Well even if this kid is a Senior this is still a very good drawing. So unless this teacher is grading on a curve and the rest of the students are budding Norman Rockwells, she/he is gonna have snootfull of trouble in the near future.
Posted on 04/01/2008 11:17:16 AM PDT by teddyballgame
I’m not arguing for the teacher, all I’m saying is printed words in art, while unconventional, is done, even by old masters.
See post #18 above where someone quoted the article:
“His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project.”
So her excuse was the text...
Don't the Libs usually tell us that 'one purpose of Art is to spark dialogue'?
APThe bottom line problem with these religious expression issues is not the news agencies, however. The problem is that ignorance of the Constitution and its history is epidemic. If the people whose freedom of religious expression is being stifled were aware of the information at the following link then they could drive the anti-religious factions into their holes and we'd see a new America overnight, in my opinion.
Herald Sun
U.S.News
Patriot Post
Washington Post
Heritage Foundation
Wikipedia
Star-Tribune (Minnesota)
Reuters
Social Security
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
The Oregonian
The New England Journal of Medicine
Gunlaws.com
BerkshireEagle.com
Fox News
Alliance Defense Fund
This post (<-click), while addressing a 10 Commandments issue, explains how FDR's establishment of constitutionally unauthorized federal spending programs arguably led to situations like the one addressed by this thread where religious expression is being unconstitutionally stifled.
Regardless that the Alliance Defense Fund is seemingly not seeing the forest for the trees concerning the reality that there is no constitutional problem with student Christian art in public schools, it makes me wonder if lawyers are actually trying to help confuse what our constitutional rights are as opposed to hurting their income by "curing the patient."
Well even if this kid is a Senior this is still a very good drawing. So unless this teacher is grading on a curve and the rest of the students are budding Norman Rockwells, she/he is gonna have snootfull of trouble in the near future.
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That’s not entirely true, “Millin stated at the meeting the cross in the drawing also infringed on other students’ rights.”
It wasn’t just the text that they had an issue with. The teacher and prinipal are using the “other students were offended” rube. This is total BS. If the same student said the demonic symbols infringed his rights, would they give thos kids “F’s”. I don’t think so.
What’s the over/under that the art teacher is gay?
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Good point!
I willing to bet that the art teacher is gay.
Amazing. Thank you for the ping!
Another Reason to Homeschool
That it was done should warrant a grade of some kind. If it was recognizable at all, it should have gotten more than a zero.
Art teachers sometimes grade on how the student does relative to their actual artistic ability, or effort put into the project, realizing that not everybody is an artist.
My daughters are really good in art and my son would starve in very short order.
Norman Rockwell painted lots of scenes with lettering, or test, in them.
or test, in them.=or text, in them.
When I was in college at the University of Texas, there was definitely a prejudice against any kind of Christian representation in art. I stuck to abstract stuff to get by. Now I do sports photography. I enjoy it more than Fine Arts work.
Is this too offensive to laugh at, or too ridiculous to be offensive?
The kid should spread the word far and wide...then list the work on eBay.
I’d bid on it.
Sue their butts off.
Great photo! Amazing how you managed to capture an image of the ball.
ALL government schools are utterly incompatible with freedom of conscience and the First Amendment. This is the **fundamental** conflict here.
For this reason government schools should be privatized, and there should be complete separation between school and state.
Will Christian parents be gracious toward accepting images of the Angel Moroni or Joseph Smith? Will they welcome Wiccan images? What about atheistic and anti-religious themes? When these images are posted on bulleting boards and discussed in class, yes, their spiritually and emotionally immature children will be exposed to and indoctrinated into ideas that are in conflict with family tradition.
Please remember that any government powerful enough to force Christian art on non-Christian children is powerful enough to force anti-Christian art on Christian children.
The solution is to reduce government power. One of the best ways to do that is to get government OUT of the education business.
As for this specific case:
Yes, the attorneys should pursue this. Why?
Answer: Because if Christian speech is suppressed in government schools it will be suppressed elsewhere in government environments.
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