Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

SEC probes speculation about Bear Stearns
Los Angeles Times ^ | 3/19/08 | n/a

Posted on 03/19/2008 7:48:21 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim

U.S. regulators are investigating whether traders illegally sought to force Bear Stearns Cos. shares into a tailspin last week by spreading false information about the firm's finances, two people familiar with the inquiry said.

The Securities and Exchange Commission probe is focusing on whether hedge funds or other investors bet on a drop in the company's shares while spreading rumors that the New York firm was nearing collapse, said the people, who declined to be identified because the inquiry isn't public.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bearstearns; finance; investments; soros
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-30 next last

1 posted on 03/19/2008 7:48:22 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim

After what happened, how false could the information have been?


2 posted on 03/19/2008 7:50:27 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Well, the same two guys must be spreading rumors about MER now, the volume in the deep out of the money puts is absurd, they are gonna try and take it down like Bear.


3 posted on 03/19/2008 7:50:33 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim
The damage is done. The sheeple just bought another TRILLOIN dollars of mismanagement & were CLUELESS. In fact if they knew they wouldn't care - as long as the trains ran on time. In a knowledgeable world Paulson would have been strung up by today.
4 posted on 03/19/2008 7:53:22 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim

70 on Friday down to 4 on Monday. Sounds normal. /s


5 posted on 03/19/2008 7:54:40 PM PDT by eyedigress
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim

So Fed and JPM acted on the basis of rumors?


6 posted on 03/19/2008 7:57:11 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SlapHappyPappy
After what happened, how false could the information have been?

that's good logic. it's like saying the guy who shot you was right when he predicted your demise.

7 posted on 03/19/2008 7:57:39 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("blogging" is not journalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand

Not quite the same. The negative stories about Bear Sterns appear to have been totally accurate. The company was in such poor condition it was liquidated for less than the value of their headquarters building. They didn’t sell at $2 a share because of their overwhelming financial health.


8 posted on 03/19/2008 8:00:11 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
So Fed and JPM acted on the basis of rumors?

Indirectly. Reacted is more accurate.

Rumors caused creditors to cut and run.

Industry capital minimums could not be met without the credit. Liquidation of assets is mandated by regulations to maintain capital ratios.

Bear was facing bankruptcy upon the removal of credit (as would any of its industry peers and most businesses).

9 posted on 03/19/2008 8:01:18 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("blogging" is not journalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SlapHappyPappy
Not quite the same. The negative stories about Bear Sterns appear to have been totally accurate. The company was in such poor condition it was liquidated for less than the value of their headquarters building. They didn’t sell at $2 a share because of their overwhelming financial health.

They didn't sell at $2 per share at all. The deal is proposed, not done. Furthermore, the stock closed over $5 today.

What's you're net worth? If you bank withdrew your mortgage, would you be able to finance your house yourself?

Since you'll probably answer "yes I could," I'll assure you that no financial institution can operate without willing creditors. That's what this is all about.

10 posted on 03/19/2008 8:03:59 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("blogging" is not journalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim

I have wondered the exact same thing.


11 posted on 03/19/2008 8:04:03 PM PDT by WoofDog123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand

How far can this rumor thing go - seems like nothing is immune now.


12 posted on 03/19/2008 8:05:47 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
How far can this rumor thing go - seems like nothing is immune now.

Witch hunts. Dotcom bubbles. Tulip Bulb Manias. Extermination of tens of millions of neighbors just because...

This is nothing new.

13 posted on 03/19/2008 8:07:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("blogging" is not journalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
manias reach a manic exteme. then the collective players sort of come back to their senses.

demolishing an operation like bear stearns and giving it way might just be one of them. But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't all over.

14 posted on 03/19/2008 8:08:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("blogging" is not journalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim

the former CEO of Overstock.com has been shouting from the rooftops that this is what happened to his company. I don’t know what the truth is in this instance. I do know that anyone who trusts Wall Street with his money is a damn fool.


15 posted on 03/19/2008 8:10:02 PM PDT by kms61
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SlapHappyPappy
After what happened, how false could the information have been?

Essentially, something caused a "run on the bank." If not for that Bear probably could have survived.

16 posted on 03/19/2008 8:11:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand
I'll assure you that no financial institution can operate without willing creditors.

ie: Enron.

17 posted on 03/19/2008 8:28:55 PM PDT by Orange1998
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SlapHappyPappy
After what happened, how false could the information have been?

Hard to say in this case, but this kind of crap goes on all the time. Even Cramer admits it.

18 posted on 03/19/2008 8:31:28 PM PDT by freespirited (A government big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.- Barry Goldwater)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one. -Charles Mackay
19 posted on 03/19/2008 8:36:15 PM PDT by lesser_satan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: kiriath_jearim

Bulls hate the bearish rumors and scream for the SEC but entirely overlook bullish rumors. They consider the latter to be “price discovery” LOL


20 posted on 03/19/2008 8:38:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-30 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson