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The Wright Dust-Up Shows and Proves That Many Whites Don’t Know Black People at All
Black America Web ^ | March 16, 2008 | Deborah Mathis

Posted on 03/17/2008 11:41:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The eruption of outrage, shock and fear that is flowing over Barack Obama’s campaign like hot lava because his pastor has preached some strident sermons tells us one thing for certain: Many white people don’t know black people at all.

If they did, they would know that Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago is hardly the only black minister who uses the pulpit to rant against racial duplicity and injustice. The black church has always been the place for letting our hair down and speaking our peace -- a safe haven from the criminations outside. It’s how and why the black church became the nursery for the freedom and civil rights movements. Not every minister seasons his or her sermons with political commentary, and not every one who does is as fiercely spoken as Rev. Wright, but there is nothing unusual about the black clergy as social agitator. Guess the shockees didn’t know that.

It seems they were also clueless that, when race, racism and discrimination do invade the pulpit, it is not always in the context of forgiveness and humility. Much of black America is resentful, angry and distrustful -- rightly so, some of us would say. Did the uninitiated honestly believe that slavery, lynching, Jim Crow, white resistance and flight, economic and educational duality, hyper-incarceration and yawning disparities in wealth, health and longevity have had no lasting effects; that all of that is really no big deal -- something we can kick off as easily as our Sunday shoes?

Surprise.

This could be a teaching moment for the society at large, which would do well to pay closer attention to 35 million of its members and to give heed to their accounts of their own experiences. Unfortunately, and typically, the alarmists are threatening to make it a Waterloo for Obama.

The candidate has denounced Rev. Wright’s statements about America’s treachery, honest as they were.

Obama has even removed his Wright from his ministerial council. That had to be painful for Obama, who has otherwise spoken devotedly of the preacher who “brought me to Jesus,” performed his marriage ceremony and baptized his daughters.

Those pounds of flesh are not enough for the alarmists, however. They and frothing pundit after frothing pundit want the candidate to rebuke Wright categorically -- mind, body and soul.

Obama is in the unenviable position of having to court a large and diverse audience -- the American electorate generally and Democratic voters particularly -- that includes a good number of people who have no knowledge of, curiosity about, nor sympathy for the black experience, while, at the same time, remaining true to what he knows about Rev. Wright specifically and the black church generally.

It’s a delicate balance, and Obama has tried to strike it, explaining to journalists that the anger and disdain expressed by Rev. Wright reflect common themes in “the black memory,” albeit not sentiments he shares.

In a fair world, Obama would be able to elaborate about the black perspective and thereby give some context to Wright’s comments and the facts of black expression.

But, then, in a fair world, there would be no racial divide to bridge. Of course, Obama’s detractors would never consider that.


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To: MurryMom

WOW! You do exist. I thought you were a bogeyman (bogeyperson? person-of-boginess? Bogey-of-non-specific-gender?) that the old-timers scared the noobs with.


121 posted on 03/17/2008 12:31:19 PM PDT by OSHA (The best NY Dems can do is #9?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jesus was about peace, love and forgiveness. He NEVER gave a sermon like the ones Wright routinely gives. And using the lords name in vain, isn’t that something to be frowned on Rev?

And BTW, unlike some groups, white Americans aren’t so comfortable with racism that they tolerate it in their churches.


122 posted on 03/17/2008 12:32:34 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: MrB
“why’d we drop a second one days later? that was unnecessary”

Leave it to the conservatives to have to defend a democrat president. Truth is that after the first one the Japanese were given and opportunity to surrender and refused. Hence, Nagasaki.

123 posted on 03/17/2008 12:33:09 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: MurryMom
I see you've crawled out from under your rock again. Are you excusing Jeremiah Wright's racism?

Would you please name one "lunatic right-wing Christian minister [that spews] anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-Arab, anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-science anti-human bile from [his or her] cable network and talk show"?

124 posted on 03/17/2008 12:33:32 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Great analysis.


125 posted on 03/17/2008 12:33:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: MrB
"One thing that struck me funny was when he demanded to know why we had to drop a second A-Bomb on Japan when one was clearly more than enough.

Well, Mr. Leftwing Historical Ignoramus - the Japanese refused to surrender after the first one.

Just goes to prove, you HAVE to be ignorant to be a leftist/dhimmirat."

I'm in the middle of reading "Flags of Our Fathers", which is an account of what happened on Iwo Jima and the fate of the 6 flag raisers on Mt. Suribachi. Almost every one of the 22,000 Japanese defenders of Iwo were killed and our own casualties were enormous. And this was just a tiny island hundreds of miles away from mainland Japan, but was considered Japanese homeland.

Now imagine how hard they would have fought if we had tried an invasion of the main island of Japan???? How many Japanese would have been killed??? Many, many times more than what were lost at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

So many Purple Hearts were made in anticipation of a Japanese invasion, that since it didn't happen, they are still awarding Purple Hearts today, that were made during WWII. My grandfather could have been awarded one or even killed, but thankfully we dropped 2 atomic bombs and ended the war before he had to ship out. I thank Harry S. Truman for my life.

