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Library withheld papers on Clinton pardons
KTKA/AP ^ | 3-7-08

Posted on 03/07/2008 5:58:52 PM PST by STARWISE

More than a thousand pages covering pardons granted by former president Bill Clinton during his final days in office have been withheld from the public.

Archivists at the Clinton Presidential Library decided to keep the papers out of a larger batch recently released because they covered confidential discussions with advisers.

Included in the more than 2800 documents that have been made public, letters in support of fugitive financier Marc Rich and his partner, both of whom were pardoned by Clinton.

The delays by the library in releasing documents have led to sharp criticism of Clinton and former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.

A spokeswoman for the National Archives, which runs the library, now says they may have misinterpreted a 2002 letter from the former president in which he left instructions on which pardon documents should be made public.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billclinton; clinton; clintonlegacy; clintonlibrary; hillary; hillaryclinton; hillarysecrets; marcrich; pardons; presidentiallibrary
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Could be her breaking point .. we shall see.
1 posted on 03/07/2008 5:58:54 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

>>Archivists at the Clinton Presidential Library decided to keep the papers out of a larger batch recently released because they covered confidential discussions with advisers.<<

Don’t all Presidents withhold advice documents so Presidents can continue to get confidential advice. Its makes it pretty much impossible to tell when its being used for coverup.

Like Dick Cheney’s energy meetings. I’m sure Dems would love to correlate with that with the way energy tripled in cost but there is broad precedent.


2 posted on 03/07/2008 6:04:46 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: SE Mom; doug from upland; backhoe; Southack; rodguy911; silent_jonny; Lancey Howard; Syncro; ...
~Whaddya know .. PING!
3 posted on 03/07/2008 6:07:26 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!

NOT!


4 posted on 03/07/2008 6:07:59 PM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel, FreeRepublic and pookie18 Rocks!)
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To: STARWISE
I still thought Denise Rich was pretty cute.


5 posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:34 PM PST by squidly
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To: All

http://www.startribune.com/nation/16394736.html

Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for the National Archives, which runs the library, said Friday that the federal agency may have misinterpreted Clinton’s instructions in a 2002 letter to the Archives on his presidential records when deciding what pardon documents to release.

“We had been interpreting the easing letter president Clinton wrote in a particular way and were interpreting it very conservatively,” Cooper said. “We then discovered in the course of conversations with (Clinton adviser Bruce Lindsey) that the president’s desire was to interpret the easing letter less conservatively and more openly. ... It is for that reason there was more material withheld in this pardon material than we would have if we had been reviewing this stuff later.”

Cooper said archivists don’t have any immediate plans to revisit the pardon records to determine whether additional papers should be made public because doing so would delay the release of other records. The library is expected to release 10,000 pages of Hillary Clinton’s schedules as first lady later this month.

“We’re serving several masters at the same time. If we do that and look at all of the materials we’ve released so far, we’re not going to get anything new out,” Cooper said. “What that means is Mrs. Clinton’s schedules would not be out on time and whatever is next in the queue would not be attended to.”

On his last day in office, President Clinton granted 140 pardons and 36 commutations, many of them controversial. The documents released include dozens of letters Clinton and his advisers received in the months before he left office advocating pardons for Rich and others.

Rich had fled the country after being indicted for tax evasion. His ex-wife, Denise Rich, had contributed $450,000 to the Clinton library and more than $1.1 million to the Democratic Party.

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Since she was co-president, links her time in the WH to the “35 years” she has given to public service, and claims to have had extensive government and foreign affairs experience, etc., why shouldn’t her appointment books be released? I have no illusions .. they’re controlling ALL of this.


6 posted on 03/07/2008 6:16:17 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: gondramB

His advice from counselors = yes, but she was the unelected first person. Why should her papers be covered under that privilege?


7 posted on 03/07/2008 6:18:00 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: squidly

YICK!


8 posted on 03/07/2008 6:18:28 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
Image hosted by Photobucket.com do I really have to say it???

9 posted on 03/07/2008 6:19:17 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: gondramB

Sure, but no other president’s wife has run for president herself. She wants to rewrite the rules, so fine.. let’s rewrite ‘em.


