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An Open Letter to Hillary Conservatives
Poe.com ^ | February 29, 2008 | Richard Lawrence Poe

Posted on 03/01/2008 7:15:57 AM PST by Richard Poe

by Richard Lawrence Poe
Friday, February 29, 2008
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I ADDRESS this column to that new breed of conservative, the Hillarycon. These are conservatives who support Hillary Clinton. Below I describe the three types of Hillarycon and explain why each is wrong.

TYPE 1: The Innocent Hillarycon

The first type is the most well-meaning, but possibly the most deluded. Innocent Hillarycons view Hillary as a weaker candidate than Obama, and thus seek to help Hillary win the nomination.

They are wrong. Hillary's weakness is an illusion. She is playing rope-a-dope with Obama. By hanging on the ropes, and taking Obama's punches, Hillary saves her strength for the knockout punch.

Rest assured, the knockout will come. No matter how many primaries Obama wins, Hillary will beat him at the convention. Backroom intrigue is her specialty.

Hillary will bully, bribe and blackmail the superdelegates to vote for her. She will claim disqualified delegates from Michigan and Florida. She will steal state delegates through litigation. At the appointed time, Hillary's media operatives will ambush Obama with allegations of corruption, immorality and extremism.

Hillary has powerful patrons in all the right places. She will win the nomination.

The real purpose of Hillary's rope-a-dope is to lull Republicans into complacency. In this, she has largely succeeded.

Conservative talk radio jocks have lost interest in Hillary. On February 11, Sean Hannity suspended his "Stop Hillary Express" campaign, arguing that Obama poses a greater threat. Rush Limbaugh told listeners on February 26, "the longer Hillary can stay in this the better for us." He urged Republicans to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary in the primaries, "to keep that party at war with itself."

Hillary's rope-a-dope has paralyzed conservative book publishers, none of whom are assigning Hillary exposés. They fear she will drop from the race before their books hit the shelves.

"When I get anti-Hillary proposals, I tell them, ‘Just wait and see if she becomes president,’ ’’ says Marji Ross, president of Regnery Publishing. Regnery's 2004 release Unfit for Command torpedoed John Kerry's campaign.

No Unfit for Command will dog Hillary this election season. It is too late to assign such a research-intensive book. Hillary has outmaneuvered the dirt-diggers.

TYPE 2: The Crafty Hillarycon

The second type of Hillarycon supports her for Machiavellian reasons. A Hillary presidency would teach Americans a lesson, they say. Her extremist policies would shock the nation, driving voters into the conservative camp.

Nonsense. This is a formula for suicide. As president, Hillary would liquidate conservatives, unleashing the fury of America's counterterror apparatus against us.

Most vulnerable are volunteer groups like the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, which patrols the Mexican border to stop illegal crossings. Minutemen were outraged when President Bush called them "vigilantes". But Bush never hampered their operations. President Hillary would handle them differently. She would declare the Minutemen "domestic terrorists" and send them to Gitmo for waterboarding.

If this sounds farfetched, consider the counterterror policies of the last Clinton regime. Barely a month after Bill Clinton took office in January 1993, Muslim jihadists detonated a bomb beneath the World Trade Center, killing six and injuring thousands. The Clintons responded by declaring war on "domestic terrorists".

Only two days after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing -- on February 28, 1993 -- the Clintons laid siege to the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas. New York Governor Mario Cuomo told NBC on March 1 that our biggest security threat was, “Americans killing one another with guns". Attorney General Janet Reno declared on March 13 that her number one priority would be protecting abortion clinics from terror attacks. Then came Project Megiddo, an FBI program targeting rightwing Christians.

TYPE 3: The Spiteful Hillarycon

The third type of Hillarycon supports Hillary out of spite. These are ideological purists whose hatred for President Bush has metastasized into hatred for all things Republican. Since they must vote Democrat or not vote at all, they choose Hillary, claiming she is more "conservative" than the rest.

