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The Wright Dust-Up Shows and Proves That Many Whites Don’t Know Black People at All
Black America Web ^ | March 16, 2008 | Deborah Mathis

Posted on 03/17/2008 11:41:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The eruption of outrage, shock and fear that is flowing over Barack Obama’s campaign like hot lava because his pastor has preached some strident sermons tells us one thing for certain: Many white people don’t know black people at all.

If they did, they would know that Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago is hardly the only black minister who uses the pulpit to rant against racial duplicity and injustice. The black church has always been the place for letting our hair down and speaking our peace -- a safe haven from the criminations outside. It’s how and why the black church became the nursery for the freedom and civil rights movements. Not every minister seasons his or her sermons with political commentary, and not every one who does is as fiercely spoken as Rev. Wright, but there is nothing unusual about the black clergy as social agitator. Guess the shockees didn’t know that.

It seems they were also clueless that, when race, racism and discrimination do invade the pulpit, it is not always in the context of forgiveness and humility. Much of black America is resentful, angry and distrustful -- rightly so, some of us would say. Did the uninitiated honestly believe that slavery, lynching, Jim Crow, white resistance and flight, economic and educational duality, hyper-incarceration and yawning disparities in wealth, health and longevity have had no lasting effects; that all of that is really no big deal -- something we can kick off as easily as our Sunday shoes?

Surprise.

This could be a teaching moment for the society at large, which would do well to pay closer attention to 35 million of its members and to give heed to their accounts of their own experiences. Unfortunately, and typically, the alarmists are threatening to make it a Waterloo for Obama.

The candidate has denounced Rev. Wright’s statements about America’s treachery, honest as they were.

Obama has even removed his Wright from his ministerial council. That had to be painful for Obama, who has otherwise spoken devotedly of the preacher who “brought me to Jesus,” performed his marriage ceremony and baptized his daughters.

Those pounds of flesh are not enough for the alarmists, however. They and frothing pundit after frothing pundit want the candidate to rebuke Wright categorically -- mind, body and soul.

Obama is in the unenviable position of having to court a large and diverse audience -- the American electorate generally and Democratic voters particularly -- that includes a good number of people who have no knowledge of, curiosity about, nor sympathy for the black experience, while, at the same time, remaining true to what he knows about Rev. Wright specifically and the black church generally.

It’s a delicate balance, and Obama has tried to strike it, explaining to journalists that the anger and disdain expressed by Rev. Wright reflect common themes in “the black memory,” albeit not sentiments he shares.

In a fair world, Obama would be able to elaborate about the black perspective and thereby give some context to Wright’s comments and the facts of black expression.

But, then, in a fair world, there would be no racial divide to bridge. Of course, Obama’s detractors would never consider that.


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To: ExSoldier

Proverbs 25:21-23
21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.

22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the LORD will reward you.


101 posted on 03/17/2008 12:21:08 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MurryMom

you. are. ridiculous.


102 posted on 03/17/2008 12:21:15 PM PDT by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: ChocChipCookie
I think most leftist whites would agree with much of what Rev. Wright said, and take the kooky comments about AIDS, for example, as rhetorical excess.

I believe Obama's chief foreign policy advisor is white.

103 posted on 03/17/2008 12:21:19 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...his pastor has preached some strident sermons ...

Strident? The SOB's been plagarizing snopes.com!

104 posted on 03/17/2008 12:21:36 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“strident sermons”
That’s how he describes angry, hate-filled tirades.

Then he goes on to justify the self-induced pathologies in that community.

Listen. Slavery ended. You’re still living in slavery. It’s over. Get over it!

The people who had slaves are dead. The former slaves are dead.
No one alive today was a slave or held a slave (except in Africa).


105 posted on 03/17/2008 12:21:42 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Many white people don’t know black people at all.....”

That doesn’t excuse racism by any race!!


106 posted on 03/17/2008 12:22:14 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Old Professer

It’d be nice to have more libs around to battle with,

but they usually can’t remain civil enough to avoid getting kicked out.


