A negligent discharge is caused by either ignorance or carelessness. The person can be considered ignorant, if they have not been trained. They are careless, if they disregard their training. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge.
Posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF
Stupid is as Stupid does, eh Forrest?
Other than the above, the story at the link really provides no useful information.
Where did I note thr trigger wss not depressed? Besides, I don’t have at hand the articles where on duty police had a Glock fire without being in hand. They get remarkable trigger depressions, even when in a holster or being shoved into a holster.
So I'm wondering if this was really an accidental or negligent discharge at all? Or was it perhaps a carefully orchestrated ploy to generate huge negative publicity (yet to come in following days I'm guessing) to kill the entire program once and for all?
I hope I'm wrong, but this just doesn't "feel" right.
If Obama or Mrs. Clinton use it as an excuse to bring the issue of "sensible" gun control into the campaign, then we will know.
she was holstering it
Unless it knocked out a window, no.
A negligent discharge is caused by either ignorance or carelessness. The person can be considered ignorant, if they have not been trained. They are careless, if they disregard their training. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge.
PROBABLY not a big deal. Statistically, some of these types of incidents are inevitable, if you have enough people carrying arms. The relevant QUESTION: Is the Public better off giving terrorists a free rein?
That is my point.
It is why I have been able to carry a Glock daily for close to 15 years without a single ND.
That’s so wrong....LOL
He yells Allah Akbar as he dives the plane into the ocean
I don’t know if that is protocol but there is a precedence.
is his finger on the trigger too??
99% of revolvers don’t have safeties, because they are really not needed. For a DA revolver, they take an extremely long and strong pull, unlike the Glock. If SA, they need to be cocked first. The chances of a revolver accidentally or negligently discharging are much, much less than a Glock. Even so, most people I know who carry revolvers do so with an empty chambers. As someone said earlier, there is no reason to carry any weapon in condition one in cockpit with a locked door.
“US Airways pilot’s gun accidentally discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday,”
So?
People make such a huge deal out of everything gun related. Any story that involves a gun immediately becomes a huge story where the gun is the focal point.
The great mysterious aura of the gun is such a made up media farce. Pact with cliché, urban myths, bad Hollywood physics, highly politicized by the mid 80s, some people think that this inanimate object of steel, wood, and plastic has some mind altering effect on people. Press it into someone’s hands and immediately they go amok, or so is the reasoning of these self proclaimed intellectuals. Of course all the good done with this tool is ignored and any evil is associated to the tool, not its operator.
In Alaska when I lived there, we had mandatory carry laws for pilots long before 911 (survival reasons). It’s never been an issue, still isn’t. http://www.equipped.org/ak_cnda.htm Even the military aero clubs must conform and we carried a pistol in a pack (packed with all survival gear necessary) that we threw into every aircraft before takeoff. Pilots carrying a gun both private and commercial makes a lot of sense, and of course had I said this pre-911 some would have argued that I’m an idiot, because they after all or so intellectual and open minded. Of course there will be accidents, so what?
A big difference between the GLOCK, XD, or ParaOrdinance LDA and a revolver is: the hammer of the revolver is not cocked. The hammer of the others is partially cocked, but not enough, in theory, to detonate the primer.
Basic idea: In the absence of a separate safety, the harder you have to pull on a trigger, the less likely you are to have a negligent discharge.
For purposes of argument, let us say that it is 1/3rd cocked. The trigger on these others normally pull with about 5 lbs pressure. The revolver trigger has to fully cock the hammer, and so takes 8 to 11 lbs to fully cock. The Glock has a NY Trigger option that pushes the trigger pull up to 8 lbs.
I have a Cobra Arms derringer in .38 Special, and it has a 14 pound trigger. With no trigger guard, that is just about adequate. Fortunately, it sits safe in my safe, empty.
I had my ND when I was 20, with a revolver with a 12 lb trigger. It is not the kind of thing you ever want to repeat.
I have two, but I'm neither a cop nor a gangbanger. Just a reg'lar guy. A gun-totin' conservative, knuckle-draggin' reg'lar guy.
“That is why some of us can carry a Glock safely and the negligent can’t.”
Good luck with that. LOL.
Never shot a Glock have ya?
lol! looks like the guys might be missing something else also.
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