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Ricin Possibly Found at Las Vegas Motel
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Posted on 02/29/2008 3:14:39 AM PST by maquiladora

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To: Diogenesis; All

I find it rather obnoxious (and dim-witted) that the FR mods locked the other link to this article that was posted in Breaking News. This story is from AP, btw, and the other is from Fox news.

I would think this story is important enough to actually be in Breaking News. (rolls eyes) Move along folks, nothing to see here.


21 posted on 02/29/2008 6:32:15 AM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Very strange that the MSM just brushes over this stuff all the time. What ever happened to the Anthrax case?


22 posted on 02/29/2008 6:32:36 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: girlangler

My son and his wife are there right now. Kind of concerning.


23 posted on 02/29/2008 6:33:21 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: maquiladora

Only one purpose to extract ricin from
the Castor Bean and that is to kill someone. This stuff is very potent and requires ingestion or injection of less than a mg to kill an adult. Just another busted terrorist (aka mass murderers of innocent people, egs jack the ripper, john gacy, OBL or jeff Dahmer) plot most of the media will ignore to avoid crediting the Bush adminstration for protecting the country.


24 posted on 02/29/2008 6:36:17 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Rick.Donaldson
“There’s NO use for ricin other than killing people.”

I just googled ‘ricin medical uses’and found this on the CDC Site:

Ricin has some potential medical uses, such as bone marrow transplants and cancer treatment (to kill cancer cells).

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin#Potential_medicinal_use

25 posted on 02/29/2008 6:38:11 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: CindyDawg; All

Here is another link to the story:

http://www.keyetv.com/news/world/story.aspx?content_id=ce2557a3-0f80-4cc0-a70d-7c97f467e261

Very scary stuff:

“According to the CDC, as little as 500 micrograms, or the size of the head of a pin can kill a human. It can take between six and eight hours for someone exposed to the chemical to show signs of contamination.”


26 posted on 02/29/2008 6:38:37 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Diogenesis

Hmmmm. The condo we stay in is on Harmon. Too close for comfort.


27 posted on 02/29/2008 6:39:06 AM PST by pbear8 (The innocent cry out to God)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Busted, my a$$. Who knows where this person went and if they have more of the ricin? Imho, HS better get their best and brightest on this case ASAP.


28 posted on 02/29/2008 6:39:28 AM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: PissAndVinegar; Rick.Donaldson

Somehow missed your second sentence - I just told you something you already know - duh me ;-)


29 posted on 02/29/2008 6:40:13 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: tiki

Hopefully it was contained to that one motel.

Will be praying for their safety.


30 posted on 02/29/2008 6:41:44 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: PissAndVinegar; Rick.Donaldson

grr - 4th sentence I mean - I’m leaving to go get coffee.


31 posted on 02/29/2008 6:41:55 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: penelopesire

What concerns me is that LE are talking about medical use. I doubt they just knew that. I’m in the medical field and didn’t. I knew about how dangerous a bio-terrorism weapon it could be though through manditory inservices. Who fed them this other possible scenerio?


32 posted on 02/29/2008 6:42:31 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: girlangler

We returned from Vegas after a 4 day stay last week and have been sick with a bad case of flu for the last five days.

Onboard the SW Airlines flight to Chicago we sat behind a lone muslim man who was coughing and hacking big time. He ignored the flight attendents’ request to turn off his cell phone and buckle his seat belt for takeoff.


33 posted on 02/29/2008 6:44:10 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: khnyny

ah, the best and brightest are on it...of course the politicians are on it too....guess who is going to help the people and who is not going to help the people.....I know that was cynical....but I have my reasons for thinking this way.


34 posted on 02/29/2008 6:45:30 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Ricin is a potent biological toxin (toxic protein) derived from part of the “waste” mash when beans from the castor plant (Ricinus communis) are processed during manufacture of castor oil.

Ricin is a stable substance, affected very little by extreme conditions, such as very hot or very cold temperatures.

Ricin can be in the form of a powder, a mist, a pellet, or it can be dissolved in water or weak acid. It is water-soluble, odorless, tasteless, and stable under ambient conditions.

Depending on the route of exposure (such as injection or inhalation), as little as 500 µ of ricin could be enough to kill an adult. A greater amount would be needed to cause death if ricin were ingested.

The extent of manifestations of ricin poisoning in humans depends on the amount of ricin to which a person was exposed, route of exposure, and extent of organ involvement.

Significant exposure to ricin would result in a relatively rapid, progressive worsening of symptoms over approximately 4 to 36 hours.

Death may occur within 36 hours of exposure. If death has not occurred by 5 days from exposure, the victim usually recovers.

It would take a deliberate act to manufacture ricin to poison people.

There have been several instances of ricin procurement for use as a terrorist or criminal weapon.

As a chemical weapon, ricin may be dispersed as a mist or powder, used to poison water or to contaminate food, or injected as a liquid into a person's body.

No antidote exists for ricin.

The most important factor is to avoid exposure. If exposure cannot be avoided, then the most important factors are to get ricin off or out of the body as quickly as possible, and to provide supportive medical care. Ricin poisoning represents a potential public health emergency and should be reported to public health agencies and the regional poison control center.

35 posted on 02/29/2008 6:46:57 AM PST by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: khnyny
Yep. I doubt this stuff is cheap and someone is in big trouble if they left it behind. My concern is that what they found might be residual . Oh well...LE have thought they have found this stuff before and the preliminary tests were wrong. Maybe this will turn out to be harmless stuff too.
36 posted on 02/29/2008 6:47:14 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I can’t open the link...what is the medical scenario? Putting my tinfoil on, but this is Leap Day...and the ‘special’ calendar days tend to make me a little nervous. That and 6 to 8 hours is the contamination window. Wow. This is scary.


37 posted on 02/29/2008 6:47:52 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Michelle Obama: this seasons Teresa Heinz.)
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To: girlangler

The thread seems locked? Oh well.

There was no mention of the room’s occupant in the story. Do they have him/her in custody, or is someone walking around with another bag full of ricin?


38 posted on 02/29/2008 6:48:36 AM PST by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: KeyLargo
Yall might want to get checked. If it’s more than the flu then he can be tracked down, hopefully. Why would passengers
and staff put up with this though? He should have been removed for the attitude alone.
39 posted on 02/29/2008 6:50:34 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: girlangler
Uh oh, left out "other"--should read, "The other thread seems locked."
40 posted on 02/29/2008 6:50:49 AM PST by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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