Posted on 03/21/2008 1:38:54 AM PDT by cpforlife.org
Ive been thinking about this for some time. I just did a bit of googeling but found no satisfactory answers, really none at all.
Many jobs require background checks. Law Enforcement and military get even greater scrutiny, and as the job level and contact with sensitive data increases the level of scrutiny goes up.
Do presidential candidates undergo Security background checks? If not, WHY NOT.
Could Clinton or Obama pass a security background check for a high level job at say the FBI or CIA?
If someone were to apply to those agencies and it was found out that their husband was convicted of lying under oath to a Federal Grand Jury and was Impeached from his job and lost his law license would that raise a red flag. Not to mention all the other scandalous things Hillary was involved in herself.
Could Obama with his ties to Rezko, his questionable purchase of his home and adjacent property, pass a security background check? What about his connections to a radical America hating pastor who, with Farrakhan visited Libya. Is that a "red flag"?
And now this: Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto--Charter calls for murder of Jews http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1988986/posts?page=1 Is that a "red flag"?
Do politicians at a certain level simply get a free pass?
Im guessing many Freepers are in jobs that may have some special insight into this and it would be great to get a perspective on all this.
The timing of this post is not optimal but I figured I should do it now. I wont be around too much with Easter weekend but hope to visit and see some good Freeper feedback.
Happy Easter to all.
God Bless America!
“Because the Constitution enumerates the requirements to be President, and security check isnt one of them.”
That’s how it is.
But do you think such a check could look like ?
Let me guess how a computer program to determine this would look
boolean check_candidate( Candidate x ) {
/* assume everybody who’s not clearly
* identified as beeing good is on
* the axis of evil. So invalid is default.
*/
boolean is_candidate_valid = false;
// Top three NO GOs
if ( x.party != “GOP” ) return false;
if ( x.religion != “CHRISTIAN” ) return false;
if ( x.skincolor < 0xFFFFFF ) return false;
// Things that qualify as candidate
if ( x.age > TOO_OLD_TO_HAVE_A_OUTER_MARRIAGE_AFFAIR ) {
is_candidate_valid = true;
}
if ( x.mind != “OPEN” ){
is_candidate_valid = true;
}
return is_candidate_valid;
}
We here in FreeRepublic try to use the written word to communicate effectively ... and try to use our faculties to understand what others write.
I believe what Mr Ramsbotham wrote was an opinion based on what a person had done and not necesarily on what that person was.
Of course, it could be interpreted otherwise ... like, once a wife beater, always a wife beater, distrust anyone under 30, and a ton of et cetera's.
We are all a product of all that has gone before us ... and if experience is of any value .. then experiance is of all value.
The President runs the Executive Branch, not the other way around.
WHY NOT?
Because at upper elite globalist levels and too many lower chunks and levels . . .
our society has been traitorously, UNConstitutionally suicidal for decades.
Supreme Court justices are vetted more rigorously
Though at the time, we had few foreign born naturalized citizens when we did, it became a much more difficult process.
As more most American, depending on the level of clearance (Secret, Top Secret, etc.) we managed to learn just about everything there was to know about them.
Thus not surprising, many of those who hold high public office, would never qualify for even a Confidential-level clearance if they were subjected to the same standards as others.
Moreover, many would never want to have their past see the light of day.
I beg do differ.
As the President is CIC, all subordinates from the Chairman of the JCS to the lowliest Private, MUST necessarily be scrutinized prior to being given access to classified material.
Thus, I'm in favor of a requirement for anyone who will be holding office on a federal level (Including Congress as well as the POTUS) should be held to the same standard.
As for the "committee" you refer to, that's a no brainer.
Once a thorough background investigation is completed, then the final report is simply released in an objective manner and "we" the electorate would get to decide whether that person deserves to be trusted or not.
We have to keep on pushing, and we will, but I am not sure that we need a centrally coordinated response, or that a centrally coordinated response would be as effective.
Not necessarily so (SEE my post #46)
There could easily be parameters pre-set, much as there is in place for anyone else, seeking a security clearance.
When I conducted same, there were a set criteria which was required to be addressed, such as verifying education, employment, citizenship, date and place of birth, etc.
While I agree on the subjective aspect and one which we utilized such as interviewing neighbors and co-workers, that one would not necessarily need be applied, and simply the facts relating to what one's pertinent background would need be looked into and reported on.
AS AN ASIDE, I'D LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF BARACK'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS IT IS BEEN SAID THAT A MUSLIM'S RELIGION IS SO NOTED ON SAID DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS WHAT IS LISTED AS RACE.
I think that's it.
Do you want to be the LEO who runs the check on his boss?
Go ahead, and let us know how it all worked out for you.
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The POTUS is the one who “owns” the security clearance process because he is the chief of the Executive Branch of our government. If the American people elect a Manchurian candidate, that’s who runs the executive branch. In effect, the elections are the vetting process for security clearances for the President, the Vice President and members of Congress.
How, then, could she have had so much pertinent political/foreign 'experience' there?
Apparently not. Slick Willy could never pass a security background check and he , well....
His illegal 6 week trip to the USSR during the Cold War would have disqualified him out of hand.
Heck, some people don’t think the same man came back from the trip. Reinforced by his handlers making sure any item he touched,ie, a drinking glass at a restaurant was removed. No medical records,etc.
They only undergo what the Consitution says they must undergo.
1) Qualifications (natural born citizen, over 35)
2) Election
The background check is the political process
I call it profiling. You know. When the majority of crimes are caused by young black males, you begin to develop an instinctual distrust of young black males, particularly in certain environments. Jesse Jackson mentioned something along those lines, in saying that when he heard footsteps behind him at night, he felt relieved when finding out that the footsteps originated from a white person.
Or when the vast majority of terrorist acts are committed by young Muslim males, you tend to find it in your best interest to take a heightened security interest in such young, Muslim males.
from Article II, Section I.
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
NOPE, nothing about passing a background check. And neither do I think such power should be ceeded to the flacks and flakes at Foggy Bottom.
When in doubt refer to the U.S. Constitution.
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