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More sanity from Captain Ed.
1 posted on 03/23/2008 12:20:40 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: steelyourfaith; Swordmaker; Defendingliberty; Genesis defender; WL-law; Normandy; ...

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2 posted on 03/23/2008 12:21:11 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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3 posted on 03/23/2008 12:22:40 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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new NASA data shows that the computer models that predicted runaway global warming were based on a fundamental error.

Well, knock me over with a feather. Such a shock!

Has someone told McCain about this?

4 posted on 03/23/2008 12:23:21 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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Sadly, there is a 100 year upward trend in global temperatures. Even during the plateau from 1945 to 1976 the seas continued rising and the glaciers continued retreating.

The Australian is not the definitive science source to overturn all that.


5 posted on 03/23/2008 12:25:03 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Delacon; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

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The Great Global Warming Swindle Video - back on the net!! (click here)

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



14 posted on 03/23/2008 12:51:20 PM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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Here's the full story from The Australian:

Climate facts to warm to

15 posted on 03/23/2008 12:59:00 PM PDT by concentric circles
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But what all you Global Warming Deniers fail to understand is the fact that there is no Global Warming is actually caused by Global Warming!

In fact, every measurable piece of data on weather and the environment proves there's Global Warming. By definition.

That leaves all you deniers with no leg to stand on. Literally.

17 posted on 03/23/2008 1:12:42 PM PDT by samtheman
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Isuspect the Earth will be here until the sun consumes it 5 or 10 billion years hence.


20 posted on 03/23/2008 1:20:48 PM PDT by stevem
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I heard about this little discovery, last year. The only thing that surprised me about it, was that "scientists" were "surprised".

No real scientist (or engineer) would believe that a system could have been stable for a long period of time, if it were controlled by positive feedback.

29 posted on 03/23/2008 1:56:34 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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Models Look Good When Predicting Climate Change
by Staff Writers
Salt Lake City UT (SPX) Apr 03, 2008

The accuracy of computer models that predict climate change over the coming decades has been the subject of debate among politicians, environmentalists and even scientists. A new study by meteorologists at the University of Utah shows that current climate models are quite accurate and can be valuable tools for those seeking solutions on reversing global warming trends.
Most of these models project a global warming trend that amounts to about 7 degrees Fahrenheit over the next 100 years.

The study titled “How Well do Coupled Models Simulate Today’s Climate?” is due to be published this Friday in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. In the study, co-authors Thomas Reichler and Junsu Kim from the Department of Meteorology at the University of Utah investigate how well climate models actually do their job in simulating climate.

To this end, they compare the output of the models against observations for present climate. The authors apply this method to about 50 different national and international models that were developed over the past two decades at major climate research centers in China, Russia, Australia, Canada, France, Korea, Great Britain, Germany, and the United States.

Of course, also included is the very latest model generation that was used for the very recent (2007) report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
“Coupled models are becoming increasingly reliable tools for understanding climate and climate change, and the best models are now capable of simulating present-day climate with accuracy approaching conventional atmospheric observations,” said Reichler. “We can now place a much higher level of confidence in model-based projections of climate change than in the past.”

The many hours of studying models and comparing them with actual climate changes fulfills the increasing wish to know how much one can trust climate models and their predictions. Given the significance of climate change research in public policy, the study’s results also provide important response to critics of global warming.
Earlier this year, working group one of the IPCC released its fourth global warming report. The University of Utah study results directly relate to this highly publicized report by showing that the models used for the IPCC paper have reached an unprecedented level of realism.

Another important aspect of the research is that climate models built in the U.S. are now some of the best models worldwide. Increased efforts in the U.S. over the past few years to build better climate models have paid off, and according to the authors’ measure of reliability, one of the U.S. models is now one of the leading climate models worldwide.

Although model-based projections of future climate are now more credible than ever before, the authors note they have no way to say exactly how reliable those projections are. There are simply too many unknowns involved in the future evolution of climate, such as how much humans will curb their future greenhouse gas emissions.


Seven degrees in 100 years is hardly more than background noise.


103 posted on 04/03/2008 8:27:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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