Spiteful Hillarycons are the worst of the lot, because they are phonies. They know very well that Hillary has not a "conservative" bone in her body. But then, neither have the Spiteful Hillarycons.

What they share with Hillary is anger and vengefulness. They would gladly cast their votes for Mao Tse-Tung, if they thought it would vex President Bush. Their motives are psychological, not political.

This then is the Hillarycon agenda. It is neither a Republican agenda, nor a conservative agenda, nor a winning agenda. It is Hillary's agenda. Surely we can do better than this.

Richard Lawrence Poe Richard Lawrence Poe is a contributing editor to Newsmax, an award-winning journalist and a New York Times bestselling author. His latest book is The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Siezed Control of the Democratic Party, co-written with David Horowitz.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alinsky; delphitechnique; gramsci; hillary; hillaryscandals; machiavelli; socialengineering
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1 posted on 03/01/2008 7:15:59 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Jim Robinson; doug from upland; Alamo-Girl; Grampa Dave; Peach; nutmeg; isom35; clyde260; ...

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF of my Hillary ping list.

2 posted on 03/01/2008 7:16:38 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe

Meanwhile, I support the conservative still...Ron Paul. When I get the opportunity to vote, that’s who gets my pick.


3 posted on 03/01/2008 7:18:37 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Richard Poe

Obama seems to be Soros’ dog in the fight.


4 posted on 03/01/2008 7:19:08 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Richard Poe

So do they hold their meetings in a large place, like an elevator?


5 posted on 03/01/2008 7:19:39 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Richard Poe

Add me, please..


6 posted on 03/01/2008 7:21:20 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: gusopol3
Obama seems to be Soros’ dog in the fight.

No "seems" about it. Soros buys weak politicians he can own outright. His support for Obama goes back a ways.

7 posted on 03/01/2008 7:22:06 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Gondring

Yeah I’m off the Grand Old Plantation too. My vote won’t be for Paul but it will go to a conservative.


8 posted on 03/01/2008 7:24:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Richard Poe

This is a good analysis.

1) I want Hillary out NOW, not November. There’s plenty of time to work on Obama - he’s a very weak candidate.

2) Too risky! Too many issues we need to deal with to sit back and hope the Dems mess them up. There’s no certainty that people will turn back to the Republicans.

3) I voted for Reagan twice, and I’ve resigned myself that he might be the most conservative candidate I ever vote for. So I will make the best decision given the choice I have.


9 posted on 03/01/2008 7:26:53 AM PST by NRPM
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To: Gondring

I’m with you. When my state’s primary FINALLY comes up in May - I will vote a straight Republican ticket - but I will vote for Ron Paul instead of John McCain. Ron Paul is the most conservative candidate still on the ballot.

I will not submit, but will send a message with my vote. McCain must be stopped before the convention - it is still not too late to get rid of him.


10 posted on 03/01/2008 7:28:43 AM PST by alicewonders (The Republican Party - gettin' stupider and stupider.)
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To: Richard Poe

You’re right to point out that Obama is not inevitable. That is the media game being played to derail Hillary. On the other hand, you have some who are wise enough to use the arguments between them to point out the character flaws in both. The more you can make Obama lovers hate Hillary and vice versa, the easier it will be to take both down, which is necessary if they decide to run as a team.


11 posted on 03/01/2008 7:30:10 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Richard Poe
Hillary conservatives? How do you spell oxymoron? I think Cain is far left and billery are even farther that way.
12 posted on 03/01/2008 7:30:43 AM PST by mountainlyons
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To: Gondring; SpinnerWebb
Meanwhile, I support the conservative still...Ron Paul. When I get the opportunity to vote, that’s who gets my pick.

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Gondring, Sancho Panza has left the building

13 posted on 03/01/2008 7:35:40 AM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: Gondring
Gondring writes: I support the conservative still...Ron Paul.

I used to admire Ron Paul. But his position on Iraq has made me realize how little I really know about him. His reasons for opposing the war make no sense to me.

14 posted on 03/01/2008 7:37:12 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 03/01/2008 7:39:22 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: NRPM
I want Hillary out NOW, not November. There’s plenty of time to work on Obama - he’s a very weak candidate.

