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Paul to GOP: Why don't you Neocon Constitution-haters like me?
Red State ^ | March 20, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 03/20/2008 7:11:35 AM PDT by jdm

Representative Ron Paul, Republican nominee for Congress in Texas district 14, believes there is a 'New Right' conspiracy against him in the GOP.

Despite the fact that he shifted effort from his Presidential campaign to ensure he beat the mainstream Republican, Chris Peden, in the Texas 14 primary, and that he still has neither endorsed John McCain for President nor even acknowledged that he needs to work with McCain to ensure Republican victory in November, Paul thinks the burden is on the party to come to him.

Read on...

Says the Washington Times:

The Texas congressman says neither he nor his supporters have heard from Mr. McCain or Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan since March 4, when the Arizona senator accumulated enough delegates to clinch the party's presidential nomination.

"I don't think they want them," Mr. Paul told The Washington Times, adding that indifference doesn't surprise him because the party's establishment has deserted traditional conservative principles for big government and foreign intervention.

"We don't agree with them," he says. "We agree with the Old Right, and they're the New Right, which is 'The Wrong,' [because] the New Right has morphed into neoconservative."

Look, Congressman, it's very simple: You have sold yourself as a Republican to the voters in your home district. They believed it, but the rest of us are not bound to do the same. After all your outlandish rhetoric this campaign season, the burden is on you to prove that you are back in the fold by endorsing John McCain for President. Just take that one step, and that will prove we can work with you.

Had you won the Republican nomination, surely anyone who failed to back you would have been relegated to Republican in Name Only status, and been held up for mockery and attack. The time has come for you to hold up your end of the deal and avoid that fate. Nobody will ask you to campaign for Senator McCain, though it would be nice of you to do some outreach to your supporters. Just ask your supporters to vote for him, though, in one simple, unambiguous statement. I have no connections inside the national GOP, but I have to believe that is all anyone wants.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: constitution; gop; lunatic; ronpaul
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To: Perdogg; xzins

“...Ron Paul is a liberal as John Murtha.”

I’m with xzins. Make your case. I don’t think that you can do it.

I don’t agree with Paul on a few things — the war being the biggest one — but he is not a liberal.


41 posted on 03/20/2008 8:49:54 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: ari-freedom

I know a way to get term limits WITHOUT doing “constitutionally questionable” things.

Support a law that progressively invests in congressional pay/pensions/benefits up to the 12 year mark and then progressively disinvests in them for each term afterwards.

2 years = 16%
4 years = 32%%
6 years = 48%
12 years = 100%
14 years = 84%
16 years = 68%
18 years = 50%
20 years = 25%
24 years = 0%

They are free to stay, but they lose pay and benefits once they pass the 12 year mark.

Career politicians are not an indispensable commodity.


42 posted on 03/20/2008 9:26:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Harvey105

but he is a liberal on the war


43 posted on 03/20/2008 9:47:58 AM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: xzins

I like that idea


44 posted on 03/20/2008 9:48:44 AM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: xzins

Fix the pay of elected officials to precisely the median income of their jurisdiction (i.e. all federal elected officials get the US income median as their compensation). Term limits and corrective behavior incentives all in one package.


45 posted on 03/20/2008 9:50:24 AM PDT by Content Provider
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To: april15Bendovr

That video sucks as much now as when you first posted it.


46 posted on 03/20/2008 10:25:22 AM PDT by jmc813 (The Who - Join Together '89 = Great live album. Check it.)
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To: ari-freedom
neo-con usually refers to foreign policy.

If you supported the war with iraq because you thought saddam had to be taken out because he was a threat to the US, you may not necessarily be a neo-con.

If you supported the war because you want to turn iraq into a democracy or because you thought Saddam deserved it because he oppressed his own people, then you are a neo-con.

Your above post is mostly correct but you leave out that neo-con foreign policy is liberal foreign policy - nation-building, world policing, etc. So, it's amazing your next post calls Ron Paul 'liberal' on the war.

It's you who's liberal on the war, by your own admission of being a neo-con. The goal-posts have been moved, cleverly, and conservatism redefined by globalist, New World Order types.

If you supported the war because you want to turn iraq into a democracy or because you thought Saddam deserved it because he oppressed his own people, then you are a neo-con.

How many other dictators oppress their own people? How many countries aren't democracies? Do you propose invading each, or just 1 every 5-10 years?