10 posted on 03/07/2008 6:20:57 PM PST by lainie ("You had your time, you had the power, you've yet to have your finest hour" (Roger Taylor, 1984))
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To: STARWISE

Ask Web about his pardon, oh yea, he didn’t get one.


11 posted on 03/07/2008 6:24:48 PM PST by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
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To: STARWISE

>>His advice from counselors = yes, but she was the unelected first person. Why should her papers be covered under that privilege?<<

I didn’t realize they were papers that didn’t relate to advice to the President - you’re right that would be different if it was advice to the first lady only.


12 posted on 03/07/2008 6:25:53 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: lainie

>>Sure, but no other president’s wife has run for president herself. She wants to rewrite the rules, so fine.. let’s rewrite ‘em.<<

Yes if it doesn’t relate to Presidential advice that’s different.


13 posted on 03/07/2008 6:26:50 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB

Her appointment books alone = >>>>>>>> Obama’s, McCain’s g*o*l*d


14 posted on 03/07/2008 6:27:16 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Chode

LOL ..


15 posted on 03/07/2008 6:28:33 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
Could be her breaking point .. we shall see.

Hillary did not pardon anyone, Bill did. She will always, much to her chagrin, carry the weight of the decisions HER HUSBAND made, during her attempt to be the Democratic nominee.

Both she and Obama are involved through public record with those named in the trials of "fund-raisers gone bad". Obama has Rezko present day, Clinton has Peter L. Paul/Clinton where she was supposed to testify (April should tell us more).

This will make McCain, by process of elimination, look like the only honest one running, not tied to any illegal activity of any kind.

The press last week ran 69 stories hitting hard at Obama. The others, for the first time, escaped the media wrath.

I will tell you one thing I find extremely odd. Obama seems to have protected himself from being photographed with people that have come out of his background. Clinton was recently shown with Rezko 17 years ago in a photo that suddenly appeared on Drudge from an unknown source and right into Wikipedia right after. No pictures (except Photoshop ) of Obama at dinners, events--? If you are in the public eye, should be pictures of you with "friends" oall over the society pages/news/politics.

The Honey Moon is over for Obama. The Honey Moon was "publicly" over for the Clintons a long time ago.

16 posted on 03/07/2008 6:30:12 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: STARWISE
Could be her breaking point .. we shall see.

After Monica in the Oval Office, Bil Clinton is still respected by many...

Don't get your hopes up in a country of disillusioned sheeple.

17 posted on 03/07/2008 6:33:35 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: lainie
"Sure, but no other president’s wife has run for president herself. She wants to rewrite the rules, so fine.. let’s rewrite ‘em.

She also wants to re-write the DNC rules for the Michigan and Florida primaries. She wanted to rewrite the Texas Caucus rules because she does not do well in them. She probably will want to rewrite the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and maybe the National Anthem.

18 posted on 03/07/2008 6:34:30 PM PST by harpo11 (Thank Rush Limbaugh if the She-Demon's Ample Tush Sits in the Oval Office! & Slick Willy..well)
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To: STARWISE
I don't need to see the papers and the kool aiders will not believe anything; so what's the point? It was bribery and vote pandering. When you release terrorists who killed cops and there is no recourse, you can get away with anything.

The Clinton legacy is that they will never anywhere at anytime by anyone be held accountable for their crimes.

19 posted on 03/07/2008 6:37:16 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: squidly

So did Bubba when he gave her private sax lessons.


20 posted on 03/07/2008 6:38:00 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: squidly

so’d the bent one.


21 posted on 03/07/2008 6:38:00 PM PST by glock rocks ( I can see clearly now the brain is gone... gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

excellent timing!


22 posted on 03/07/2008 6:38:24 PM PST by glock rocks ( I can see clearly now the brain is gone... gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day.)
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To: STARWISE

I personally broke a story about Clinton granting North Carolina Auto Dealer and NASCAR Team owner Rick Hendrick a pardon shortly after Hendrick’s friend Hugh McColl, Jr. shortly after McColl made a huge contribution to Bill Clinton’s library. Hendrick served on the Board of Directors for friend and then CEO Hugh McColl at NationsBank — now Bank of America.

