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'Do-over is dead' (Michigan Primary re-vote)
Politico.com ^ | March 19 2008 | Ben Smith

Posted on 03/19/2008 2:17:31 PM PDT by jveritas

The headline from MIRS, Michigan's Hotline:

Ding-Dong, Do-Over Primary Is Dead

"Time of death for the do-over Michigan primary? Call it at about 11 a.m. today."

A Lansing insider IMs to explain the latest development:

The Senate Dems just had a long caucus meeting following their long phone call with the Gang of Four [as Carl Levin and others pushing a re-vote are called], and the result is that no one moved. Votes aren't there. Thus, it will not go to a vote in the Senate. And barring some other last minute miracle that doesn't involve those four, the governor and Hillary traveling to Michigan, it is dead as a doornail.

UPDATE: State Sen. Tupac Hunter, an Obama supporter, confirms the outcome of today's meeting.

"The caucus has expressed again today that there is concern about the proposal and a great deal of unreadiness," he said, saying that sentiment is still "overwhelming."

"We informed the four great Democrats who have worked very hard to come up with a solution," he said. "It’s one of those things where you can agree to disagree. The question then becomes, What do we do now?"


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: doover; elections; hillary; mccain; mi2008; nobama; obama
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To: top 2 toe red
The destruction of Obama candidacy must be stopped by our side, enough is enough. Hillary Clinton will be much tougher candidate to beat in the general elections.
21 posted on 03/19/2008 2:53:40 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: detch

You are correct...now, add Sean-Wanna-Be-Rush-When-Grow-Up-Hannity to this list.


22 posted on 03/19/2008 2:55:32 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (Nope. No capital letters for the clintons, bill or hill, ever again.)
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To: detch

Let me guess... Savage listener?


23 posted on 03/19/2008 2:56:38 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jveritas

Good, let’s finally bury Her Royal Thighness, and take on the Black Panther Party nominee Obama.


24 posted on 03/19/2008 2:57:57 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Lady Heron

McCain freaks out in debate with Obama and goes on a racist tirade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbrEbEyheM


25 posted on 03/19/2008 3:00:03 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jveritas
Agreed...now who do I need to gag and tie up until after Denver is a done deal and who are you taking responsibility for?
26 posted on 03/19/2008 3:00:38 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (Nope. No capital letters for the clintons, bill or hill, ever again.)
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To: All

27 posted on 03/19/2008 3:09:22 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: cdchik123
They will likely be seated now only after a nominee is established.

I've been thinking that for a while, but here is another scenario -

In a situation where neither candidate has enough delegates to win on the first round of voting, the DNC could decide to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations in the event of a second round.

28 posted on 03/19/2008 3:10:04 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("If someone who has access to the press says something over and over again, people believe it"- B.C.)
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To: jveritas
I live in Florida and have been active in politics here since 1981.
I have said from the start that there would be no “do overs” in any party here.

As far as the dems are concerned it would be nothing but a group of one legged men at an ass kicking contest.

“You f***ed up!”
“No, you f***ed up!”
“No, YOU f***ed up!”
“No, YOU f***ed up!

IOW, a lot of very important people in the DNC, the various states, and in the democrat party would have to admit that they made a colossal blunder. - Never going to happen

29 posted on 03/19/2008 3:17:11 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: jveritas

If neither wins on the first vote, can’t delegates just vote for anyone they choose? Just in the days before primaries.

Wonder who the Dem insiders would pick?


30 posted on 03/19/2008 3:18:22 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: The Forgotten Man

maybe in the GE but dems and superdelegates likely dont care. no way do they give the nomination to hillary and risk riots/shutting down their black base.


31 posted on 03/19/2008 3:20:10 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: jveritas
Hillary Clinton will be much tougher candidate to beat in the general elections.

Hear hear! IMO, Hillary is unbeatable by any republican.

You, I, and two poodles could beat Obama. - put another way,
if the GOP cannot beat Obama then it had best pack up and leave Dodge, because it cannot defeat anyone at all

32 posted on 03/19/2008 3:21:40 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: jveritas

This may be bad for Hillary, but I think it’s worse for Dems in general. With no do-over, there’s really no chance to put this behind them before the Convention. A do-over may not have satisfied everyone, but this festering sore won’t satisfy anyone.

Well, it satisfies me.


33 posted on 03/19/2008 3:25:02 PM PDT by Burma Jones
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To: cdchik123
like kristol said, i dont think the media can sustain this story for weeks.

I wonder about that. This is the kind of thing that really changes a person's perception of the candidate. Look at the sharp drop in today's polls. The six or eight (or whatever) percent of people who saw that and said "I just can't vote for a guy who's associated with a hate group like that." They're not coming back.

This is really bad for the D's. If Mac is beating HRC and BHO by 6-8 points now (latest Zogby), what's this going to look like after a contentious convention and folks really take a long hard look at whom they're going to trust with the POTUS vote?

34 posted on 03/19/2008 3:26:38 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: cdchik123
>no way do they give the nomination to hillary and risk riots/shutting down their black base.

They are very likely to do exactly that.

They can be at least minimally comfortable with the assurance that most of the black vote will certainly vote dem until they are replaced with the Hispanic voters.

And that is what is happening right now.

35 posted on 03/19/2008 3:27:11 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: P.O.E.

gore?


36 posted on 03/19/2008 3:27:40 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: bill1952

no way do dims take away the nomination from the first “black” presidential candidate imo. that would make hillary just as unelectable as obama seems right now.


37 posted on 03/19/2008 3:33:06 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: jveritas

Hillary ain’t dead yet. Obama’s Uncle Jeremiah Wright’s video gave a Clinton a gift they have rarely had. Thanks to Jeremiah Wright, Hillary has the moral high ground, something a Clinton may not know what to do with, or capable of holding on to for very long.


38 posted on 03/19/2008 3:37:42 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: cdchik123

8^)

Buy your beverages of choice, relax and watch the free show.
We shall see what transpires very shortly after Pa/NC.

IMO, no Clinton ever goes into the shadows willingly, but I could be wrong about that, I suppose.


39 posted on 03/19/2008 3:50:18 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: July 4th

LOL


40 posted on 03/19/2008 3:58:06 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (NAFTA opponents are an odd coalition of the no-deodorant Left and the toothless-and-tinfoil right.)
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