Crossed over to the Texas dim primary last Tuesday and, clothespin firmly attached to my nose, voted for Hussein.

Getting Hildabeast and The Stain® off the stage of American politics is job 1 right now.

16 posted on 03/01/2008 7:41:10 AM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: Richard Poe

Sounds like an oxymoron to me.


17 posted on 03/01/2008 7:42:17 AM PST by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: Richard Poe

Live Prayer Thread re: Prosecution of Hillary Clinton (02/03/2006)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1571060/posts


18 posted on 03/01/2008 7:50:14 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Richard Poe

Worth a Poe Bump!


19 posted on 03/01/2008 7:50:23 AM PST by JDoutrider (Obama intends to enslave you... muslims do that.)
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To: Richard Poe

BTTT


20 posted on 03/01/2008 7:51:36 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Richard Poe
Very insightful, Mr.Poe. It occurs to me that’Bush Derangement Syndrome’ is also contagious to some Conservatives.
21 posted on 03/01/2008 7:58:32 AM PST by jabonz08
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To: Richard Poe

Interesting story. I believe i’ve seen all three types right here on FR. Always some convoluted excuse to vote like and for a dem. Have you written the story of the Obama-cons yet? That’s a whole other story even more convoluted than the Hillary-cons. I cast my vote in the Texas primaries yesterday, the last day of early voting, and DID NOT vote for either of those two lib/socialists. Trying to pick candidates i felt would do less harm to Texas and America was tough but i felt pretty good about it.


22 posted on 03/01/2008 8:07:30 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Richard Poe
An Open Letter to Hillary Conservatives

Isn't this a bit like writing to Santa Claus?

23 posted on 03/01/2008 8:09:32 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Richard Poe

If they support Hillary they are not conservatives.


24 posted on 03/01/2008 8:14:00 AM PST by calex59
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To: Richard Poe
Excellent analysis. We ensure Hillary’s election at our peril and the peril of generations of Americans, your kids and mine. It will be very difficult to reverse the damage she (or Obama) does. Here’s a partial list of what to expect under either Hillary or Obama:

Premature retreat from Iraq
Evidence of US weakness
Expanded Iranian influence
Iranian nuclear weapons
Possible attack on Israel
Costly attacks on US assets
Possible contamination of US cities
Involvement in Darfur and elsewhere
Interventions without vital national interests
Effective and real increases in taxes
Continued slump in public education
Unrealistic and costly energy mandates
Increased spending on global warming
Universal healthcare incl. 33m illegals
Undercutting drug patents and other companies
Less pharmaceuticals brought to market
Windfall profit taxes and other disincentives
Price controls and resultant key shortages
Trial lawyer suits/shakedowns destroy firms
Job losses from antibusiness legislation/suits
State gay marriage laws extended nationwide
Partial birth abortion and funding promoted
Removal of bankruptcy protections for pro-lifers
Bans and/or restrictive registrations on all guns
Restrictive use provisions on private land
More land designated as national reserves
Increased surveillance/audits of GOP opponents
Corrupt campaign and fundraising practices
Sale of pardons to Friends of Hillary (or Obama)
Criminal prosecution of terrorists, esp. domestic
Catch & release treatment of illegals restored
Elevation by press to untouchable status
Muffled criticism of government initiatives
Increased voter fraud by scuttling ID programs

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25 posted on 03/01/2008 8:22:32 AM PST by OESY
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To: Richard Poe; Congressman Billybob; Buckhead; Nick Danger; Alamo-Girl; The Shrew; backhoe; ...


PING!

Latest News on Hillary Scandals


26 posted on 03/01/2008 8:25:41 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Richard Poe; SandRat
Minutemen were outraged when President Bush called them "vigilantes". But Bush never hampered their operations. President Hillary would handle them differently. She would declare the Minutemen "domestic terrorists" and send them to Gitmo for waterboarding.