This was then investigated by Congressman Dan Burton’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. I turned over all my evidence to the investigators.

The story was picked up from here within minutes by Rita Cosby, then at Fox News.


23 posted on 03/07/2008 6:50:45 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Chode
What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?
My health, I came to Casablanca for the waters.
The waters? What waters, we're in the desert.
I was misinformed.
24 posted on 03/07/2008 6:51:42 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: TommyDale

Thank you for your efforts.

The Clinton White House was mostly a payoff
turnstile, and we’ll be paying for it for
decades yet to come.

Here’s the FReeper article about that
particular greasy deal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a99b62033ef.htm

I was always under the impression that Hugh
McColl was a man of high character. How wrong
I was. Imagine how many stories there are.


25 posted on 03/07/2008 6:56:07 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: EGPWS

I know .. I’m a blooming optimist, but
for the last couple of months, I’ve been
saying that the whole election scenario
could change .. there’s too much time.

And, who would’ve predicted the mess the
Rats have now .. too cute by half they
thought, huh? Now ..it’s scorched earth
for THEM. woohoo!

I’m still sayin’: there’s too much time
left .. too many things will yet happen,
and I know and have faith that God is in
charge.

I just know it’s not gonna be boring. ;)


26 posted on 03/07/2008 7:00:48 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: mc5cents
Image hosted by Photobucket.com misinformed alright... 8^)
27 posted on 03/07/2008 7:01:42 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: STARWISE
Imagine how many stories there are.

Indeed.


28 posted on 03/07/2008 7:02:59 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: STARWISE
Ugh...these stories about withheld and secret documents are starting to crop up again in the news.

Makes me nauseous. This is how I used to feel in the 90's.

29 posted on 03/07/2008 7:10:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: gondramB

I hear ya. But if she wants to inflict herself upon us, which she obviously does, and it forces Slick to pay a different price than other former presidents? I’m fine with that. That’s all I’m saying.


30 posted on 03/07/2008 7:12:30 PM PST by lainie ("You had your time, you had the power, you've yet to have your finest hour" (Roger Taylor, 1984))
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To: STARWISE
More than a thousand pages covering pardons granted by former president Bill Clinton during his final days in office have been withheld from the public.

Well, there's a shocker!

I wonder if FOI lawsuit could get this out soon. Paging Mark Levin, Judicial Watch, et al.

31 posted on 03/07/2008 7:51:35 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: razorback-bert
Ask Web about his pardon, oh yea, he didn’t get one.

IIRC, Clinton's "good friend and partner" McDougall received the old "Withheld Medication Dixie Pardon", while Clinton was boinking McDougall's wife.

32 posted on 03/07/2008 7:55:06 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: fight_truth_decay
Hillary did not pardon anyone, Bill did.

True.

But he pardoned four Hasidic swindlers in return for votes for his wife (New Square.

So she benefited from his malfeasance.

33 posted on 03/07/2008 8:13:47 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
But he pardoned four Hasidic swindlers in return for votes for his wife

Maybe he should not do her any favors, as it has hurt her 100 fold over, definitely more than helped. It's like saying: With Friends (of Bill's) Like These, Who Needs Enemies?


34 posted on 03/07/2008 8:25:14 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 03/07/2008 9:03:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

The saga has no end ...


36 posted on 03/07/2008 9:57:20 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: fight_truth_decay
With Friends (of Bill's) Like These, Who Needs Enemies?

The clintons are like a tornado, everyone's lives who are touched by them are left in a trail of devastation behind them, both friend and foe.

37 posted on 03/07/2008 10:51:34 PM PST by Wil H
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To: STARWISE
A spokeswoman for the National Archives, which runs the library, now says they may have misinterpreted a 2002 letter from the former president in which he left instructions on which pardon documents should be made public.

How does a former President get to dictate to the National Library on what docments may and may not be made public? Who appointed him to write their policies?

