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NATO Backs Bush's Missile Defense System (Breaking)
AP ^ | Apr 3, 2008 | MATTHEW LEE

Posted on 04/03/2008 6:03:30 AM PDT by tlb

BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) - President Bush won NATO's endorsement Thursday for his plan to build a missile defense system in Europe over Russian objections. The proposal also advanced with Czech officials announcing an agreement to install a missile tracking site for the system in their country.

NATO leaders were adopting a communique stating that "ballistic missile proliferation poses an increasing threat to allied forces, territory and populations." It also will recognize "the substantial contribution to the protection of allies ... to be provided by the U.S.-led system," according to senior American officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of the statement's release.

The statement calls on all NATO members to explore ways in which the planned U.S. project, to be based in Poland and the Czech Republic, can be linked with future missile shields elsewhere. It says leaders should come up with recommendations to be considered at their next meeting in 2009, the officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bush43; bushadministration; bushlegacy; bushvisit; bushwins; europe; missiledefense; nationalsecurity; nato; romania; term2
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I'd call it Ronald Reagan's system but this is ok too.
1 posted on 04/03/2008 6:03:30 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb
I'd call it Ronald Reagan's system but this is ok too.

No! The credit is entirely Reagan's ... if you'll remember both Bush and his father cut back on the SDI funds when they came into office. It was only after 9-11 and the "Axis of Evil" revalations from intel sources and the 2002 SOTU speech that Bush rededicated monies in his budget proposals to Congress.

2 posted on 04/03/2008 6:09:27 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: tlb

cool


3 posted on 04/03/2008 6:11:33 AM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: meandog
NATO Backs Bush's BUILDING OF A Missile Defense System ....

This is how the headline should have read. Does that make you feel better?

if you'll remember both Bush and his father cut back on the SDI funds when they came into office.

No, I don't remember. Gotta link?

4 posted on 04/03/2008 6:31:54 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: tlb

Bush

Wins

Again!


5 posted on 04/03/2008 6:42:47 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Just A Nobody
No, I don't remember. Gotta link?

Google: "Bush reduces Reagan's SDI funding" you ought to find it...

6 posted on 04/03/2008 6:54:24 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: Just A Nobody
Also click here close to the end, you'll discover: "President George H.W. Bush scaled back the SDI program ...".
7 posted on 04/03/2008 6:59:52 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: meandog
From your link:

When Bush was sworn in as president in January 2001, he quickly moved to increase missile defense development, pushing deployment of a small system based in Alaska that could intercept a small number of ICBMs launched at the continental United States. In December 2001, Bush announced his intention to withdraw the United States from the ABM Treaty. Such a move was necessary if the United States was going to test more advanced systems that would otherwise violate the treaty.

8 posted on 04/03/2008 7:02:20 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: tlb

Wow...and just this morning I heard on cnn that Bush has “failed” in his efforts to get this done.


9 posted on 04/03/2008 7:05:22 AM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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To: samtheman
increase missile defense development...

DEPLOYMENT, a bit different than RDT&E isn't it? Reagan's vision (and funding proposal) was for research, development, testing and evaluation of an eventual (earthwide) systems...both "Read My Lips" and "Mission Accomplished" Bushclowns decreased the funding!

10 posted on 04/03/2008 7:15:18 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: tlb
The statement calls on all NATO members to explore ways in which the planned U.S. project, to be based in Poland and the Czech Republic

If I had fallen asleep in 1988 and had just awakened, I'd think I was nuts. How far we've come in 20 years!

The Poles and Czechs have got some of the biggest cajones in Europe.

11 posted on 04/03/2008 7:22:10 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: Southack

You beat me to it.


12 posted on 04/03/2008 7:24:11 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: jackv

You must have been the only one watching CNN.


13 posted on 04/03/2008 8:12:28 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: samtheman
Thanks for the information. It agrees quite well with my experience. It is however, not the full story.

The Clinton administration, to their undeserved benefit, paniced when the North Koreans launched a 4 stage missile capable of reaching anywhere in the US. According to the Clinton “Peace Dividend” theory, no nation was going to ever again threaten any one else again. The results of this panic was a speed up on the design of a new x-band early warning radar to be built on Shemya. That did not happen mainly due to high construction costs at the end of the world. Bush built the radar on a towable oil rig configuration which was to th towed around South America on to Shemya. I lost track of it a few years ago when it was parked in Hawaii for some kind of repair.