If this sounds farfetched, consider the counterterror policies of the last Clinton regime. Barely a month after Bill Clinton took office in January 1993, Muslim jihadists detonated a bomb beneath the World Trade Center, killing six and injuring thousands. The Clintons responded by declaring war on "domestic terrorists".

ping

27 posted on 03/01/2008 8:26:14 AM PST by GOPJ (Do the editors of the L.A. Times realize that illegal immigration is, you know, illegal? Patterico)
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To: Richard Poe

1. I think you’re giving Hillary too much credit. I don’t think she’ll win the nomination - even the Dems (some) are sick of her. From what I’m hearing she’s going to drop out Wed if Texas doesn’t go her way. If she drops out now and we win in Nov. she’ll be the presumptive nominee in 2012. If we want to take her out once and for all she needs to get the nomination this year otherwise she’ll be back.

2. Obama will make a worse President than Hillary. They believe the same things, but Obama has the charisma to get it passed through Congress.


28 posted on 03/01/2008 8:27:46 AM PST by loreldan (Can't vote for Obama, so rah rah McCain I guess)
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To: Richard Poe; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; nicmarlo; calcowgirl; Squantos; ...

Author of It Takes Ft. Marcy Park undead--breaking

29 posted on 03/01/2008 8:28:29 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Richard Poe
Agree 100%. The idea of Republicans voting for Hillary Clinton in Texas and Ohio is super idiotic. If they give her a huge win in Texas and Ohio she is going to be the nominee by the end of next week and without any fight at the convention. If she wins, she should win by little margin so Obama will go to the convention with a large delegates lead and in this case she will be forced to steal the nomination via Super Delegates plus seating Michigan and Florida delegates, which will lead to the huge fight at the convention and the break up of the democrats for many years to cone.
30 posted on 03/01/2008 8:28:43 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Richard Poe
Drinking Coffee I agree with Poe on much of his argument except his main theme.  Under no circumstances is Clinton in the position she finds herself on purpose. She's where she is because she underestimated this guy from Chicago and the machine that's backing him.  Obama has raised a phenomenal amount of money. When the February numbers come out his total is going to be somewhere North of $185 million.

I certainly haven't written her off and for the reasons that Poe points out. The Clinton machine is tough, it's big, it has all the right people and it's ruthless.

Obama is selling hope and it's working thus far.  People with common sense of course realize that it's easy to sell hope... hope is not a commodity... hope is not a service... hope is not a food.  Anyone can have all the hope they can handle without the help of Obama and they can have it for free.  Obama's hope comes with an expensive price tag.

Right now is seems that every time Obama does something that appears to work, the rest of the pack jumps on the same bandwagon rather than taking a deep breath, analyzing what this man is really selling and then asking themselves the simple question we all ask ourselves with every other purchase we make.  IS IT WORTH IT?

Hope is what con-men sell!  And someone had better start explaining it to the American public.
31 posted on 03/01/2008 8:30:18 AM PST by HawaiianGecko
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To: HawaiianGecko
HawaiianGecko writes: "Under no circumstances is Clinton in the position she finds herself on purpose. She's where she is because she underestimated this guy from Chicago and the machine that's backing him."

Nothing would please me more than to be wrong about Hillary and her rope-a-dope strategy. Indeed, I pray that I am wrong.

What bothers me, though, is that the Obama "machine" to which you refer does not appear to be independent of Hillary's machine. Both candidates draw support from the "shadow party" of non-profit front groups created and led by George Soros.

Of course, it is possible that Soros betrayed Hillary and threw her overboard in favor of Obama, at some point. Maybe. But that seems a slender reed on which to hang one's hopes.

It seems more likely that the "shadow party" is enacting some sort of elaborate charade. And that worries me very much.

32 posted on 03/01/2008 8:49:28 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe

I’m the fourth kind.

I’ll probably vote for Hillary, as McCain already has it, and I’d like to see Hillary have to spend every nickle that her machine has raised on her hideous campaign, just to be sure that she can’t steal the unspent amount, and hide it in Switzerland.