38 posted on 03/08/2008 5:28:49 AM PST by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: purpleraine

Have faith my friend.

Everyone will be judged some day.


39 posted on 03/08/2008 5:54:42 AM PST by bluedressman
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To: bluedressman

I know, but sometimes I entertain thoughts of earthly justice.


40 posted on 03/08/2008 6:16:15 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: what's up

If Obama is the Messiah they say he is. He should have a hundred thousand people march on the Clinton library and hod it under seige until the documents are released!


41 posted on 03/08/2008 7:46:33 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: what's up; purpleraine

What does any of it matter? Why even bother starting this thread? They can do anything they want and get away with it, just as they always have. We whine and whine about it-and then-we reward them and keep them alive politically. America had its one fleeting chance to be free of the swine forever last Tuesday, and what seemed like half the FReepers in Texas and Ohio crossed over and voted for these scum, after listening to the ‘brilliant strategy’ of ‘conservative’ talk show hosts who want to sell more books. Get ready for eight more years. All because a lot of people apparently forgot the first eight-or how they always land on their feet.


42 posted on 03/08/2008 7:47:09 AM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Rush has unsealed the mummy's tomb-he has unleashed the undead."-Hugh Hewitt)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

You mean the same Mark Levin who told people to vote for them last week?


43 posted on 03/08/2008 7:48:48 AM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Rush has unsealed the mummy's tomb-he has unleashed the undead."-Hugh Hewitt)
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To: fight_truth_decay

This will make McCain, by process of elimination, look like the only honest one running, not tied to any illegal activity of any kind.....Yes, the Keating Five will, again, be overlooked at our expense.


44 posted on 03/08/2008 8:05:42 AM PST by Safetgiver (Lord, I'll give to the poor when they stop wanting to be poor.)
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To: STARWISE

I bet billionaire crooks everywhere are salivating at the thought of her becoming president.


45 posted on 03/08/2008 8:54:15 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When you choose the lesser of two evils, you still have evil.)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

As far as I’m concerned, the jury’s still out on that tactic. That said, I’m fundamentally against such tactics and IMO the parties should take steps to eliminate them.


46 posted on 03/08/2008 9:05:24 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Safetgiver
Yes, the Keating Five will, again, be overlooked at our expense.

His friends contributed $56,000 for Senator McCain's two House races in 1982 and 1984, and $54,000 for his 1986 Senate race. Didn't cost us a dime, in fact probably saved us money/airplane trip ;)

Senate Select Committee on Ethics concluded: "The Committee concludes that Senator McCain's actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him. The Committee finds that Senator McCain took no further action after the April 9, 1987 meeting when he learned of a criminal referral. "

"The Committee reaffirms its prior decision that it does not have jurisdiction to determine the issues of disclosure or reimbursement pertaining to flights provided by American Continental Corporation while Senator McCain was a Member of the House of Representatives. The Committee did consider the effect of such on his state of mind and judgment in taking steps to assist Lincoln.

"Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate; therefore, the Committee concludes that no further action is warranted with respect to Senator McCain on the matters investigated during the preliminary inquiry."

Investigation fini. Clinton/Peter Paul and Obama/Rezko, however present day media illegal fund raising attention more likely to take precedent.

Old Alumni vs the New Pledgie: Barack "Barry" Hussein Obama, Jr., #23.

47 posted on 03/08/2008 10:46:45 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: STARWISE

bttt


48 posted on 03/09/2008 12:41:36 AM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: STARWISE

There’s a lot of dirt on her that’s been witheld. Remember a while back the Barrett (or was it the Burnett) Report that she had kept under wraps? I wonder if that was ever released. She also held back her college thesis.


49 posted on 03/09/2008 5:56:21 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: STARWISE
Rich had fled the country after being indicted for tax evasion. His ex-wife, Denise Rich, had contributed $450,000 to the Clinton library and more than $1.1 million to the Democratic Party. ~~~

PLUS, Hillary;s two fat, CROOKED brothers each got $200,000 for pardons for other criminals!!!!! The RODHAMS are the WORST family ever in politics!!

50 posted on 03/09/2008 6:00:11 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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