According to my memory, your paragraph pretty much summarizes what happened when Bush II was elected. Effort was almost immediately directed toward the design and expedited construction of the Alaska and Vandenburg facilities.

14 posted on 04/03/2008 8:33:53 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: tlb

But, but, I thought all of Europe and the enlightened world hated George Bush? How can this be?


15 posted on 04/03/2008 8:38:40 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Southack
"Bush

Wins

Again!"

 

Good deal! 

16 posted on 04/03/2008 9:05:09 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: samtheman

Clears that up. Thanks!


17 posted on 04/03/2008 9:07:08 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: meandog
It was only after 9-11 and the "Axis of Evil" revalations from intel sources and the 2002 SOTU speech that Bush rededicated monies in his budget proposals to Congress.

I'm fine with somebody smartening up a little late. Compare the two Dems running right now, who still haven't gotten a clue 7 years after 9/11.

18 posted on 04/03/2008 9:25:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
President Bush won NATO's endorsement Thursday for his plan to build a missile defense system in Europe over Russian objections. The proposal also advanced with Czech officials announcing an agreement to install a missile tracking site for the system in their country.
Putin, about your saber-rattling, natural gas blackmail, assassinations of opponents in European countries...
19 posted on 04/03/2008 10:10:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Amen!


20 posted on 04/03/2008 10:28:14 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Piquaboy

Haha! I get impatient with commercials and surf the traitor sites!


21 posted on 04/03/2008 10:30:11 AM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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To: meandog
Google: "Bush reduces Reagan's SDI funding" you ought to find it...
Also click here close to the end, you'll discover: "President George H.W. Bush scaled back the SDI program ...".
DEPLOYMENT, a bit different than RDT&E isn't it? Reagan's vision (and funding proposal) was for research, development, testing and evaluation of an eventual (earthwide) systems...both "Read My Lips" and "Mission Accomplished" Bushclowns decreased the funding!

1. When you make BS statements, it is up to YOU to defend them. It is not MY responsibility to search for the basis of your claims.

2. Your BDS is interfering with any rational thinking and/or reading comprehension on your part.

From your own link:
In the late 1980s, SDI plans were scaled back. Instead of lasers, one proposed solution was to use thousands of small orbiting interceptors nicknamed “Brilliant Pebbles.” These would be combined with many small orbiting sensors nicknamed “Brilliant Eyes.” Both proposals ultimately led to a new approach to spacecraft design: an effort to develop smaller, cheaper spacecraft. Despite the expenditure, SDI did not make the kind of progress necessary to achieve Reagan's grand vision, but it did greatly concern Soviet military and government leaders, who often had more faith in American technology than the Americans did themselves.

President George H.W. Bush scaled back the SDI program after the end of the Cold War but still sought to develop some form of missile defense. The Iraqi use of Scud missiles during the 1991 Persian Gulf War demonstrated that American troops abroad were also at risk from missile attack. This threat prompted greater focus on so-called “theater” ballistic missile defenses to shoot down shorter-range missiles like the Scud, which are slower and easier to hit than ICBMs.

After Bill Clinton defeated Bush in the 1992 presidential election, he scaled back the effort even further and focused it on developing several ground and sea-based interceptors for defending against a small attack from nations such as North Korea, Iraq, and Iran. These interceptors would directly hit their targets at high speed and did not need a warhead. The U.S. Air Force also began work on an Airborne Laser (ABL) that would be mounted on a converted Boeing 747 airplane and used to shoot down missiles like the Scud. The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization was renamed the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO).

For the next eight years, Clinton continued missile defense research at a slower pace. But in 1998, North Korea surprised the world by launching a three-stage ballistic missile over Japan. This prompted renewed debate within the United States about the threat from ballistic missiles, and presidential candidate George W. Bush made missile defense a key part of his campaign. When Bush was sworn in as president in January 2001, he quickly moved to increase missile defense development, pushing deployment of a small system based in Alaska that could intercept a small number of ICBMs launched at the continental United States. In December 2001, Bush announced his intention to withdraw the United States from the ABM Treaty. Such a move was necessary if the United States was going to test more advanced systems that would otherwise violate the treaty.

Where did PRESIDENT George W. Bush decrease funding? I have no more time left for this nonsense.

