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OBAMA: CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN LEADERS HAVE HIJACKED FAITH
www.kxmb.com ^ | Jun 25 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/21/2008 3:41:07 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

. (AP) Senator Barack Obama has told members of his denomination that some conservative Christian leaders have exploited and politicized religion to sow division.

In a 30-minute speech before the national meeting of the United Church of Christ, which supports gay marriage, the Democratic presidential candidate said, "Faith got hijacked, partly because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, all too eager to exploit what divides us." Obama said, "They've told Evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their church, while suggesting to the rest of the country that religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design." Obama said a growing number of evangelicals are concerned about poverty and the environment.


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Dated but newsworthy considering the public is only

beginning to hear of "liberation theology" aka marxism

now.

1 posted on 03/21/2008 3:41:09 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Before this is over, Obama is going to PO a lot of people. Then when Hitlery takes the Super delegates—look out.


2 posted on 03/21/2008 3:43:13 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Para-Ord.45

Senator Obama: We have documented proof that YOUR pastor and spiritual advisor hates whites, damns AmeriKKKa and spews lies about 911, AIDS, drugs and numerous other things! You are toast, Mister!


3 posted on 03/21/2008 3:44:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
- Barack Hussein Obama -


4 posted on 03/21/2008 3:45:18 PM PDT by donna (McCain answers the red phone: "Hola!")
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To: Para-Ord.45

Right, Hussein.

I’m sure God has no opinion on abortion.


5 posted on 03/21/2008 3:45:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Para-Ord.45

What a crock. This guy is self destructing. Idiot.


6 posted on 03/21/2008 3:46:44 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Para-Ord.45
all too eager to exploit what divides us

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot.

7 posted on 03/21/2008 3:48:13 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: unkus

This is looking like an ideal scenario for the “Draft Gore” crowd.


8 posted on 03/21/2008 3:48:30 PM PDT by Content Provider
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To: Para-Ord.45
Obama——What is wrong with this man?
9 posted on 03/21/2008 3:49:19 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: Para-Ord.45

obama’s theology is even more warped than his politics.


10 posted on 03/21/2008 3:49:45 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Your mama.


11 posted on 03/21/2008 3:49:49 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: RGSpincich

Its amazing how this man can condemn christian leaders, say ‘typical white’....and continue to get a free ride. Chris Matthews continues to get tingles up his leg and us whities sit back and allow this to continue...


12 posted on 03/21/2008 3:49:50 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Content Provider

Could be. Algore hates Hitlery too. All the lib BS is going to really start back-firing and wake a lot of people up.


13 posted on 03/21/2008 3:50:14 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Para-Ord.45
Obama constructs a strawman.

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14 posted on 03/21/2008 3:51:23 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: unkus

Finally, the real BHO is being revealed, day by day. This is what he really is and what he really thinks.


15 posted on 03/21/2008 3:51:35 PM PDT by cd jones (Liberals: spreading misery, calling it equality)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Faith got hijacked, partly because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, all too eager to exploit what divides us.” Obama said

Hmm, this from a prevaricator who threw his white Granny under the bus and then backed over her again in the same week, all to defend his robed racist mentor who has spent 20 years using a pulpit to exploit division.

Now - out of curiousity - which “so-called leaders of the Christian right” is the RevRund Obama trying to drag under that bus?


16 posted on 03/21/2008 3:51:35 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Obama's Church of Gimme-ology destroys young souls.
17 posted on 03/21/2008 3:51:36 PM PDT by syriacus (Karma: Obama threw his grandmother under his “We Are the Ones” bus ++++ The bus was killed.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Another opportunity for Huckabee to get some more media attention? Incoming...

sw

18 posted on 03/21/2008 3:52:03 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Always listen to Liberals. You can tell what they are up to by what they accuse others of doing.


19 posted on 03/21/2008 3:52:23 PM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Pssst Obama: It’s called following the Bible. Not racism, not black-centric living, not anti-Semitism, not cult of personality.

But then again, you know that.


20 posted on 03/21/2008 3:55:37 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: magslinger

Very good point. Now, I see a lot of Lib BS starting to back-fire on them.