33 posted on 03/01/2008 8:59:20 AM PST by aShepard
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To: Richard Poe
The Queen of Hearts is fixin to off with some heads..
Maybe; the Mad Hatters since he's stolen the word "CHANGE"...
The Mouse is having Tea with Liberman, Kennedy, and George Soros as a conservative liberal..

And the Cheshire Cat has a few more months as President..
The Mole Rats are following Oprahs piping and the White Rabbit is late for a very important date..

What the hell is America SMOKING..

34 posted on 03/01/2008 9:01:21 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Richard Poe

I’m certainly not writing hillary off until the fat lady sings. But I wouldn’t underestimate Obama either.

As for our duty to vote, we have been put into an impossible position. Hillary is a menace. Obama is a menace. And McCain is a menace.

All in different ways, but all extremely serious. McCain is a little better than the other two, but the problem is that if he wins it will destroy the party and the conservative movement, and he will be in a stronger position to pass malign legislation than a Democrat would be.

There are no easy answers here. The Republican Party is on course to commit suicide no matter which of the three wins, and perhaps to bring the country down with it, given the illegal amnesty problem and the Islamic problem and the Chinese and Russian problems, not to speak of a looming world-wide economic catastrophe on the horizon.

Our country has its back against the wall, and we have been given three impossible choices.


35 posted on 03/01/2008 9:03:43 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Richard Poe
I agree with writer Poe's healthy fear of Hillary.

She hides her diabolic end-game strategies as well as she conceals her uber-Marxism.

Those among us who would vote against (ugh) McCain in order to settle a score with the RNC or the primary voters will regret their shortsightedness as the jackboot of a Hillary regime kicks apart the foundations of our Republic and our way of life.

36 posted on 03/01/2008 9:14:04 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Richard Poe

Excellent and thanks for the ping.


37 posted on 03/01/2008 9:16:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Cicero
Cicero writes: "Hillary is a menace. Obama is a menace. And McCain is a menace."

I do not believe that McCain will arrest conservative activists. The Democrats will.

As long as conservatives are free to organize at the grassroots level, there is hope. We don't need a conservative president. We just need a president who will leave us free to organize.

The Minutemen exist because Bush tolerated their existence. The Democrats will not tolerate such groups. They will prosecute conservative activists and throw many of our leaders in jail.

38 posted on 03/01/2008 9:19:45 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe
Drinking Coffee "It seems more likely that the "shadow party" is enacting some sort of elaborate charade. And that worries me very much."
I agree that something's awry.  Just the sum of money raised between the two alone, should be an indicator of some kind of hanky-panky.  I simply cannot fathom that at a time when "the economy is in ruin, people cannot afford gasoline, cannot make their house payments" etcetera etcetera, that they are sending vast amounts of scarce money to the democratic party.

I remember 40 years ago just starting out on my own and not having two nickels to rub together.  If I had the choice of spending my last dollar on a pack of cigarettes or a lousy presidential candidate, I know which would have won out. So one of two things is possible. People aren't hurting for money, or someone else is sending money in their name. 
39 posted on 03/01/2008 9:40:32 AM PST by HawaiianGecko
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To: Richard Poe

Your article is so accurate, thank you for sharing it with us.

Yes, I would like to be on your ping list.


40 posted on 03/01/2008 9:42:50 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Velveeta; milford421; LibertyRocks

Mr. Poe has captured the truth about this election and hilary, you will want to read this article.


41 posted on 03/01/2008 9:44:19 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thank you for the ping, I am glad that I read the article.


42 posted on 03/01/2008 9:46:15 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: Gondring

The day before the Iowa cacuses, I was able to get on a talk show to ask a question of Ron Paul. First, I praised her for his vigorous defense of the Constitution. Then, I told him I had a foreign policy question.

Q: Knowing what we know about the policy of the mullahs and Ahmadinejad relative to Israel, if North Korea sent a ship to Iran with nuclear missiles, would you either board and capture or sink the ship?

A: Why would we?

That told me all I needed to know about Ron Paul. He is Unfit for Command.