22 posted on 04/03/2008 10:44:56 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody; Mr. Silverback

bttt


23 posted on 04/03/2008 10:51:14 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: meandog; Just A Nobody
It has got to suck when your BDS shows the world on this public forum how you have no credibility by posting falsehoods. Thanks to the work of a diligent honest freeper, you are nailed on it.
24 posted on 04/03/2008 11:05:01 AM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: tlb

Russia ought to join NATO.


25 posted on 04/03/2008 11:08:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: tlb

How do you like them apples, Pootie-poot?

26 posted on 04/03/2008 11:15:05 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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To: Just A Nobody
When Bush was sworn in as president in January 2001, he quickly moved to increase missile defense development, pushing deployment of a small system based in Alaska

Thank you for your sourced and fact-based comments. They remind me of the FreeRepublic that got me through the years of ex42.

27 posted on 04/03/2008 11:22:55 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: jrooney
It has got to suck when your BDS shows the world on this public forum how you have no credibility by posting falsehoods. Thanks to the work of a diligent honest freeper, you are nailed on it.

Nope! Not at all...if you want to believe the spin you are free to but the facts are just that: FACTS. You are entitled to your opinion of #41 and #43 just as I am entitled to believe them the third and fourth worst presidents in the past half century (only slightly better than Carter and Clinton but below even Nixon, IMO).

28 posted on 04/03/2008 11:49:54 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: Just A Nobody; jrooney
From the NY Times article: "The Bush Administration, which has expressed less enthusiam for the program than President Reagan, is being forced to confront the issue of the program, formally known as the Strategic Defense Initiative, because of the Senate's vote Tuesday to cut the program budget. The reduction was about $900 million, not $800 million as earlier reported...SNIP The ''Star Wars'' budget has increased every year since the Program was started in 1985. President Reagan proposed spending $5.9 billion in the 1990 budget year, including Energy Department funds for the program. President Bush cut this spending request to $4.9 billion after taking office. A Decline in Funds .... click here ...now, I expect an apology!
29 posted on 04/03/2008 11:58:28 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: jrooney
It has got to suck when your BDS shows the world on this public forum how you have no credibility by posting falsehoods. Thanks to the work of a diligent honest freeper, you are nailed on it.

I must really irk you to feel so stupid after your insulting post (when it took me only three clicks on a search engine to find the N.Y. Times article proving a point that you could have done yourself).

30 posted on 04/03/2008 12:07:35 PM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 293 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: Freee-dame; Just A Nobody
"Thank you for your sourced and fact-based comments."

Ditto that........

31 posted on 04/03/2008 12:10:29 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: meandog

Quoting the NYT Times as an article of fact is laughable. Half of what they write is falsified and the other half has their liberal spin, half truths and omissions. Considering this is your validation, just proves to me I can not take you seriously and a blind man could see your hatred BDS.


32 posted on 04/03/2008 1:07:06 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle
H/T to Hot Air...

Video:of Laser equipped aircraft:

Laser Jet Zaps Animated Missiles,

animated video from Boeing, the maker of the Airborne Laser. on 747 modified ...

33 posted on 04/03/2008 2:46:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Just A Nobody; pissant

Seriously...can we run Pissant for Prez in 2012? I’ll write the campaign web site pro bono...


34 posted on 04/03/2008 2:49:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: meandog; Just A Nobody; jrooney
You are entitled to your opinion of #41 and #43 just as I am entitled to believe them the third and fourth worst presidents in the past half century (only slightly better than Carter and Clinton but below even Nixon, IMO).

As Reagan said, if you dont have the freedom to be stupid, you aren't really free.

35 posted on 04/03/2008 2:52:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Let us know what they decide.....


36 posted on 04/03/2008 5:28:37 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting video. As for the main subject regarding NATO. It will be interesting to see how the Russkie approach this latest development over time. Things could start to get real nasty. They have parts of Europe over a barrel if you know what I mean.


37 posted on 04/03/2008 6:56:12 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: Southack
Bush Wins Again!

Not exactly. The membership of Ukraine and Georgia was rejected by the European members although President Bush wanted it at any price. This was far more important than those 10 interceptors in Poland. The Poles still have to agree to the plan which is more than just a technical formality.

38 posted on 04/03/2008 7:04:49 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Bush proposed the European missile defenses...NATO backed the plan.

