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Some Atlanta police welcome law that allows seizure of illegal immigrants' cars
Atlanta Journal and Constitution ^ | 02/29/08 | MARY LOU PICKEL

Posted on 03/01/2008 5:57:33 AM PST by georgiabelle

A proposal that would allow police to seize vehicles from illegal immigrants could help remove egregious drivers from the roads, some metro police say.

"I think it has the possibility of being a good thing," said DeKalb County Police Department spokesman Officer J.T. Ware. The seizure powers might be best used to focus on habitual traffic offenders, he said.

The proposed law, House Bill 978, was approved by the state House of representatives this week. It still must pass the senate. The measure would allow police to seize cars of illegal immigrants who are involved in accidents or violate traffic laws.

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aliens; atlanta; illegals; immigration
Didn't see this posted. I'm not real good with search. But be sure to read the articles that are linked at the bottom of article. Maybe Georgia is trying. Anything is better than nothing.
1 posted on 03/01/2008 5:57:34 AM PST by georgiabelle
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To: georgiabelle

Hope this spreads to Alabama.


2 posted on 03/01/2008 5:59:46 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: georgiabelle

Kudos to Georgia...sure are acting more pro-American towards the illegal alien problem than Florida is right now...


3 posted on 03/01/2008 5:59:59 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Anyone Notice....But It Is Only The Low-Rated Talk Radio Hosts That Support McCain)
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To: georgiabelle

“Some” Atlanta police? Are the others in open revolt against the local government?


4 posted on 03/01/2008 6:02:38 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Hmmm ~ means these junkers get hauled away for free. They'll pick up on buying them back at the auctions.

As a practical matter this will turn into a subsidy of, if not a civil right, for illegal aliens.

5 posted on 03/01/2008 6:05:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: georgiabelle

Sorry, but does anyone here really think that vehicle seizures have anything to do with anything but profit for the seizers?


6 posted on 03/01/2008 6:08:15 AM PST by Grut
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To: muawiyah

I get what you mean, but “subsidy” is not the word you’re looking for.


7 posted on 03/01/2008 6:08:25 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: muawiyah

This law would have come in handy when an illegal driving a construction company van hit my daughter’s car. If the company lost the van and all the tools, maybe they would think twice about hiring illegals in the first place.


8 posted on 03/01/2008 6:09:14 AM PST by Sender (Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.)
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To: georgiabelle
Wouldn't help much in the Upper Midwest. Not enough traction in the snow.


9 posted on 03/01/2008 6:12:33 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: georgiabelle

now to that list, the fence could become irrelevant if we add:

seize drugs
seize pets
seize pension
seize money
seize stocks & bonds
seize id cards, licenses, etc
seize boats
seize homes
seize ....see the pattern!


10 posted on 03/01/2008 6:17:02 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: 1rudeboy
“Some” Atlanta police? Are the others in open revolt against the local government?

Maybe the others need their illegal familia to have rides to get to work and send denero back to Mamasita.

11 posted on 03/01/2008 6:17:12 AM PST by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yeah, subsidy. Taxpayers will pay to haul away the wreck.


12 posted on 03/01/2008 6:18:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: georgiabelle
This should be a federal law, starting Monday.
13 posted on 03/01/2008 6:18:54 AM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: muawiyah
And the sale of the car will recoup the cost (in most cases). Not a subsidy.

I can't imagine how anyone can think the towing of an operable motor vehicle as a function of law enforcement is a "subsidy" because an illegal alien may purchase the vehicle later.

14 posted on 03/01/2008 6:20:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: georgiabelle
The Feds are leaving it up to state and local governments to take care of this illegal alien invasion.
15 posted on 03/01/2008 6:23:17 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: georgiabelle

I missed the part where they send them back to their country of origin. Fine, take their cars, but send them back to where they belong. The authorities may take their car, “if they do something illegal”. If we have any remaining sovereignty or a scintilla of respect for our own laws, they are already doing something illegal by being here.

We have been sold out, pure and simple. Whatever segment of the population wasn’t ignorant, was apathetic. What it means is 20-30 million more citizens that were above the law and could not be burdened with process or rule of law. Then, the rush for the border with 20-30 million more pouring across unsecured borders. Then the fit will hit the shan, but you can’t turn back time. The avalanche started years ago and many ignored it because they weren’t being buried and lacked the foresight to imagine a day when they would.

As you stated, at least Georgia is trying but I think we need to demand that our leaders do more than “try” and quit playing footsies with illegal invaders.


16 posted on 03/01/2008 6:40:33 AM PST by WildcatClan (Real Marxism you can believe in. Yes, we can. Si, se puede.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Because, otherwise, the illegal alien would have to pay to tow his own car away. Not likely you are going to get him to pay to tow YOUR car away eh?!


17 posted on 03/01/2008 6:49:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: georgiabelle

Not only should they seize their illegally driven vehicles, they should auction them off and use the proceeds to pay for a one way bus or plane ride from which they came.