107 posted on 03/17/2008 12:22:49 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
Obama’s gonna be dumped by the DEMOCRATS for being associated with beliefs that the majority of the far left and many of his supporters believe in.

You certainly have more faith in the Dims than I do.

108 posted on 03/17/2008 12:22:53 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: MurryMom

Ain’t been getting any from Mr Murry?


109 posted on 03/17/2008 12:24:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("I am like...Dude......do you really....like want the Sex?")
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To: MurryMom
There is nothing sanctimonius about that hell hole. It seems to be a Far cry from a church with a heathen antagonizer as the leader. If it is representative of AA churches you are in very deep trouble.
110 posted on 03/17/2008 12:24:38 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: MurryMom
So let me get this straight...Barack Obama’s pastor makes an ill-considered remark in the sanctity of his church, and Obama is called out in the public pulpit and made out to be somehow responsible for it. But, for the last 28 years, lunatic right-wing Christian ministers can spew anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-Arab, anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-science anti-human bile from their cable networks and talk shows; summon the wrath of their god on the Muslim world; and call for the assassination of foreign leaders — and the Republican presidents and politicians who consort with them not only get off scot free, they get away with branding the media as liberal.

In "ill considered remark"? Those were off the CHURCH'S own "Best of DVD's. This is THE HEART of the "theology" at that "church".

This is THE CHURCH and THE preacher that Obama has embraced. For 20 years. The man who "called him to Christ". The one who Baptized him and his kids, who married him. Who gave him the tittle for his second book. OH no, this isn't just some supporter, this is a tar baby that is welded to Obama nice and tight. Obama is one of two things if he claims he didn't know or approve of the "Reverend". He's either A. a liar, or B. stupid. And either way, he's shown himself unfit to be the president.
111 posted on 03/17/2008 12:25:00 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: shuckmaster

Either way it’s a win-win.

Obama obviously holds these views, and is lying about it.

Either he gets dumped, or loses the general by a landslide.

If he does get dumped, the far left and black block vote will be VERY angry.


112 posted on 03/17/2008 12:25:09 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Rev. Wright’s statements about America’s treachery, honest as they were."

The good reverend said that we bombed Hiroshima and Nagaski w/o batting an eye.

Is that honest? When the decision was one of the most difficult decision any leader could make and when the American public has agonized over it from that time to this. Regardless of one's opinion on whether it was the right thing to do, the statement that we did it w/o batting is simply ignorance.

113 posted on 03/17/2008 12:25:15 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many white people don’t know black people at all.

I knew very well that there were thousands of jeremiah Wrights across the country and I'm pleased as punch that many of my brethren are learning what I've long known.

Anti-American racial hate mongers like Wright and the 'congregations' that spur him on and shout Amen to 'God Damn America' don't desreve this country. They don't deserve to live here and they don't deserve the handouts they've recieved at the detriment of the rest of us for the last 40 years!

114 posted on 03/17/2008 12:25:18 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more I read things like this, the more I believe everything Martin Luther King fought for has been completely ignored by those who invoke his name the loudest.


115 posted on 03/17/2008 12:25:56 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So they all want God to "damn" America?

Good to know .. I feel like I know them all much better now.

116 posted on 03/17/2008 12:26:19 PM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: MurryMom

Wow, what a liar you are.

Typical liberal.


117 posted on 03/17/2008 12:26:19 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: Pietro

Leading dhimmirat on Meet the Press yesterday:

“why’d we drop a second one days later? that was unnecessary”


118 posted on 03/17/2008 12:26:31 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: visualops

mark for self


119 posted on 03/17/2008 12:29:08 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is truly amazing to me is the way that Black "activists" on behalf of civil rights always seem to be able to make their brand of racism seem normal and even acceptable, while outrage expressed outside the black community over black attitudes is racist in and of itself!

The answer I think, lies in the depths of guilt harbored by white liberals. These folks seem to be in constant turmoil and extreme angst over stuff for which they personally could have had no control! Maybe that's the issue. Liberals are frustrated control freaks.

120 posted on 03/17/2008 12:29:37 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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