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Obama: Sermon on Mount Justifies Same-Sex Unions
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Posted on 03/03/2008 8:03:52 AM PST by Gopher Broke

Obama: Sermon on Mount Justifies Same-Sex Unions

By Terence P. Jeffrey

CNSNews.com Editor in Chief

March 03, 2008

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told a crowd at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio, Sunday that he believes the Sermon on the Mount justifies his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions. He also told the crowd that his position in favor of legalized abortion does not make him "less Christian."

"I don't think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state," said Obama. "If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans." (See video here) St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans condemns homosexual acts as unnatural and sinful.

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To: ConservaTexan
Obama ‘08 - Bending over backwards to please homosexuals.

I think that should read, "Obama '08--Bending over to please homosexuals".

121 posted on 03/03/2008 1:59:54 PM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: Gopher Broke
the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans."

Another self-appointed Pope has spoken ex cathedra. YOPIOS strikes again!

Source

122 posted on 03/03/2008 2:40:58 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
What's that line about how even the devil can quote scripture?

From St. Faustina's Diary (red text are the words of our Lord).


Satan, the evil spirits and their work

Oh, how much I am hurt by a soul's distrust! Such a soul professes that I am Holy and Just, but does not believe that I am Mercy and does not trust in My Goodness. Even the devils glorify M Justice but do not believe in My Goodness. (300)
After the adoration, half way to my cell, I was surrounded by a pack of huge black dogs who were jumping and howling and trying to tear me to pieces. I realised that they were not dogs but demons. Once of them spoke up in a rage, "Because you have snatched so many souls so many souls away from us this night, we will tear you to pieces." I answered, "if that is the will of the most merciful God, tear me to pieces, for I have justly deserved it, because I am the most miserable of sinners, and God is ever holy, just, and infinitely merciful." To these words all the demons answered as one, "Let us flee, for she is not alone; the Almighty is with her!" And they vanished like dust...while I continued on my way to my cell undisturbed. (320)
I united my sufferings with the sufferings of Jesus and offered them for myself and for the conversion of souls who do not trust in the goodness of God. Suddenly, my cell was filled with black figures full of anger and hatred for me. One of them said, "Be damned, you and He who is within you, for you are beginning to torment us even in hell." As soon as I said, "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us," the figures vanished in a sudden whir. (323)
When a soul praises My goodness, Satan trembles before it and flees to the very bottom of hell. (378)
Satan can even clothe himself in a cloak of humility, but he does not know how to wear the cloak of obedience and thus his evil designs will be disclosed. (939)
 
On one occasion, I saw Satan hurrying about and looking for someone among the sisters, but he could find no one. I felt an interior inspiration to command him in the Name of God to confess to me what he was looking for among the sisters. And he confessed, though unwillingly, "I am looking for idle souls". When I commanded him again in the Name of God to tell me to which souls in religious life he has the easiest access, he said, again unwillingly, "To lazy and idle souls." ...Let the toiling and tired souls rejoice. (1127)
 
Satan has admitted to me that I am the object of his hatred. He said that "a thousand souls do me less harm than you do when you speak of the great mercy of the Almighty One. The greatest sinners regain confidence and return to God , and I lose everything. But what is more, you persecute me personally with that unfathomable mercy of the Almighty One." I took note of the great hatred Satan has for the mercy of God. He does not want to acknowledge that God is good. (1167)
 
As I write these words, I hear the cry of Satan: "She's writing everything, she's writing everything, and because of this we are losing so much! Do not write about the goodness of God; He is just!" And howling with fury, he vanished. (1338)
 
I see a certain priest whom God loves greatly, but whom Satan hates terribly because he is leading many souls to a high degree of sanctity and has regard only for God' glory. But I keep asking God that his patience with those who constantly oppose him might not run out. Where Satan himself can do no harm, he uses people. (1384)
 
When I was going upstairs this evening, a strange dislike for everything having to do with God suddenly came over me. At that, I heard Satan who said to me, "Think no more about this work. God is not as merciful as you say He is. Do not pray for sinners, because they will be damned all the same, and by this work of mercy you expose your own self to damnation. ....the voice took the appearance of my Guardian Angel, and at that moment I replied, "I know who you are: the father of lies." I made the sign of the cross, and the angel vanished with great racket and fury. (1405)
 
Taking the form of an apparition he said, "Do not pray for sinners, but for yourself, for you will be damned." Paying no attention to Satan, I continued to pray with redoubled fervour. for sinners. The Evil Spirit howled with fury, "Oh, if I had power over you!" and disappeared. I saw that my suffering and prayer shackled Satan and snatched many souls from his clutches. (1465)
 