21 posted on 03/21/2008 3:55:55 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Para-Ord.45

Of course after reading this I will vote for you Barry! /S


22 posted on 03/21/2008 3:56:19 PM PDT by rocksblues (Tagline on hold)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Obama is wrong when he says that evangelicals don’t care about poverty or the environment. Evangelicals don’t want to drink poisoned water, and they have always tended to support various social programs geared towards the poor. They object to abortion and gay marriage because they think they are serious moral wrongs. Conservative Christians turn out every year to protest Roe v Wade, not the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the 1965 Voting Rights Act, or the numerous laws such as food stamps and medicare that provide various kinds of material aid to the poor. They may or may not support specific anti-poverty programs, but they never organize against them. And no liberal has ever made it clear why it is divisive to be against abortion, but not to be for it.


23 posted on 03/21/2008 3:56:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: unkus

Lately the Democratic party reminds me that God does indeed have a sense of humor.

lol


24 posted on 03/21/2008 3:57:33 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Para-Ord.45

***”religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design.”***

These aren’t the only issues but they are pretty high on the list.


25 posted on 03/21/2008 3:58:50 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Somebody hit this Obama fool up side the head!

By the way, it wasn't just one old preacher sinning at the pulpit...
...the whole house was rockin' and rollin' to the racist rants!

26 posted on 03/21/2008 4:00:00 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Para-Ord.45
I don't think he'll have much luck accusing Pope Benedict of hikacking the Christian religion. It's the other way around. Here are some excerpts. Read the whole thing and post it every where you see the Marxists attempting to claim that Christianity was "hijacked". Let them argue with the pope: Theologies of Liberation

[...]

"..Let us recall the fact that atheism and the denial of the human person, his liberty and rights, are at the core of the Marxist theory. This theory, then, contains errors which directly threaten the truths of the faith regarding the eternal destiny of individual persons. Moreover, to attempt to integrate into theology an analysis whose criterion of interpretation depends on this atheistic conception is to involve oneself in terrible contradictions. What is more, this misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the person leads to a total subordination of the person to the collectivity, and thus to the denial of the principles of a social and political life which is in keeping with human dignity. ...

[...]

"..We are facing, therefore, a real system, even if some hesitate to follow the logic to its conclusion. As such, this system is a perversion of the Christian message as God entrusted it to His Church. This message in its entirety finds itself then called into question by the "theologies of liberation."

[...]

"...As a result, participation in the class struggle is presented as a requirement of charity itself. The desire to love everyone here and now, despite his class, and to go out to meet him with the non-violent means of dialogue and persuasion, is denounced as counterproductive and opposed to love.

If one holds that a person should not be the object of hate, it is claimed nevertheless that, if he belongs to the objective class of the rich, he is primarily a class enemy to be fought. Thus the universality of love of neighbor and brotherhood become an eschatological principle, which will only have meaning for the "new man", who arises out of the victorious revolution. ...

[...]

"..But the "theologies of liberation", which reserve credit for restoring to a place of honor the great texts of the prophets and of the Gospel in defense of the poor, go on to a disastrous confusion between the poor of the Scripture and the proletariat of Marx.

In this way they pervert the Christian meaning of the poor, and they transform the fight for the rights of the poor into a class fight within the ideological perspective of the class struggle. For them the Church of the poor signifies the Church of the class which has become aware of the requirements of the revolutionary struggle as a step toward liberation and which celebrates this liberation in its liturgy. ...

[...]

"..The new hermeneutic inherent in the "theologies of liberation" leads to an essentially political re-reading of the Scriptures. Thus, a major importance is given to the Exodus event inasmuch as it is a liberation from political servitude. Likewise, a political reading of the "Magnificat" is proposed. The mistake here is not in bringing attention to a political dimension of the readings of Scripture, but in making of this one dimension the principal or exclusive component. This leads to a reductionist reading of the Bible.

Likewise, one places oneself within the perspective of a temporal messianism, which is one of the most radical of the expressions of secularization of the Kingdom of God and of its absorption into the immanence of human history.