43 posted on 03/01/2008 9:52:28 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Richard Poe

Are you seriously trying to help improve upon Dick Morris’s “often wrong” political predictions?


44 posted on 03/01/2008 9:58:36 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Richard Poe

This is a fantastic article... not so much for its message, but for the wealth of linked information comntained therein.

Conservatives who vote for Hillary! are just messing with the democrat party, nothing more.


45 posted on 03/01/2008 9:59:04 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Cicero
McCain is a little better than the other two, but the problem is that if he wins it will destroy the party and the conservative movement, and he will be in a stronger position to pass malign legislation than a Democrat would be.

Granted, McCain is far from the ideal GOP candidate, but seems significantly better than the other two.

Destroy the party? The GOP has been very resiliant over 150 years, and has not been "destroyed" despite such non-conservative nominees as Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, George H. W. Bush, and Bob Dole. This is not the first time, even in relatively recent history, that this is happening. And surely an "in" party holding the White House is less likely to be "destroyed" than an "out" party.

McCain "in a stronger position to pass malign legislation than a Democrat"? That depends to a large extent on the makeup of the next Congress, but a 'Rat Congress and a 'Rat president figures to be the most malign circumstance.

46 posted on 03/01/2008 10:21:36 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Richard Poe

This reminds me of 1968-1969 and the SDS split into RYMI-RYMII and the Weathermen.

There is a pathology on the Left that always results in internecine warfare and divisive splits. Likely this is because they are each after personal power, rather than pure ideologues. As each movement/revolution grows and ages, there are individuals who do not get what they think they deserve/are entitled to. These people harbor grudges, ally ad hoc against whomever does have power and counter-revolutions are born.

My husband and I got out of the Left totally in the 1970s, but we were around for 1968-1969. We keep saying to each other that this year’s Democrat fight reminds us strongly of 40 years ago. Many of the most active young Leftists are nihilists and they will at least try to bring about anarchy at the convention. They call themselves R68 for “Recreate ‘68”.

Remember: while far from stupid and very, very rich, they just are not that talented. Look at how much has already been made public from the past 40 years relative to this campaign, for example. Talented people would have covered their tracks a lot better, IMO. I believe there is a chance they will blow it once again. No one thought Nixon would win. No one thought Reagan would win. The Left thought they had defeated Bush twice. The leaders are extremely arrogant.

The mass of American voters are pragmatic. Most are secular. A majority are not suicidal. I do know sane Democrats who are not buying the hype and who also are not feminists. I was hearing ardent Greens putting McCain forth as a possible POTUS over a year and a half ago. McCain (whom I do not like, but for whom I will vote)only needs a percentage of the usual Dem voters, especially if another percentage stays home.

Vote fraud is my major fear this fall.


47 posted on 03/01/2008 10:24:32 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Richard Poe

Yes, Hillary Conservatives, a mystery worthy the pen of a Poe!


48 posted on 03/01/2008 10:25:50 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Richard Poe

Though I have some question as to whether there is such an animal as a “Hillarycon,” thanks for keeping the troops on the alert for her. It ain’t over until it’s over!


49 posted on 03/01/2008 10:26:00 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: alicewonders

“I’m with you. When my state’s primary FINALLY comes up in May - I will vote a straight Republican ticket - but I will vote for Ron Paul instead of John McCain. Ron Paul is the most conservative candidate still on the ballot.

I will not submit, but will send a message with my vote. McCain must be stopped before the convention - it is still not too late to get rid of him.”

I can certainly understand folks voting for someone other than McCain in the primary elections. I voted for Romney once Fred was gone.

I realize there is a slight chance that McCain will not reach the 1,191 delegate number but I guess the results of next Tuesday’s primary elections will let us know.

My concern is that so many folks are saying they will not vote for McCain in November if he IS the nominee. I hope those folks realize that four years of McCain would not do near the damage to our country that one year of Obama or Hillary would.


50 posted on 03/01/2008 10:43:12 AM PST by seekthetruth
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