When I went, in my thoughts, to the chapel, my spirit was plunged into even greater darkness. Total discouragement came over me. Then I heard Satan's voice; "See how contradictory everything is that Jesus gives to you: He tells you to found a convent, and then He gives you sickness; He tells you to set about establishing this Feast of Mercy while the whole world does not at all want such a feast. Why do you pray for this feast? It is so inopportune." My soul remained silent and, by an act of will, continued to pray without entering into conversation with the Spirit of Darkness. Nevertheless, such an extraordinary disgust with life came over me that I had to make a great act of the will to consent to go on living....And again I heard the tempter's words.... by an act of will, I began to pray, or rather, submitted myself to God, asking Him interiorly not to abandon me at this moment. It was already eleven o'clock at night, and there was silence all around. The sisters were all asleep in their cells, and my soul alone was struggling with great exertion. The tempter went on: "Why should you bother about other souls? You ought to be praying only for yourself. As for sinners, they will be converted without your prayers. I see that you are suffering very much at this moment. I'm going to give you a piece of advice on which your happiness will depend: never speak about God's mercy, because they deserve just punishment..".....Finally the tempter went away and I, exhausted, fell asleep immediately. (1498)
(The next morning) Satan gained nothing by tempting you, because you did not enter into conversation with him. Continue to act in this way. You gave Me great glory by fighting so faithfully. Let it be confirmed and engraved on your heart that I am always with you, even if you don't feel My presence at the time of battle. (1499)
 
As I write this, I hear Satan grinding his teeth. He cannot stand God's mercy, and keeps banging things in my cell. But I feel so much of God's power within me that it does not even bother me that the enemy of our salvation gets angry, and I quietly keep on writing. (1583)
 
You should not worry too much about adversities. The world is not as powerful as it seems to be; its strength is strictly limited.. Know, my daughter, that if your soul is filled with the fire of My pure love, then all difficulties dissipate like fog before the sun's rays and dare not touch the soul. All adversaries are afraid to start a quarrel with such a soul, because they sense that it is stronger than the whole world...(1643)
 
This work [of Divine Mercy] will snatch a great number of souls from [Satan] and that is why the spirit of darkness sometimes tempts good people violently, so that they may hinder the work. But I have clearly seen that the will of God is already being carried out, and that it will be accomplished to the very last detail....No matter if there are times when the work seems to be completely destroyed; it is then that the work is being all the more consolidated. (1659)

123 posted on 03/03/2008 4:07:52 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
What's that line about how even the devil can quote scripture?

From St. Faustina's Diary (red text are the words of our Lord).


Satan, the evil spirits and their work

Oh, how much I am hurt by a soul's distrust! Such a soul professes that I am Holy and Just, but does not believe that I am Mercy and does not trust in My Goodness. Even the devils glorify M Justice but do not believe in My Goodness. (300)
After the adoration, half way to my cell, I was surrounded by a pack of huge black dogs who were jumping and howling and trying to tear me to pieces. I realised that they were not dogs but demons. Once of them spoke up in a rage, "Because you have snatched so many souls so many souls away from us this night, we will tear you to pieces." I answered, "if that is the will of the most merciful God, tear me to pieces, for I have justly deserved it, because I am the most miserable of sinners, and God is ever holy, just, and infinitely merciful." To these words all the demons answered as one, "Let us flee, for she is not alone; the Almighty is with her!" And they vanished like dust...while I continued on my way to my cell undisturbed. (320)
I united my sufferings with the sufferings of Jesus and offered them for myself and for the conversion of souls who do not trust in the goodness of God. Suddenly, my cell was filled with black figures full of anger and hatred for me. One of them said, "Be damned, you and He who is within you, for you are beginning to torment us even in hell." As soon as I said, "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us," the figures vanished in a sudden whir. (323)
When a soul praises My goodness, Satan trembles before it and flees to the very bottom of hell. (378)
Satan can even clothe himself in a cloak of humility, but he does not know how to wear the cloak of obedience and thus his evil designs will be disclosed. (939)
 
On one occasion, I saw Satan hurrying about and looking for someone among the sisters, but he could find no one. I felt an interior inspiration to command him in the Name of God to confess to me what he was looking for among the sisters. And he confessed, though unwillingly, "I am looking for idle souls". When I commanded him again in the Name of God to tell me to which souls in religious life he has the easiest access, he said, again unwillingly, "To lazy and idle souls." ...Let the toiling and tired souls rejoice. (1127)
 