In giving such priority to the political dimension, one is led to deny the radical newness of the New Testament and above all to misunderstand the person of Our Lord Jesus Christ, true God and true man, and thus the specific character of the salvation he gave us, that is above all liberation from sin, which is the source of all evils. ..

[...]

"...Faith in the Incarnate Word, dead and risen for all men, and whom "God made Lord and Christ" is denied. In its place is substituted a figure of Jesus who is a kind of symbol who sums up in Himself the requirements of the struggle of the oppressed.

An exclusively political interpretation is thus given to the death of Christ. In this way, its value for salvation and the whole economy of redemption is denied. ...

[...]

"..For them, the struggle of the classes is the way to unity.

The Eucharist thus becomes the Eucharist of the class. At the same time, they deny the triumphant force of the love of God which has been given to us.

[...]

"...the source of injustice is in the hearts of men. Therefore it is only by making an appeal to the moral potential of the person and to the constant need for interior conversion, that social change will be brought about which will be truly in the service of man.

For it will only be in the measure that they collaborate freely in these necessary changes through their own initiative and in solidarity, that people, awakened to a sense of their responsibility, will grow in humanity.

The inversion of morality and structures is steeped in a materialist anthropology which is incompatible with the dignity of mankind.

[...]

".. the overthrow by means of revolutionary violence of structures which generate violence is not ipso facto the beginning of a just regime. A major fact of our time ought to evoke the reflection of all those who would sincerely work for the true liberation of their brothers: millions of our own contemporaries legitimately yearn to recover those basic freedoms of which they were deprived by totalitarian and atheistic regimes which came to power by violent and revolutionary means, precisely in the name of the liberation of the people.

This shame of our time cannot be ignored: while claiming to bring them freedom, these regimes keep whole nations in conditions of servitude which are unworthy of mankind. Those who, perhaps inadvertently, make themselves accomplices of similar enslavements betray the very poor they mean to help.

The class struggle as a road toward a classless society is a myth which slows reform and aggravates poverty and injustice.

Those who allow themselves to be caught up in fascination with this myth should reflect on the bitter examples history has to offer about where it leads.

They would then understand that we are not talking here about abandoning an effective means of struggle on behalf of the poor for an ideal which has no practical effects. On the contrary, we are talking about freeing oneself from a delusion in order to base oneself squarely on the Gospel and its power of realization. ...

[...]

~ Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (nka Pope Benedict XVI) August 6, 1984

“Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes, not divine, but demonic.” ~ Pope Benedict XVI

“...After all, every normal person wants to help the poor and needy, but helping them at the end of a gun, as the left always want us to do, renders any spiritual benefit inoperative for both parties. .... What we hear from Obama is the eternal mantra of the socialists; America is broken, millions have no health care, families cannot afford necessities, the rich are evil, we are selfish, we are unhappy, unfulfilled, without hope, desperate, poverty stricken, morally desolate, corrupt and racist. This nihilism is the lifeblood of all the democrat candidates, even ‘hope you can believe in’ performers like Obama. When Michelle Obama claims she is only newly proud of her country, she does not exaggerate. In her world as in Obama’s, they believe we are a mess, a land filled with the ignorant and unenlightened, filled with despair” ..." (Fairchok).

27 posted on 03/21/2008 4:01:43 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ('RATS will lose in a landslide in November in spite of McCain and because of "Operation Chaos".)
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This can't be right: Obama’s all about unity and coming together. He wouldn't use such language against people just because they believe the gospels rather than the hate-filled fulminations of Rev Wright.
28 posted on 03/21/2008 4:03:54 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: donna

“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”

And he will build his castle at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and crown himself king forever. Will he also call himself George?


29 posted on 03/21/2008 4:04:33 PM PDT by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“OBAMA: CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN LEADERS HAVE HIJACKED FAITH”

Since when did the democrats give a hooey about Christianity and people of faith? Besides that, how can anyone hijack someone else’s faith? Man, this people are clueless.


30 posted on 03/21/2008 4:04:47 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: magslinger
Always listen to Liberals. You can tell what they are up to by what they accuse others of doing.

That is a truth.

