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Low level of 'bad cholesterol' increases death rate, researchers find
mainichi japan ^ | March 29, 2008

Posted on 03/29/2008 1:37:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: mamelukesabre

Oh, poop! That’s going to interfere with my plans to live forever.

Seriously, I think genetics have as much to to with life span as anything else. I see a lot of 80-yr old ladies puffing a cigarette.


21 posted on 03/29/2008 2:06:13 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Mount Athos

That’s true, minus the bread. There’s nought wrong with fat and protein, laddie! ;-)

BTW, good book on all this health nannyism - The Last Well Person, written by a doctor. Tells us we’ve all been led to believe that we all suffer from some condition that requires extensive treatment and testing at the hands of the medicine pushers. Very interesting read.


22 posted on 03/29/2008 2:08:08 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Mount Athos
Low level of 'bad cholesterol' increases death rate, researchers find

Moral of story, eat whatever you want because in the end, you're going to die anyway ;-)

23 posted on 03/29/2008 2:09:20 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: television is just wrong; Spunky

The next big thing is inflammation. That may turn out to be more important than anything else. In the meantime, I think I’ll wait another 20 years for the “experts” to sort this all out before I go on all these medications.


24 posted on 03/29/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: JustDoItAlways
This rather large long-term study is going to be a BIG shocker to the medical community.

This study will simply disappear. It doesn't fit the "narrative" of the media, or the medical nannys, so I'd be surprised whether you heard any news stories on it at all. I believe they found something similar when they looked at data from that 20 year "nurses" study that they did. That info also went down the memory hole.

25 posted on 03/29/2008 2:10:13 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: bkepley

Moonbat reasonong? Oh that’s right doctor knows best. Let’s see ulcers are caused by stress, spicy foods, alcohol, etc.. Oops that was yesterday now we know it is bacteria. Cancer isn’t caused by viruses...oops it actually can be. Salt causes high blood pressure, caffeine is bad, radon kills, should I go on about discredited medical wisdom. Cholesteral is right up there with global warming.

Over half of of heart attack victims have no blockage. The vast majority of people with high cholesteral never have heart problems.

Interesting enough that the same bacteria responsible for plaque in arteries is the same one found on your teeth. Could flouride prevent heart decay?


26 posted on 03/29/2008 2:10:25 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Mount Athos
So a person on Lipator is supposed to do what ???
27 posted on 03/29/2008 2:10:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Mount Athos
This study has no implications for people with average or higher LDL levels -- it is obvious by now that cholesterol metabolism is not linear -- something qualitatively different is happening when LDL levels are extremely low -- a certain amount of cholesterol is required.

Anyone who reads this study and concludes they should stop taking statins (unless their LDL is in the range indicated) may be DEAD WRONG.

28 posted on 03/29/2008 2:15:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Irish Eyes

Keep taking it unless your LDL is in the extremely low range (highly unlikely). If your LDL is in the average to high range you benefit from the statin.


29 posted on 03/29/2008 2:16:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Mount Athos

And how does this apply to Americans...


30 posted on 03/29/2008 2:17:11 PM PDT by tubebender ("Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.")
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To: Mount Athos

.."I can eat bacon again?"

31 posted on 03/29/2008 2:19:36 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Mount Athos

First, Global Warming is being doubted by many experts. Now this cholesterol/heart thing is being questioned. The next thing may be Hillary exposed as a liar.

What’s a guy to think?


32 posted on 03/29/2008 2:22:55 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: JustDoItAlways
This rather large long-term study is going to be a BIG shocker to the medical community.

Many suspect it already. When they start dumping Pfizer from their protfolios it is time to throw the statins down the drain, and turn on the TV for the predictable "WRECK YOUR LIVER?? HAVE PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY FROM STATINS?? Call the Law Offices of Weasel,Serpent&Goniff to **WIN** The CLASS ACTION LOTTERY!!!"

Just watch. But in this case, the companies may well deserve it. "Studies" have caused the Serum cholesterol reccommended levels to be decreased have greatly increased the Patient Pool, of course, and we are talking about billions of Dollars here in market size.

The adverse reactions of statins are well-known, but generally the argument has been they are outweighed by the "Benefits". One such benefit is:

HEY! WHEN did this study come out???

33 posted on 03/29/2008 2:23:21 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Moonbat reasonong? Oh that’s right doctor knows best..

Blah..blah..blah.. This is what he actually said.

The entire cholesterol issue is junk science, motivated by greedy pharmaceuticals.

Just because doctors don't know everything doesn't mean they are motivated to produce junk science.

34 posted on 03/29/2008 2:23:35 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: steve86

Thanks for your common sense answer :)


35 posted on 03/29/2008 2:27:29 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Mount Athos

I think the association between low LDL and increased stroke risk has been known for some time.


36 posted on 03/29/2008 2:30:29 PM PDT by fso301
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To: A_perfect_lady

My grandmother taught her “daughter-in-law” all about saving bacon grease for cooking when we moved to the south.
My grandmother passed on at 94.


37 posted on 03/29/2008 2:31:56 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: neverdem; shrinkermd; Judith Anne
Like, *PING*, folks.

Cheers!

38 posted on 03/29/2008 2:33:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Irish Eyes

It is common sense as long as you realize the relationship between cholesterol level and health is curvilinear, not linear.

Too high is bad; apparently too low (in the case of HDL and now LDL) is bad.

Basically you want high HDL and middle-range LDL, not extremely low LDL.

Many of us will never have to worry about having extremely low LDL!!!


39 posted on 03/29/2008 2:33:32 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Shady
Go on, smoke. It's one of the healthiest things for your body...

Cheers!

40 posted on 03/29/2008 2:34:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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