18 posted on 03/01/2008 6:56:05 AM PST by RU88
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To: georgiabelle

Here in California we have strict smog standards for our cars. If a car can’t pass the smog test you can’t renew your registration or sell it, it becomes near useless. The Invaders buy them up, get counterfeit registration and the cars are disposable.


19 posted on 03/01/2008 6:58:11 AM PST by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

This must be a good law because Archbishop Gregory and Bishop Boland oppose it!

These 2 clergy are strong proponents of protecting illegal aliens who commit violation of the laws!


20 posted on 03/01/2008 6:59:24 AM PST by ethics
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To: georgiabelle

I am all for it if they are illegal and have false documents on them.


21 posted on 03/01/2008 7:00:03 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: muawiyah
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you don't live in a city. I suspect you don't even live near a city (or a dictionary, for that matter).
22 posted on 03/01/2008 7:12:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Let's see ~ is this a city?

Not exactly ~ the Commonwealth of Virginia classifies it as an Urban County, which is the same as being a city but the state builds and maintains the roads and sidewalks (a peculiarity of this state and Hawaii).

If I get up on my rooftop I can actually see the United States Capitol Dome.

Can you?

23 posted on 03/01/2008 7:16:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: georgiabelle
Be careful with this. We already have it with drugs. An innocent person unknowingly involved or associated could be in danger of losing their possessions including a home. The more our government can take the more they will. If these funds were to go 100% to victims I wonder what the interest would be.
24 posted on 03/01/2008 7:31:54 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: muawiyah

In Denver they just steal what they want.
When it dies or is otherwise lost, go steal another.


25 posted on 03/01/2008 7:39:14 AM PST by duffus
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To: muawiyah
I wouldn't call an urban county a city, but nevertheless my crack was unjustified and I take it back. Your reasoning appears to be: if the car is impounded (for immigration status), and if the driver fails to reclaim it (again, immigration status), and if the auction price does not cover the costs, and if the purchaser is an illegal alien, then the program amounts to a subsidy to illegal immigrants.

And that is disregarding the benefit to society of having the car impounded in the first place.

26 posted on 03/01/2008 7:48:03 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Haddit
Imagine going North on the I5 right there where it splits to the I805 on Wednesday morning about 7:30 AM without any cars driven by illegal aliens.

Why you could go 90 MPH without fear!

27 posted on 03/01/2008 7:49:24 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: 1rudeboy
Have you seen the kind of beater cars these guys drive? Once they reach maximum satori in real time (and the bumpers fall off) they just dump 'em in the road anyway.

Nobody sells those for anything but scrap.

28 posted on 03/01/2008 7:50:51 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

That’s another “if.” Care to add more?


29 posted on 03/01/2008 8:14:09 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

NO “if” there at all. There are so many illegals around there are hardly enough beater cars for them. Lot of them in this area ride bicycles.


30 posted on 03/01/2008 8:21:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Ok, so if the car is "worth" nothing more than scrap value, and someone purchases it at auction, how is that a "subsidy?"
31 posted on 03/01/2008 9:35:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

It got towed, and maybe even cleaned up a bit ~ and never underestimate the ability of an illegal alien to fix up a worthless beater car so that it runs ~ kinda.


32 posted on 03/01/2008 10:11:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: CRBDeuce

If we aren’t going to deport them, than sieze everything they got. They will leave soon enough if we keep at it. What we sieze (proceeds of a crime called illegal immigration!) it pays something back.


33 posted on 03/01/2008 11:13:02 AM PST by CalifChris
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To: georgiabelle

I got a better idea. Seize the illegals just long enough to deport them.


34 posted on 03/01/2008 9:14:36 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

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35 posted on 03/03/2008 3:30:48 PM PST by Edie
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To: WildcatClan; georgiabelle
There's a legal problem here.

Foreign nationals (which is what illegal aliens are) are not prevented from owning anything in the US. In order to seize their property, they would have to be charged with a crime, and tried. They are street legal if they have a Mexican Drivers License. No license? Well they can be tried for that and the car would remain forfeit, since as illegals they can't get one, hopefully. I don't believe the states can try them for illegal entry ... or punish them for it. That's a Fed job ... which they won't do.

Seizing their automobiles is probably only really legal if the vehicle is held as bond, pending trial and a guilty verdict for something.

This is a bit of a legal thicket ... brought about by the Federal Government's refusal to enforce the law and guard our borders. Illegal entry is a misdemeanor and a Federal Offense.

Let the Feds start trying them for illegal entry. Deport them when caught. Let them take their cars back to Mexico, or wherever. They can drive home.

36 posted on 03/04/2008 9:45:03 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Nobama08. Get me a general for President and Steele or Blackwell for VP.)
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To: georgiabelle

“Hope is kindled”


37 posted on 03/04/2008 9:46:37 AM PST by TheCause (Let the lord of the black land come forth...let justice be done upon him!)
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