Satan has admitted to me that I am the object of his hatred. He said that "a thousand souls do me less harm than you do when you speak of the great mercy of the Almighty One. The greatest sinners regain confidence and return to God , and I lose everything. But what is more, you persecute me personally with that unfathomable mercy of the Almighty One." I took note of the great hatred Satan has for the mercy of God. He does not want to acknowledge that God is good. (1167)
 
As I write these words, I hear the cry of Satan: "She's writing everything, she's writing everything, and because of this we are losing so much! Do not write about the goodness of God; He is just!" And howling with fury, he vanished. (1338)
 
I see a certain priest whom God loves greatly, but whom Satan hates terribly because he is leading many souls to a high degree of sanctity and has regard only for God' glory. But I keep asking God that his patience with those who constantly oppose him might not run out. Where Satan himself can do no harm, he uses people. (1384)
 
When I was going upstairs this evening, a strange dislike for everything having to do with God suddenly came over me. At that, I heard Satan who said to me, "Think no more about this work. God is not as merciful as you say He is. Do not pray for sinners, because they will be damned all the same, and by this work of mercy you expose your own self to damnation. ....the voice took the appearance of my Guardian Angel, and at that moment I replied, "I know who you are: the father of lies." I made the sign of the cross, and the angel vanished with great racket and fury. (1405)
 
Taking the form of an apparition he said, "Do not pray for sinners, but for yourself, for you will be damned." Paying no attention to Satan, I continued to pray with redoubled fervour. for sinners. The Evil Spirit howled with fury, "Oh, if I had power over you!" and disappeared. I saw that my suffering and prayer shackled Satan and snatched many souls from his clutches. (1465)
 
When I went, in my thoughts, to the chapel, my spirit was plunged into even greater darkness. Total discouragement came over me. Then I heard Satan's voice; "See how contradictory everything is that Jesus gives to you: He tells you to found a convent, and then He gives you sickness; He tells you to set about establishing this Feast of Mercy while the whole world does not at all want such a feast. Why do you pray for this feast? It is so inopportune." My soul remained silent and, by an act of will, continued to pray without entering into conversation with the Spirit of Darkness. Nevertheless, such an extraordinary disgust with life came over me that I had to make a great act of the will to consent to go on living....And again I heard the tempter's words.... by an act of will, I began to pray, or rather, submitted myself to God, asking Him interiorly not to abandon me at this moment. It was already eleven o'clock at night, and there was silence all around. The sisters were all asleep in their cells, and my soul alone was struggling with great exertion. The tempter went on: "Why should you bother about other souls? You ought to be praying only for yourself. As for sinners, they will be converted without your prayers. I see that you are suffering very much at this moment. I'm going to give you a piece of advice on which your happiness will depend: never speak about God's mercy, because they deserve just punishment..".....Finally the tempter went away and I, exhausted, fell asleep immediately. (1498)
(The next morning) Satan gained nothing by tempting you, because you did not enter into conversation with him. Continue to act in this way. You gave Me great glory by fighting so faithfully. Let it be confirmed and engraved on your heart that I am always with you, even if you don't feel My presence at the time of battle. (1499)
 
As I write this, I hear Satan grinding his teeth. He cannot stand God's mercy, and keeps banging things in my cell. But I feel so much of God's power within me that it does not even bother me that the enemy of our salvation gets angry, and I quietly keep on writing. (1583)
 
You should not worry too much about adversities. The world is not as powerful as it seems to be; its strength is strictly limited.. Know, my daughter, that if your soul is filled with the fire of My pure love, then all difficulties dissipate like fog before the sun's rays and dare not touch the soul. All adversaries are afraid to start a quarrel with such a soul, because they sense that it is stronger than the whole world...(1643)
 
This work [of Divine Mercy] will snatch a great number of souls from [Satan] and that is why the spirit of darkness sometimes tempts good people violently, so that they may hinder the work. But I have clearly seen that the will of God is already being carried out, and that it will be accomplished to the very last detail....No matter if there are times when the work seems to be completely destroyed; it is then that the work is being all the more consolidated. (1659)

124 posted on 03/03/2008 4:08:09 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: ClearCase_guy
He’s confused about the term “mount”.