I for one, will never feel sorry for dropping 2 A-bombs on Japan. They deserved far worse, but luckily their vanquishers, were morally superior to them.

126 posted on 03/17/2008 12:35:01 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1. I know black people; thus, this came as no surprise.

2. “Much of black America is resentful, angry and distrustful — rightly so, some of us would say. Did the uninitiated honestly believe that slavery, lynching, Jim Crow”

Most of those most angry did not personally experience any of this.

3. “white resistance and flight”? Anyone read Michelle Obama’s thesis?

4. “economic and educational duality, hyper-incarceration and yawning disparities in wealth, health and longevity”

Who’s to blame for that? It’s always external causes, never internal. White America has been looking in the mirror for decades now and changing accordingly. It’s time other groups do the same. I don’t see the same disparaties among Asian Americans. Nor Indian Americans. Maybe, just maybe, this is a little more complex than Whitey’s fault.


127 posted on 03/17/2008 12:35:19 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: Pietro

Just goes to show how ignorant you MUST be in order to be a dhimmirat.

Their solution would have been to try to see what they could have given the Japanese in order to postpone more hostilities.


128 posted on 03/17/2008 12:35:56 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whether Deborah wants to acknowledge it or not, the issue WRT the presidential campaign is whether BHO really is a uniter as he claims, or a divider, as this whole Wright thing is showing him to be.

I’m an ugly old white guy, and I don’t feel united by Obama’s handling of the thing at all. I feel very divided, especially when I read articles like Mathis’.

Deborah has nary a clue that she is hurting, not helping, Obama in his WH quest with columns like this one.


129 posted on 03/17/2008 12:36:58 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This could be a teaching moment for the society at large, which would do well to pay closer attention to 35 million of its members and to give heed to their accounts of their own experiences. Unfortunately, and typically, the alarmists are threatening to make it a Waterloo for Obama...

Oh, I think it's a teaching moment all right...we may have come to the tipping point on White Guilt. Many may decide to stop blaming themselves for not being able to make peace with someone who wants war.

In a fair world, Obama would be able to elaborate about the black perspective and thereby give some context to Wright’s comments and the facts of black expression.

But, then, in a fair world, there would be no racial divide to bridge. Of course, Obama’s detractors would never consider that.

We just want to know what he thinks...why would I have any interest in voting for someone who felt justified in lying to me?

Same goes for Hillary...she's no less radical, she just benefits from friends and supporters who are more discreet...and an opponent not so ruthless as her.

130 posted on 03/17/2008 12:37:49 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually Jeremiah Wright and Borat Obama are white people..
What... What.. did I say something wrong.. What?..
131 posted on 03/17/2008 12:39:13 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The author characterizes people primarily by the colour of their skin.

She's a racist.

She writes for a website that appeals to folks primarily because of the colour of their skin.

The website is also racist.

132 posted on 03/17/2008 12:40:49 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mdmathis6

Anyone who associates with this kind of thinking for 20 years DOES NOT belong anywhere near the White House.


133 posted on 03/17/2008 12:43:00 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is shallow minded...

Most whites know this about the extreme in African America. But, they do not dare say anything about it because they’d label themselves a bigot. So, they stay silent, and at times, pander, patronize, and ogle the black man so they appear diversity minded.

Put ‘em all on a lie detector and ask some direct questions. If you did this before the Wright fiasco, the results would be very close to the same as doing it now.

But, who knows... Maybe a couple hundred more television commercials and TV programming with white women with black men will curve these racist roots in both races... /s


134 posted on 03/17/2008 12:44:33 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Trueblackman
The thing that gets me is how one person or segment believes that they can speak on behalf of a much larger population.

As if black people are plain, easy to read, general issue, and all pretty much like all the other blacks across the whole USA.

There's no such thing as 'one size fits all' when it comes to people. Not in golfers, mailmen, CEOs, cowboys, Olympic athletes, waitresses, Catholics, or shrimp boat captains.

I can't even speak for my next door neighbor, so where does this chick get off?

135 posted on 03/17/2008 12:44:40 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Trueblackman

bttt


136 posted on 03/17/2008 12:45:11 PM PDT by xone
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To: MurryMom

Well hi, MM! Is it Internet hour at the hospital?


137 posted on 03/17/2008 12:45:53 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So I guess the author won’t be offended then if white America rejects her candidate because he’s a racist who just happens to hide his racism.

He’s just a racist with a tan....


138 posted on 03/17/2008 12:46:12 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Hmmm...


139 posted on 03/17/2008 12:47:27 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Access to her thesis was just posted by LJayne. You can read the racist thesis there.Michelle Obama thesis was on racial divide from POLITICO...
140 posted on 03/17/2008 12:48:17 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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