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Beer battle brewing in Alabama
LA Times ^ | March 10, 2008 | Stephanie Simon

Posted on 03/10/2008 9:50:29 AM PDT by vietvet67

HARVEST, ALA. -- Two dozen guys are crowded into a basement, talking loudly over Triscuits, when Scott Oberman breaks the law.

In defiance of Alabama Criminal Code 28-4-20, he pours his buddy a beer.

"John Tipton's Chocolate Porter," he announces. It's a dark brown beer, almost black, with a taste that starts out astringent, like cheap red wine, then mellows into a silky chocolate flavor, with fleeting notes of coffee and cinnamon.

Tipton, a big-bellied mechanical engineer, brewed it at home, for fun. That's illegal in Alabama. He estimates the beer is about 8% alcohol by volume. That's illegal, too.

But it won't be for long, if the guys in the basement get their way.

Seventy-five years after Prohibition, beer aficionados in Alabama are fighting for the right to brew and chug as they please. That's raised the ire of Southern Baptists, who frown on alcohol in any form. As they jockey for advantage in the Legislature, one side quotes Scripture. The other cites BeerAdvocate.com. One talks morality. The other, malt.

Though this may seem like an only-in-the-Bible-Belt brawl, booze-related debates have flared recently in a number of states.

In Virginia, for instance, sangria was the talk of the statehouse after a Spanish restaurant was cited for illegally mixing brandy with wine, in violation of a 1930s-era statute. Idaho lawmakers may soon amend the criminal code to permit vodka sales on election days. And in Colorado, lawmakers have considered rescinding a law that bans supermarkets (but not liquor stores) from selling wine with more than 3.2% alcohol content.

Here in Alabama, home-brewing beer has long been a Class A misdemeanor, with a penalty of up to a year in jail and a $2,000 fine.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: beer; homebrewing
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

For every good homebrewer there are 100 hacks.


21 posted on 03/10/2008 10:22:57 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Most homebrewers don’t wait till their beer is ready.


22 posted on 03/10/2008 10:24:42 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: Southern Partisan

I’ll tell you what, if the anti alcohol crowd had any brains whatsoever, they’d ban all alcohol EXCEPT homemade beer and wine. THen you’d really see a reduction of consumed alcohol.


23 posted on 03/10/2008 10:24:51 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: pissant
For every good homebrewer there are 100 hacks.

Can just about say this regarding commercial brewers too.

24 posted on 03/10/2008 10:28:44 AM PDT by Prokopton
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Sensitive Beer: “a taste that starts out astringent, like cheap red wine, then mellows into a silky chocolate flavor, with fleeting notes of coffee and cinnamon”. Wait, what!?

Beer is beer, the cheap, yellow-gold beverage of choice of many men. Go sing your silky, fleeting, bleating notes in San Francisco, or Paris-and-Milan, you transplanted w(h)ine snobs.


25 posted on 03/10/2008 10:28:55 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Hillary: "The harder she works, the worse it gets for the Dems." R. Cohen, WaPost (paraphrase)
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To: MEGoody

I certainly wouldn’t but I also don’t like the Feds forcing states to comply with national drinking ages or speed limits either.


26 posted on 03/10/2008 10:29:10 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Prokopton

Yep. Except they purposely make them the way they “like” them, generally. Or the way they think they will sell.


27 posted on 03/10/2008 10:30:18 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: vietvet67

They sell lightning in quart jars in the ABC stores in Alabama.


28 posted on 03/10/2008 10:30:47 AM PDT by DaveArk
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To: Cicero

LOL!


29 posted on 03/10/2008 10:36:00 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: mamelukesabre

Hah! The Great State of North Carolina owns all the ABC stores (the only liquor stores in the whole state!). How’s THAT for state control?


30 posted on 03/10/2008 10:55:11 AM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every "Bright".)
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To: pissant
Most homebrew tastes like crap

Excuse me? Who's homebrew have you been sampling? Surely not mine! :-)

I brewed yesterday...in part because I cannot bring myself to purchase (or drink) supermarket beer.

