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U.S. could intervene as Chavez prepares for war on Colombia
The Daily Mail ^ | March 2, 2008 | William Lowther

Posted on 03/03/2008 3:34:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Venezuela threatened to declare war on neighbouring Colombia last night, raising the prospect of the U.S. being drawn into conflict in South America.

Venezuela's Left-wing president Hugo Chavez ordered ten tank battalions to the Colombian border and put war-planes under emergency stand-by.

The tension follows Colombia's decision to send its army to strike against anti-government guerrillas hiding in the jungles of Ecuador.

The surprise attack - launched without Ecuador's permission - killed Raul Reyes, a top commander in the Left-wing Colombian rebel group Farc, and about 16 of his men.

President Chavez yesterday closed the Colombian embassy in Caracas, warning that any similar entry into his country's territory after the rebels would be "cause for war".

The U.S. would almost certainly come to Colombia's aid if oil-rich Venezuela launched an invasion. But Washington-based diplomats played down the brouhaha and said it might be no more than bluster from Chavez, an outspoken opponent of the U.S.

However, Pentagon sources said Colombia had been warned not to allow its hunt for Farc rebels to cross Venezuela's borders.

Over the last few weeks President Chavez, who is very close to new Cuban President Raul Castro, has been in negotiations with Farc leaders and has persuaded them to hand over some of the hostages they have been holding for years.

While the US has bitterly deteriorating relations with Venezuela it has recently improved ties to Colombia and has troops in that country helping in the fight against the massive illicit cocaine trade.

President Chavez moved quickly yesterday to close the Colombian embassy in Caracas and to declare on national television that Colombian President Alvaro Uribe was a "criminal."

He said the killing of the rebel leader was a "cowardly murder."

President Chavez said that any similar incursion into Venezuelan territory after the rebels would be seen as a "cause for war."

Ecuador's President Rafael Correa has called the killing of the rebels inside his country "scandalous."

According to Pentagon sources the US has warned Colombia not to let its military venture into Venezuela in pursuit of Farc guerrillas and there is no indication that they have done so.

The US is hoping that President Chavez – known for making extravagant claims – is on no more than a sabre-rattling exercise with no real intention of going to war.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Cuba; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: colombia; correa; ecuador; farc; guerrillas; hugochavez; insurgents; latinamerica; leftwing; marxist; military; southamerica; tinpotdictator; venezuela; venezuelantroops
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The US should have intervened the day Chavez was elected. I never understood why the CIA didn’t take care of this guy. It was apparent from the day he took office that he was going to cause this kind of trouble.


41 posted on 03/03/2008 4:45:14 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: rmlew

No, I don’t list Columbia as our best ally. With your same reasoning, I suppose you’d place Australia and England below Columbia? Give Columbia another decade or so and then I might move them above the mid-mark.


42 posted on 03/03/2008 4:47:52 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: Hardastarboard

The CIA has a lot of honorable and good men and women. It also has a lot of traitors. I wish the good guys could boot the bad ones.


43 posted on 03/03/2008 4:49:13 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: WoofDog123
“The next time the Arabs attack Israel, should we just let the two parties “pummel each other into the dirt”?”

Israel did handle its neighbors by itself in 2 wars,

Wrong.

Israel cannot wage a major war without massive U.S. logistical support.

Six Day War:

In his book Six Days veteran BBC journalist Jeremy Bowen claims that on 4 June 1967 the Israeli ship Miryam left Felixstowe with cases of machine guns, 105 mm tank shells, and armored vehicles in "the latest of many consignments of arms that had been sent secretly to Israel from British and American reserves since the crisis started" and that "Israeli transport planes had been running a 'shuttle service' in and out of RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire". Bowen claims that Harold Wilson had written to Eshkol saying that he was glad to help as long as the utmost secrecy was maintained

Yom Kippur War:

In the Yom Kippur War, Operation Nickel Grass dwarfed the Berlin Airlift.

Operation Nickel Grass

Nickel Grass: The airlift that saved Israel

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"Amateurs talk about strategy, dilettantes talk about tactics, and professionals talk about logistics."

44 posted on 03/03/2008 4:51:52 PM PST by Polybius
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To: mtbopfuyn
No, I don’t list Columbia as our best ally. With your same reasoning, I suppose you’d place Australia and England below Columbia? Give Columbia another decade or so and then I might move them above the mid-mark.
Either you are confusing my post with that of another, your reading comprehension skills are lacking, or you are making a foolish strawman argument.
I said that Colombia is "an ally" not our closest or best ally.
Regardless of rank, they deserve our support against nacro-marxist guerillas and Chavez.
45 posted on 03/03/2008 4:54:02 PM PST by rmlew (Grievance politics is a mental illness)
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To: Isara

Colombia is a great country which absolutely loves the US and has supported us in the efforts to end the drug war. I’ve been there a number of times and love the place.


46 posted on 03/03/2008 4:57:37 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Isara
Do you know that Columbia is our good ally?

Why, because many of the people of that corrupt country smuggle hundred of tons of dope into America as a matter of routine, and because they import illegal aliens and violent gangs into America?

47 posted on 03/03/2008 5:00:02 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The US is hoping that President Chavez – known for making extravagant claims – is on no more than a sabre-rattling exercise

Personally, I hope that he is deadly serious and primed for action.


48 posted on 03/03/2008 5:04:21 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Bender2

I would not give those tanks 48 hours. Our planes will decimate them if they cross over into Columbia.


49 posted on 03/03/2008 5:04:36 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Polybius

I stand corrected, except the part about the Liberty.


50 posted on 03/03/2008 5:05:38 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Polybius

Very true. The other side of that is that the Soviets were providing similar logistical support to the Egyptians and Syrians.

With predictable results.


51 posted on 03/03/2008 5:06:33 PM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Parley Baer

Has chavez bought any TOR-M1’s on his buying spree with russia?


52 posted on 03/03/2008 5:07:27 PM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want us spread thin!


53 posted on 03/03/2008 5:10:43 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: dragnet2

Please read Post #21.


54 posted on 03/03/2008 5:14:06 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara
Ya know, it's been speculated that 1/3 of the entire Colombian budget is stolen every year and ends up in the wrong hands. Colombia is as corrupt as Mexico...Maybe more so. Even their military is corrupt and have proved they can't be trusted. The reports on that country's endless corruption is very well documented.
55 posted on 03/03/2008 5:18:40 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
Ya know, it's been speculated that 1/3 of the entire Colombian budget is stolen every year and ends up in the wrong hands.

Speculated? That's your argument?

56 posted on 03/03/2008 5:21:29 PM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dang! I love this..

... the U.S. has an opportunity to get rid of Chavez once and for all.....all they have to do is stir the pot a little.

I think that most of the people down there wouldn't shed many tears to find out that Chavez's time is up, either.

57 posted on 03/03/2008 5:25:15 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: processing please hold

Are you suggesting Colombia is not a corrupt country, and that the corruption has not been directly linked to the highest levels of their government AND military?


58 posted on 03/03/2008 5:26:13 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

And we once belonged to England. Things change.


59 posted on 03/03/2008 5:28:19 PM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: dragnet2

“Ya know, it’s been speculated that 1/3 of the entire Colombian budget is stolen every year and ends up in the wrong hands.”

And you think this is unusual in latin america, or most of the world for that matter?

What % of the US budget do you think ends up in the wrong hands?


60 posted on 03/03/2008 5:28:54 PM PST by WoofDog123
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