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Lawmakers mull regulating salvia, which could be new marijuana
The Miami Herald ^ | March 11, 2008 | JESSICA GRESKO

Posted on 03/11/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by King of Florida

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- On websites touting the mind-blowing powers of salvia divinorum, come-ons to buy the hallucinogenic herb are accompanied by warnings: "Time is running out! ... stock up while you still can."

That's because salvia is being targeted by lawmakers concerned that the inexpensive and easy-to-obtain plant could become the next marijuana. Eight states already have placed restrictions on salvia, and 16 others, including Florida, are considering a ban or have previously.

"As soon as we make one drug illegal, kids start looking around for other drugs they can buy legally. This is just the next one," said Florida state Rep. Mary Brandenburg, who has introduced a bill to make possession of salvia a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.

Some say legislators are overreacting to a minor problem, but no one disputes that the plant impairs judgment and the ability to drive.

Native to Mexico and still grown there, salvia divinorum is generally smoked but can also be chewed or made into a tea.

Called nicknames like Sally-D, Magic Mint and Diviner's Sage, salvia is a hallucinogen that gives users an out-of-body sense of traveling through time and space or merging with inanimate objects. Unlike hallucinogens like LSD or PCP, however, salvia's effects last for a shorter time, generally up to an hour.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


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More solutions to non-problems offered up by the boobs in Tallahassee, while they apparently believe that there is no longer any problem with property taxes.
1 posted on 03/11/2008 7:32:30 AM PDT by King of Florida
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To: King of Florida

I meant to add — I never even heard of this drug. Sounds like a good one, though!


2 posted on 03/11/2008 7:33:39 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida

Can’t have that. People might drink less. Adn we all know that would impact REVENUE.


3 posted on 03/11/2008 7:35:18 AM PDT by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: King of Florida

I admit it, I thought the headline was about regulating saliva. Which wouldn’t happen in George Orwell’s most dystopic nightmare.


4 posted on 03/11/2008 7:44:34 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: King of Florida

mind blowing drugs, whole language and constructivist math, American idol....many Americans love stupidity enhancers.


5 posted on 03/11/2008 7:45:50 AM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: King of Florida

I’ve seen it for sale at my local convenience store, in packets of varying potency. From what I’ve heard its effects can be quite unpleasant, actually, although you could also say that about LSD, peyote, magic mushrooms, etc.

You would think that this: “As soon as we make one drug illegal, kids start looking around for other drugs they can buy legally. This is just the next one,” would give them some clue as to the futility of chasing down this stuff, though. Something else, probably worse with nastier side-effects, will just pop up.


6 posted on 03/11/2008 7:45:56 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: King of Florida

Thank goodness!!!!! I was afraid government was running out of things to regulate.


7 posted on 03/11/2008 7:47:31 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: King of Florida
Whilst scanning the headline, I thought they were talking about this little tidbit,

Saliva from humans has yielded a natural painkiller up to six times more powerful than morphine, researchers say.

The substance, dubbed opiorphin, may spawn a new generation of natural painkillers that relieve pain as well as morphine but without the addictive and psychological side effects of the traditional drug.

When the researchers injected a pain-inducing chemical into rats’ paws, 1 milligram of opiorphin per kilogram of body weight achieved the same painkilling effect as 3 milligrams of morphine.

The substance was so successful at blocking pain that, in a test involving a platform of upended pins, the rats needed six times as much morphine as opiorphin to render them oblivious to the pain of standing on the needle points.

Found the story here Natural-born painkiller found in human saliva Last year.

8 posted on 03/11/2008 7:57:25 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: King of Florida

Semms like tobacco is worse than either of them.


9 posted on 03/11/2008 7:58:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: traviskicks

I wonder how long until the idiots in DC make it a federal ban.


10 posted on 03/11/2008 8:02:07 AM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: King of Florida
I saw Salvia seeds at Wal-Mart yesterday, in with the rest of the flowers.

They sell Salvia plants when they come into season.

Thank God the government is there to protect us from this kind of thing.

11 posted on 03/11/2008 8:02:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: King of Florida
More government attempts to cure stupid.

Nature will find a way, LOL. I can't wait to see the regulations pushed to prevent self-induced Hypocapnia.


12 posted on 03/11/2008 8:22:12 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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Tried it a while back and I have to say there is no rational reason to make this illegal. It gives you a 5 minute trip. Any allusion to impairing you for an hour is ridiculous. I wouldn’t recommend doing brain surgery an hour afterwards, but there is no physical impairment at that lenth of time. By the way, it tastes like waxy poop and yes for awhile your head will increase in size to that of a pumpkin, you might become one entity with the couch, or you may smile and feel your smile just get bigger, and bigger and bigger until it threatens to decapitate you. But you would be hard pressed to get into a dangerous situation in the time before it wears off.
I only got a gram of it and really have no desire to try it again.


13 posted on 03/11/2008 8:32:38 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: King of Florida
Glad I never put them in my garden. I have some dwarf Celosia which even though I'm zone 7 have little self seeding plants sprout up from the year before during the summer.

Wondering if I should continue with the Lantana. I love the look and fragrance. On garden forums many stories of deadly animal poisonings and worries about children. My neighbor says it's also called the Patriot Plant.

14 posted on 03/11/2008 8:56:43 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I saw Salvia seeds at Wal-Mart yesterday, in with the rest of the flowers.

Salvia divinorum seems to be the one in-question that is hallucinogenic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

15 posted on 03/11/2008 9:00:06 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: AmericaUnite

Lantana tends to make cattle loopy...one of my grandad’s neighbors has trouble with it in his pasture...


16 posted on 03/11/2008 9:26:18 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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Lantana tends to make cattle loopy.

It's probably perennial there. I only get the real pretty plants for their flowers 'till frost kills them. It's very poisonous especially the black berry seed pods. I pinch them back to keep them going. The cows probably like the smell.

17 posted on 03/11/2008 9:38:05 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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I admit it, I thought the headline was about regulating saliva.

I did too, until I reread the headline for the third time.
18 posted on 03/11/2008 9:38:06 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: AmericaUnite

yeah, I think it is a perennial here...my landlady has plants in the yard and I always tell her that it’s a weed...

yeah, it was the seeds that were poisonous...now I remember the rest of the story...

I need to get out of the city...


19 posted on 03/11/2008 9:41:24 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: King of Florida

Good grief! Now people who have been growing this for years in their gardens and unaware of the law change get a visit from the ninja squad? Insanity!


20 posted on 03/11/2008 9:46:43 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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