OK...I cheated a bit, and added 3 lbs. of DME because my mash effiency was atrocious.

But my starting gravity is north of 1.070, and it's gonna be good! ;-)

31 posted on 03/10/2008 11:08:54 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Dog Gone
What kind of wine would only have a 3.2% alcohol content?

LOL...that's what I was wondering! I think that's called "grape juice."

32 posted on 03/10/2008 11:12:13 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: B Knotts

I’ve tasted more banana and butterscotch and yeasty home brews than I care to mention. I know 2 people, out of about 30 who brew, that make a “good” beer. Then again, I’m one picky SOB.


33 posted on 03/10/2008 11:12:51 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I dunno. It’s pretty easy to make fairly decent beer. And it’s not terribly hard to make really good beer.

Homebrewers don’t generally add rice and corn to their beer. So beating the quality of the big brewers is not much of a challenge.


34 posted on 03/10/2008 11:14:40 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: pissant

In their defense, I can only say that some people like fruity-yeasty beers. That’s how Euro-style Hefeweisen is supposed to be. But, yeah...I don’t care for that myself, and I use fairly neutral-tasting yeasts, and am careful about fermentation temperatures (where I suspect some homebrewers have problems; nothing short of bacterial issues will add funky flavors more than fermenting at 80+ degrees).

I homebrew because I enjoy homebrewing; you learn a lot in the process. Well, that and I like to drink homebrew.


35 posted on 03/10/2008 11:18:35 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: flowerplough

WELL SAID!!!!

I detest beer snobs as much as I detest wine snobs.


36 posted on 03/10/2008 11:19:16 AM PDT by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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To: B Knotts
But my starting gravity is north of 1.070

That's porridge, man! Get that down to a FG of 1.015 and you're going to have one kick-ass beer.

37 posted on 03/10/2008 11:19:23 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: vietvet67

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrewing

In November 1978, Congress passed a bill repealing Federal restrictions on the homebrewing of small amounts of beer. Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States, signed the bill into law in February 1979, and many states soon followed suit. However, this bill left individual states free to pass their own laws limiting production. For example, homebrewing is still illegal in the state of Alabama.

http://www.beertown.org/statutes/alabama.htm

Legal Status of Homebrewing in Alabama

Updated: 9/95
State: Alabama
Status: Not Statutorily Recognized

Statute:
Alabama state statue § 28-1-1 prohibits the possession of illegally manufactured alcoholic beverages.

Discussion:
The state of Alabama has both Wet and Dry counties and municipalities. The state maintains a tight control on all alcoholic beverage sale, manufacture, possession, etc. No statutory exception to § 28-1-1 exists for the home production of beer. Furthermore, no statutory exception to § 28-1-1 exists for the home production of wine and/or cider.

Alabama case law illustrates a historical trend in which the court has held homebrew to be a prohibited liquor. Up until the 1950s certain individuals have been convicted for the unlawful possession of prohibited liquor. (see enclosed cases for examples)

Alabama has recently passed the ALABAMA BREWPUB ACT which authorizes limited operation of brewpubs in the state.

Special Provisions:
N/A

State Alcohol Beverage Control Agency:
Alabama Alcoholic Beverage Control Board
P.O. Box 1151
Montgomery, AL 36101
(334) 271-3840
FAX: (334) 244-1815

Note: The information presented here is to the best of our knowledge and should not be used as a substitute for legal advice specific to the laws of your state.


38 posted on 03/10/2008 12:02:46 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Wow. Sounds similar to my wife’s recipe (we do only extract brews right now... not enough space, or equipment to do all grain yet) - Cept, no oatmeal (different grains) and she uses actual baking chocolate and we use almost a full pound of lactose.


39 posted on 03/10/2008 12:15:40 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: pissant

You haven’t tried most homebrew to be making those allegations. So... there... take that. LOL


40 posted on 03/10/2008 12:16:35 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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