At this point, the U.S. has done its part. NATO has done its part, as well. If parts or all of Europe want a missile shield, then we’ll build it over there. Fair enough.

If they don’t, then we won’t. No problem. Should there be an attack, then it will be up to the naysayers to explain why they turned down proven defenses.

Works for me either way. The U.S. is protected now (PAC-3, SM-2, SM-3, GBI’s, and starting this year we add our Airborne Laser defenses that should in sum protect us from a 465 missile first strike)...and we’ve offered this protection in good faith to our friends. We’re not going to cry if they don’t want it, however.


39 posted on 04/03/2008 7:53:46 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Good information. Thanks!


40 posted on 04/03/2008 7:59:45 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Mr. Silverback

The collary to your tagline is that we’re going to save your a$$ whether you like it or not!


41 posted on 04/03/2008 8:15:50 PM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: meandog
I was stationed in Alaska BEFORE 911, when Bush took office and things began taking shape on missile defense already then. BEFORE 911, missile defense was already a priority and Ft Greely, slated to originally close, was not and preparations etc were made long before “officially” things began in the summer of 2002. Almost immediately missile defense was a top priority with this administration and even BEFORE 911 in Europe Bush was being ridiculed for his push in missile defense which also extended into Europe. They claimed it would “destabilize the world, cause a new arms race, break the balance of power.....” The usual European idiot talk. In fact, Schroeder himself took shots at Bush, while his government through NATO demanded they be put under the interceptor umbrella.

Many of these things like the basing of Interceptors in Poland are decisions that were made years past, not today or last month.

42 posted on 04/03/2008 8:16:57 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: CatQuilt

Heh-heh!


43 posted on 04/03/2008 8:22:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: CatQuilt

I should say that those who are tempted to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief, we’ll save your a$$ whether you like it or not...


44 posted on 04/03/2008 8:24:37 PM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: 1035rep; Dog; LS

We’ve already got more than 550 PAC-3 interceptors, plus another 114 SM-2 interceptors.

Add 35+ GBI’s to the above (most in California and Alaska) plus a classified number of SM-3’s. Add in the Airborne Laser and you’ve got yourself a defense system that *will* defeat a 465 missile nuke attack, or that *could* possibly defeat a 900 missile attack (at the extreme edge of the theory if everything performs as it’s supposed to).

That’s not pie in the sky...those are proven missile interceptors, and they are already deployed.

It’s one heck of an accomplishment.


45 posted on 04/03/2008 8:31:29 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The missle defense in eastern Europe is basically a good thing. Nevertheless it is not that important since it is not suitable to fend off nuclear warheads that are in the possession of terrorists or rouge countries. If i.e. the Iranians would try to detonate a A-Bomb in the US or elsewhere in the western world they will use probably this carrier system:

+ =

A warhead, a suitcase and a idiot. Such is cheap, effective and makes it difficult for the US or any other western nation to fight back. All evidence will vaporize.

Therefore I doubt that anyone ever needs the missle defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic. Just another dump for American taxpayer money. Since I am from Europe it is not my party where you Americans spent your defense budget, but I think there are better fields for your investments.

What would have been far more important for the security of this planet would have been the membership of the Ukraine and of Georgia. Both countries are in eminent danger that Russia is going to re-annex them sooner or later...

The thing is that NATO is not the monolithic bloc it was during the cold war in regard of Russia. Western Europeans have here completely different interests in the meantime than the US or the eastern Europeans. They need Russia as a trading partner and do not want them to be confronted with a offensive NATO.

46 posted on 04/03/2008 9:04:55 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dang. My LaserJet only prints hard copies.


47 posted on 04/03/2008 9:47:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Southack
It’s one heck of an accomplishment.

Darn right it is.

48 posted on 04/03/2008 9:59:01 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

They hate us except for situations like this where it’s American tax dollars and American technology and the American military that will be the only thing between them and rogue missiles.

The Europeans have pretty much made it a standard policy not to invest in their own militaries, knowing the USA will provide 90 percent of the protection, the work, and the lost lives.


49 posted on 04/03/2008 10:07:36 PM PDT by baa39 ('Whoever spares the bad injures the good.' - Syrus)
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To: Hazwaste

The Poles and Czechs have got some of the biggest cajones in Europe.

Why is that???


50 posted on 04/04/2008 12:18:24 AM PDT by King Lazar
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