47 posted on 03/20/2008 10:55:55 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished
“You're showing total ignorance. Ron Paul is NOT a neo-con. Most likely YOU are the neo-con, if you agree with most of what Bush has been doing.”

LOL!

Want to see an ignorant soul - look in the mirror!

I don't have to “agree” with Bush to NOT be a Ron Paul supporter - this kind of “logic” is typical of the irrational and loony Ron Paul supporters. I'm so glad the idiot LOST. He is a loser and always will be. It doesn't matter how many times he runs - he has NO influence and NO impact on anything because he is a lunatic.

48 posted on 03/20/2008 11:02:25 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Content Provider
nmh clearly doesn’t understand what a “neo-con” is - that would be George Bush/John McCain types - but his post record indicates that nmh is not a neo-con himself. Neo-cons don’t protest open borders, and neo-cons welcome the leftward movement of the GOP.

It’s an interesting thread to have this discussion in, considering that the neo-cons are the ones who decided the “Big Tent” had room for global warming chicken littles and big government socialists and anti-freedom crusaders, but no room for small-government libertarians and paleocons (traditional conservatives).


Ron Paul is another neo-con.

The “big tent” is what destroyed the GOP and people like Ron Paul make also destroy the GOP with their loony political rhetoric. Ron Paul turns the GOP into a joke. Ron Paul needs a softly padded rubber room to help him recuperate.

49 posted on 03/20/2008 11:04:48 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

You’re out of your mind.


50 posted on 03/20/2008 11:09:45 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished

“You’re out of your mind.”

Thank you!

From a Ron Paul supporter, I take that as a COMPLIMENT!

I am NO Ron Paul supporter!


51 posted on 03/20/2008 11:16:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: xzins
I know a way to get term limits WITHOUT doing “constitutionally questionable” things.

Support a law that progressively invests in congressional pay/pensions/benefits up to the 12 year mark and then progressively disinvests in them for each term afterwards.
< snip>

Not bad, but it would drive out just about everybody but Ron Paul.

Paul has refused to participate in the Congressional pension system, and he's returned $75,000 from his office budget from last year.

How'd your congresscritter do?

52 posted on 03/20/2008 11:27:39 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: nmh
Ron Paul is another neo-con.

Out of thousands of freepers, I can honestly say that you're probably the only one to think this. Congratulations.

53 posted on 03/20/2008 12:19:21 PM PDT by jmc813 (The Who - Join Together '89 = Great live album. Check it.)
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To: jdm
Maybe it's because you're an anti Semitic surrender monkey lunatic, but that's just me guessing.
54 posted on 03/20/2008 1:20:49 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: Swordfished

it is liberal to blame America for 9/11 and run out of Iraq even if it means that al qaeda takes over and uses it as a base for terrorist operations.
A liberal tries to ‘understand’ al qaeda. Let’s get real: muslims are for a caliphate, universal sharia law and dhimmitude whether or not we are in Saudi Arabia or not. It’s part of their religion.
That’s something neither Bush nor Ron paul understands. Islam is not a religion of peace and they will fight us no matter what we do.


55 posted on 03/20/2008 1:41:23 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: nmh
"I don’t LIKE him because he is a NEO CON."

You might do well to look up the definition of a Neo-con.

BTW: I'm curious; just exactly WHY do you hate Ron Paul?

Are you a banker or a politician?

Perhaps you are an abortionist, or a liberal gun-grabber?

Oh, wait, I've got it; you stand to gain a fortune in the upcoming new world order.

Come on, tell us your stake in this.

56 posted on 03/20/2008 2:00:33 PM PDT by Designer
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To: ari-freedom
"..but he is a liberal on the war.."

Only if you define conservatism as American military imperialism.

57 posted on 03/20/2008 2:03:27 PM PDT by Designer
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To: Swordfished; nmh
"You’re out of your mind."

nmh is definitey uninformed.

58 posted on 03/20/2008 2:05:36 PM PDT by Designer
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To: Designer

I think reagan defines modern conservatism.


59 posted on 03/20/2008 2:08:16 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: All
I have no stake in this.

Ron Paul is a LIBERALtarian.

He lost as expected.

What is there to discuss about this idiot?

“The people have spoken. They don't want Ron Paul.”

Ron Paul is your typical self centered LIBERAL.

He fits in well with the Demoncrats

against the war

legalizing illegal drugs - which I believe he is overdosing on .... symPATHETIC to homos etc..

Only IDIOTS would want him for anything.

Happy to see he is irrelevant.

60 posted on 03/20/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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