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Low level of 'bad cholesterol' increases death rate, researchers find
mainichi japan ^ | March 29, 2008

Posted on 03/29/2008 1:37:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: Shady

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Dr. Melik: (listing items Miles had requested for breakfast) “... wheat germ, organic honey, and... Tiger’s Milk.”

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61 posted on 03/29/2008 3:05:18 PM PDT by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Well, we already know that if you don’t take care of your teeth, it can cause all sorts of things to go wrong. Kidney failure, clogged arteries, etc. So I would expect that inflamation is a biggie.


62 posted on 03/29/2008 3:05:38 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: ozzymandus

Sure but for all you know, they didn’t start until they were 60. So if they did start at 60, they should be dead from lung cancer in about 20 years. hehe

My grandfather lived to be 88 and the only vegetables he ate were potatoes...unless you count tapioca.


63 posted on 03/29/2008 3:11:47 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: A_perfect_lady

My Mom is almost 90. She comes from Polish stock and grew up on pierogi, kielbasa and stuffed cabbage. She’s as healthy as can be and still eats whatever she wants. Her brother is 92 and she has 2 sisters in their 80’s and one in her 70’s. All healthy.


64 posted on 03/29/2008 3:11:54 PM PDT by surrey
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To: Mr Rogers

That depends. If you’re expecting to live into your hundreds, your family history could be a problem. :)


65 posted on 03/29/2008 3:14:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Gorzaloon

I think they are useful but over prescribed....they are useful for extremely high levels of cholesterol but I think with more mildly elevated levels the patient should be told to watch their weight and diet and take a walk now and then!


66 posted on 03/29/2008 3:16:01 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: grey_whiskers; Rennes Templar
I wouldn't call it junk science so much as incomplete science, and that the recommended treatments to lower LDL to particular levels are more questionable.

Great Drug, but Does It Prolong Life?

This hasn't been the first study with either the cholesterol hypothesis or statin usage having been called into question. The mortality curves were called J or U shaped, just like ethanol consumption, i.e. teetotalers and heavy drinkers had higher death rates than "moderate" drinkers.

67 posted on 03/29/2008 3:24:17 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: steve86
People are simple-mindedly reading that extremely low LDL is associated with problems and inferring that LDL should be left to rise uncontrolled.

The information about very low LDL is not new, although the overall death rate numbers are. I've been reading articles at lef.org for at least a couple of years on the subject. The first research out on the subject had to do with strokes. Very low LDL puts you measurably more at risk for strokes than higher levels. The LEF folks have been recommending against pushing LDL levels way down for at least two or three years.

68 posted on 03/29/2008 3:31:41 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: mdmathis6
I think they are useful but over prescribed....they are useful for extremely high levels of cholesterol but I think with more mildly elevated levels the patient should be told to watch their weight and diet and take a walk now and then!

True. I see caravans of SUV's at the local Executive Shores Luxury Estates lined up waiting for the school bus, so the children do not have to walk 300 Yards, and wonder why no one is concerned about them as they pant and waddle from one vehicle to the other.

If only people would use stairs once in a while, rather than taking an elevator for a floor or two, or even get a dog to walk, so many of these problems could be avoided.

There are some people who simply synthesize a lot of cholesterols, and dieting is not enough, and maybe for them, some intervention is needed. I have a sister who is a health nut, runs road races, and essentially eats lettuce, and she has high cholesterol~220, so in some cases it has nothing to do with eating cheeseburgers.

But the wholesale mass prescriptions must have to be raising eyebrows, somewhere.

69 posted on 03/29/2008 3:43:26 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: bkepley
Just because doctors don't know everything doesn't mean they are motivated to produce junk science.

At first glance I agreed, but add the caution that if you are running a program to determine the contribution of a candidate drug, and your preliminary report concludes the drug is ineffective or dangerous, what do you think the probability of follow-on funding will be?

For evidence of Research Prostitution one need look no further than "Global Warming".

One can search databases like Medline, or even citations in the Prescribing Information, read the cited studies, and see who funded them.

70 posted on 03/29/2008 3:53:20 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: A_perfect_lady
My grandma lived 93 years on a diet of butter, salt, and bacon fat.

I read that John D. Rockefeller started every day with oatmeal with butter and salt. He lived to be 97. It seems like the biggest change in the American diet over the past few decades is the increased use of sweeteners.

71 posted on 03/29/2008 3:54:22 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Rennes Templar

I’m a fitness trainer. It is not junk science.


72 posted on 03/29/2008 3:58:40 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Mount Athos

Woohoo!


73 posted on 03/29/2008 4:05:57 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Mount Athos

If you’re gonna have a bacon sandwich on white bread, everybody knows that the bread should be fried in the drippings first.


74 posted on 03/29/2008 4:14:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Rennes Templar

Read up on the side effects of statins including memory loss. IMO, the medical establishment is clueless about prescription drugs. Doctors have become nothing more than pill pushers. The side effects of these drugs are worse than the ailment.


75 posted on 03/29/2008 4:18:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Mount Athos

Now, all you need to complete the sandwich is: Skippy Extra Crunchy Peanutbutter on both sides, with a tall glass of cold milk./Just Asking - seoul62........


76 posted on 03/29/2008 4:19:45 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: Ole Okie

Congratulations Ole Okie! Good for you! It gets so tiresome when every day or two “they” keep coming up with this and that research that makes what we were doing - eating, drinking - yesterday obsolete today. I’m confused and still sick a lot of the time despite jumping every time “they” say “frog”. My mother in law is going on 85 and gives the lie to all the diet and exercise rules. She eats butter and anything else she wants, not especially a “balanced” diet either, and the farthest she walks is from her bed to the bathroom and back to the easy chair - and this has been the norm for her all her life.

Keep up the good work, Okie!

Twinkie


77 posted on 03/29/2008 4:25:14 PM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !!!)
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Is there a doctor in the house..................


78 posted on 03/29/2008 4:27:27 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (High Maintenance Estrogen Bot........... look out :0))
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To: Pining_4_TX

same here.


79 posted on 03/29/2008 4:27:50 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: bkepley

It is becoming common knowledge that INFLAMMATION is a bigger problem than cholesterol....or it SHOULD be....but, I’m not sure there’s enough money in the drugs for inflammation....


80 posted on 03/29/2008 4:33:45 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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