built on the promise of reducing the need for large American forces, among other selling points.

We reduced the forces, but have not adequately relied on nucs to guarantee the freedom of our allies. Certainly a case can be made for them in some parts of the world. Sure there would be a political backlash and gnashing of teeth. That is why we have more than a few. Calm the angry crowds. Use em or lose em.

Hamas??? Talibani?? Jihadis gone wild? Problem fixed.

Use them or lose their utility.


42 posted on 02/27/2008 8:31:41 PM PST by petertare (--)
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To: null and void

You are right, and it all starts with the new incoming President, whoever it may be. (not much difference anyway)


43 posted on 02/27/2008 8:32:18 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: fish hawk
not much difference anyway

Not in the important things, anyway.

44 posted on 02/27/2008 8:38:35 PM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: fish hawk
Hagee claims that Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. Look it up, the info and the nonsense that this guy propagates is out there.
45 posted on 02/27/2008 8:43:26 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Matchett-PI

I should have quantified that with saying that I read it written on a bathroom wall.


46 posted on 02/27/2008 8:44:53 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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Hagee claims that Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah.

Odd, so do the Jews...

47 posted on 02/27/2008 8:49:52 PM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: fish hawk
How long can we be expected to hold our noses before we die from asphyxiation?
48 posted on 02/27/2008 9:08:47 PM PST by isrul
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To: khnyny
Hagee claims that Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. Look it up, the info and the nonsense that this guy propagates is out there.


Concerning your statement, I would be interested in your sources. I don't have the time to read all his sermons, nor his books. I am not a fan, so please don't ask me to "force feed" hours of Hagee. I would be interested to know how you came to this conclusion. Thanks
49 posted on 02/27/2008 9:09:32 PM PST by mstar
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To: khnyny

Pastor Hagee believes in GOD. He believes in the Scripture. He believes in helping people understand this. I believe he is right.


50 posted on 02/27/2008 9:13:03 PM PST by eyedigress
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