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Low level of 'bad cholesterol' increases death rate, researchers find
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| March 29, 2008
Posted on 03/29/2008 1:37:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: steve86
When I said “too high is bad” this means total cholesterol==>high or LDL ==> high
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:35:00 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
To: Tax-chick
Please read my comments later in the thread. Don’t infer anything about middle-range LDL from patients with extremely low-range LDL.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:37:11 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
To: steve86
Keep taking it unless your LDL is in the extremely low range (highly unlikely). If your LDL is in the average to high range you benefit from the statin. The article says over wise. That's why the questions.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:38:06 PM PDT
by
donna
(McCain answers the red phone: "Hola!")
To: steve86
Ogushi suggests that the appropriate LDL cholesterol level for men is between 100 and 180 milligrams per deciliter of blood. He suggests women should have a level of at least 120 milligrams. This is where you want it to be! Don't stop taking statins and go above those ranges!!!
Even with a big statin dose my LDL is still 182.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:40:29 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
To: preacher
Hillary is a liar. Anthropogenic warming is doubted, and doctors love to experiment on people.
To: Mount Athos
According to Dr Ornish it is the RATIO of TOTAL to HD that is important
4.0 or lower is excellent
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:42:08 PM PDT
by
uncbob
To: donna
No it doesn't.
People are simple-mindedly reading that extremely low LDL is associated with problems and inferring that LDL should be left to rise uncontrolled.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:42:23 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
To: Kolokotronis
That looks like the new Kosher bacon. Next will be non-fat peanut butter.
To: uncbob
Good point, although extremes of LDL are not good either.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:45:01 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
To: steve86
Thanks, my numbers (both) are good, but my husband takes Lipitor to get his into good range.
To: Pining_4_TX
You are right, I have been reading more and more about inflammation being the bad thing, so get ready for the next wave of pills.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:47:05 PM PDT
by
depenzz
(I'm thinking, don't bother me)
To: Mount Athos
Seriously, this study makes a LOT of sense to me. My family, from elderly to the kiddies, all have high cholesterol. We all love fruits and veggies, and food in general. Everyone lives into their 90s. There have been 0 heart attacks and no strokes other than a few mini-strokes in the upper 90 years in one of two of them.
I have never understood the whole cholesterol-lowering thing.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:47:06 PM PDT
by
Yaelle
To: steve86
Thanks. We’ll definitely want to look closely at the numbers.
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:47:14 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
To: Mount Athos
You need some cheese and chilly on top of that!
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:47:41 PM PDT
by
CapnJack
To: steve86
Good point, although extremes of LDL are not good either.
My understanding is that the HDL is a better marker --if it is below 40 you are in trouble
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:49:28 PM PDT
by
uncbob
To: Gorzaloon
Thanks for Post #33
In a nutshell - SCORE
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:49:51 PM PDT
by
libertarian27
(Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
To: Yaelle
I have never understood the whole cholesterol-lowering thing.
I am willing to bet that their HDLs are very high e.g. my wifes total is 285 but her HDLs are 92
Mother lived to be 96 and her heart was still going strong
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posted on
03/29/2008 2:51:55 PM PDT
by
uncbob
To: donna
My mother once called me “over wise.”
To: CapnJack
You need some cheese and chilly on top of that!Make sure it's nice and hot chilly.
To: mamelukesabre
That reminds me of my recent physical. The Doc asked if I had any family who had cancer. “Yes, on my Mom’s side.” I replied.
“That’s bad”, he said.
“I know,” said I. “They all died in their late 80s...on my Dad’s side, they all lived into their 90s.”
The Doc decided I probably didn’t need to worry based on family history...
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posted on
03/29/2008 3:03:55 PM PDT
by
Mr Rogers
(Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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