31 posted on 03/21/2008 4:04:53 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Osama: the ultimate superdelegate.)
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To: austinaero

Yeah, but after this age of grace, he will rule with a rod of iron. ‘Chuckles’ might not be so funny in the future.


32 posted on 03/21/2008 4:05:31 PM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

This is what Hussein said upon his return from the Million Man March,

“The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have. But it’s always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility.

The right wing talks about this but they keep appealing to that old individualistic bootstrap myth: get a job, get rich, and get out. Instead of investing in our neighborhoods, that’s what has always happened. Our goal must be to help people get a sense of building something larger. ...

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-flew-to-dc-to-attend-farrakhans.html


33 posted on 03/21/2008 4:06:30 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: Content Provider

Has Gore made any comments? I had expected him to jump into the race when nutty McCain became the GOP darling.


34 posted on 03/21/2008 4:07:40 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Para-Ord.45

You couldn’t be more right in your assessment: One of the primary goals of the Communist Party is the replacement of revealed religion with “social” religion!


35 posted on 03/21/2008 4:08:54 PM PDT by BirdHunter24
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To: ANGGAPO

And to think that this idiot actually has a large number of followers. America, you’ve become a scary place since you expelled God.


36 posted on 03/21/2008 4:09:46 PM PDT by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
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Obamaharishi
37 posted on 03/21/2008 4:10:46 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Excuse me? How is it exploiting what divides us just to try and stop the advance of evils like abortion and homosexuality? It is the left that has exploited our legal system to win political agendas they couldn’t win through the legislative process. That left their opponents trying to undo through constitutional means that which the left stole through unconstitutional judicial activism.


38 posted on 03/21/2008 4:10:47 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Jane Austen

If he has, I haven’t been listening to him. I had a meeting today with a business partner whose wife put a “Draft Gore” sticker on his car (yeah he’s whipped), which put the idea in my head. With Obama leading slightly headed into the convention and Hillary going to the mat to take him down, the Dems just might say to hell with the both of them and pick Gore.


39 posted on 03/21/2008 4:10:53 PM PDT by Content Provider
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To: roses of sharon
"Instead of investing in our neighborhoods"

What a crock. What is that supposed to mean? The best way to "invest in your neighborhood" is to maintain a stable marriage and love and supervise your children.
40 posted on 03/21/2008 4:10:57 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Para-Ord.45

Like the creature in the movie “The Thing”, the true nature of Obama is tiring of disguise.


41 posted on 03/21/2008 4:12:03 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: ANGGAPO
Obama——What is wrong with this man?

He's a liberal.

42 posted on 03/21/2008 4:12:30 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Para-Ord.45

If the New Testament is true, then Obama is an enemy of Christ... a man that makes sin a virtue. Men like Obama are the best kinds of liars, the kind that mix truths to disguise the lies.


43 posted on 03/21/2008 4:14:20 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Para-Ord.45

Lets see.
UCC church
UCC is to the left of Marxism.

Social gospel only.


44 posted on 03/21/2008 4:16:28 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Chutzpa from an anti-semitic.


45 posted on 03/21/2008 4:18:40 PM PDT by DonnerT (Crissy Mathews doesn't know tingle up from tinkle down!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“What a crock. This guy is self destructing.”

He is doing us a great favor in that he will be remembered always. He should not get a chance to ever run for the presidency again.


46 posted on 03/21/2008 4:19:03 PM PDT by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Dude has no shame.


47 posted on 03/21/2008 4:27:18 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Para-Ord.45

If anyone is attemping to “hijack the Christian faith” it is the immoral leftists in the democrat party. keep going Obama - stir up our base. please.


48 posted on 03/21/2008 4:30:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: cd jones

It really won’t matter. He could proclaim himself as satan and liberal women would still swoon and faint at his rallies.

And liberal men...well ARE liberal women.

Besides, this is all Bush’s fault.


49 posted on 03/21/2008 4:35:04 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: 353FMG

“What a crock. This guy is self destructing.”

He sure is.. but he will be the nominee.


50 posted on 03/21/2008 4:36:38 PM PDT by RichBruer
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