Now that was really funny. = D

125 posted on 03/03/2008 4:41:15 PM PST by murphE (I refuse to choose evil, even if it is the lesser of two.)
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To: Gopher Broke

If I thought he’d read it, I’d send Mr. Obama a very blunt and very explicit letter detailing just why homosexual sex is WRONG, UNNATURAL and IMMORAL.


126 posted on 03/03/2008 4:51:47 PM PST by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Gopher Broke; All
Sermon-on-the-Mount-Obama-style.

Now he's spinning Jesus for us.

Stroing! There goes whatever slight thread of allowance I had made for the possible goodness of this man.

This man is a full-fledged disaster waiting to happen. God help us.

127 posted on 03/03/2008 4:55:46 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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To: Salvation
Another reason for Catholics not to vote for Obama!

I had plenty of reasons before he swallowed both of his own feet.

128 posted on 03/03/2008 4:59:52 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Keep going Barack. Sooner or later the whiners and pouters here on FR are going to realize that JOHN MCCAIN IS THEIR ONLY OPTION ON NOVEMBER 4TH! (By the way I don’t like it either but that’s just the way it is.)

A candidate who is in favor of killing innocents is not an option. That leaves McCain. Period.

129 posted on 03/03/2008 5:02:16 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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To: kb2614

“Sounds like another follower of “Make Crap Up” Theology.”

ROFLOL!


130 posted on 03/03/2008 5:22:59 PM PST by samiam1972 (It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.)
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To: Gopher Broke

must be a Quran thang.


131 posted on 03/03/2008 5:28:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ladtx

” ...hell will last a long time.”

maybe almost as long as this primary season ;)


132 posted on 03/03/2008 5:36:10 PM PST by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: Gopher Broke

It just triply urks me when a political-secular wannabe knows NOTHING about the Bible and then pulls a passage out of context and to justify their stupidity to the uniformed unwashed masses.
And... Obama you don’t pick out what you like and throw out the rest because you find it ‘obsure’. God is not mocked and he is the same today, yesterday and forever. All of the words are there for a purpose... and it ain’t yours.


133 posted on 03/03/2008 5:39:28 PM PST by BigFinn (isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: Gopher Broke; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

134 posted on 03/03/2008 5:50:50 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Gopher Broke
He also told the crowd that his position in favor of legalized abortion does not make him "less Christian."

OH I TOTALLY AGREE!

Kind of hard to be less Christian than Zero.

135 posted on 03/03/2008 6:37:52 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Firts, it's nice to be able to have a rational, yet impassioned discussion in a calm manner. Thanks..

So why not "hold your nose"..vote for McCain, and see if he keeps his promises, re SCOTUS justices, VP choice, and other points? If he does, great, we're ahead of the game..if he doesn't we're probably still marginally better off, and then you can vigorously mount a primary challenge..and I shall support you all the way.

136 posted on 03/03/2008 6:47:16 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Gopher Broke

Obama speaking at the home of the Paul Bunyan Festival, where “Miss Hcoking Tech” is awarded a chrome-plated ax???

What a laugh!


137 posted on 03/03/2008 9:11:29 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Gopher Broke
Obama says he is a "devout christian" who believes in the wanton destruction of babies in the womb via abortion on demand and openly supports homosexuality; falsely claiming that Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount validates it, while at the same time denying Romans 1's clear and absolute condemnation of homosexuality, as authoritative on the subject.

Barack Obama's "open letter concerning LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) equality in America." on his Web site proves he is no Christian.

"As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws," Obama said in the letter. "I personally believe that civil unions represent the best way to secure that equal treatment. But I also believe that the federal government should not stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and lesbian couples--whether that means a domestic partnership, a civil union, or a civil marriage."

Based upon his stated beliefs regarding the above, the man is a liar; he is no "Christian" but a wolf in sheep’s clothing seeking to deceive the masses with his falsehoods and totally unworthy to hold the office of President of the United States.

138 posted on 03/03/2008 9:47:29 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: Rodm

Amen! And one more thing that Christians know about God. God loves the sinner, not the sin. He wants us to live a life like Jesus’. We won’t be perfect like him and we will still sin, but we strive to not sin NOT try to justify it!


139 posted on 03/03/2008 9:54:10 PM PST by ripcasc (There is a lot at stake in this election!)
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To: Gopher Broke

B. Hussein Obama is so wrong on so many things that it’s ridiculous to envision him as President of the US.

But I hope he gets the nomination, because McCain will whip his butt.


140 posted on 03/03/2008 9:58:28 PM PST by Palladin (Michelle Obama is Aunt Esther, without the Bible.)
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