Posted on 04/04/2008 1:47:47 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
> resents the US
I certainly don’t resent the US. Quite the contrary. I don’t have much time for US Jingoism and Triumphalism — few people outside the US do. But so far as it goes, I am about as good a friend as the US can have.
> and presumably lives in some part of the world that has had their collective butts saved twice in the 20th century by the US,
I think the British, Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders contributed more than adequately during both occasions America “saved collective butts” worldwide — it is worth repeating that during both World Wars last century the US played hooky until most of the hard yards had been played by other countries.
Sorry, that’s just how it was: I didn’t write history, I can only report things as they were. The US chose a policy of “splendid isolationism” during both World Wars right up until the point that the enemy could no longer be ignored.
> and owes their national security for the last 70 years to the benevolence of the US and our willingness to expend our wealth and spill our blood protecting you and your ilk
Again, I think the rest of the world has done an adequate job of spilling its own blood and spending its own wealth in the interests of national security.
Don’t think us ungrateful: we are glad of the US and grateful for assistance given. But nobody asked the US to be the world’s policeman. And there are a fair few countries that would prefer that the US didn’t act unilaterally.
> you certainly appear to have an extremely overdeveloped and unjustified delusion of your own wisdom, opinions and personal significance.
Likewise.
Neah. There were no “right” sides in Spain, except maybe the Royalists, but Franco was better than the alternative.
I just saw your reply.
I stand by my statements. If you’re a ‘friend of the US’ - thanks but no thanks.
I think you need to have someone explain ‘jingoism and triumphalism’ - perhaps if you read some history - you pick from: German/English/French/Italian/Russian history. I would also suggest Spanish - but you’ve obviously failed in comprehension on what your already read.
Strange, in all my years in Europe/Asia - I found more jealousy than understanding of the US, what it has and what it does.
I can’t really agree with your solution — San Fran is a lovely city. If we could only change the population? They love the homeless so much perhaps they should all join their ranks — in Berkeley.
> I just saw your reply
Crikey, I had nearly forgotten about you.
> I think you need to have someone explain ‘jingoism and triumphalism’ - perhaps if you read some history - you pick from: German/English/French/Italian/Russian history. I would also suggest Spanish - but you’ve obviously failed in comprehension on what your already read.
Let me guess: you always wanted to be a Grade 9 History teacher but have never been able to fulfill this aspiration? Why is it that many Americans — like yourself — seem to think that us “durn Furriners” who disagree with them are merely ignorant and in need of better education?
Take a re-read of your post — perhaps read it aloud in front of a full-length mirror — and see if it doesn’t come across as arrogant and know-it-all and smarty-pants and patronizing. Because frankly it does.
It is certainly very stereotypically “American”, and it illustrates my point beautifully. Many Americans — like yourself — come across as arrogant, patronizing, smarty-pants, jingoistic, triumphalist know-it-alls and are blinkered to realities that exist outside the “American” experience.
Arising from this, perhaps it is no mystery why a good proportion of this planet is less-than-grateful to America. This might even explain why some folk on this planet are hell-bent on blowing you lot to smithereens at every given opportunity.
Nobody likes to be patronized. And nobody likes a smarty-pants.
> Strange, in all my years in Europe/Asia - I found more jealousy than understanding of the US, what it has and what it does.
I think you’ll find that us “durn furriners” understand America just fine, and that we aren’t one bit jealous.
America does many fine, generous and praiseworthy things, and deserves much more credit than she gets. This is because she often goes and spoils everything by showing off and bragging and skyting about it endlessly.
Nobody likes a skyte. Nobody likes a braggart. And nobody likes a show-off.
Why isn’t Burma allowing American cyclone aid in? It should, and it is damnable that the junta isn’t. Perhaps it is because the junta knows that American aid will come at a high cost that only begins with bragging rights.
> I stand by my statements. If you’re a ‘friend of the US’ - thanks but no thanks.
Luckily for me, not all Americans share your attitude, so it is perfectly OK for me to remain a very good friend of America. Sometimes it is only your best friends who can tell you how things actually are, rather than telling you only what you want to hear.
Sorry, but that is just how it is.
Geez - YOU again.
Take a DEEP breath, open a beer and try to understand: you’re comments come across as a condescending, historically inaccurate and reflecting the insane jealousy of a resident of a country that can’t face the fact there is one, and only one nation that has dominated the world for the last 60 years. I have spent a considerable time outside the US. I met very few successful people with your insecurity and hate. Your attitude reeks of self-recognition of your own impotence and acknowledgement that without the US - you’d be living in a 3rd rate Marxist slum ala Cuba or North Korea.
It is amazing to me that so many of you ‘haters’ would sell your sisters to be able to live in the US. And you complain about our pride in our own accomplishments. We’re the only country in history that has spilt so much of our own blood in the defence of others and DIDN”T build an empire.
We don’t expect or even want your gratitude. It takes self-respect and pride to acknowledge a debt. Clearly something you lack.
We do expect a minimum of intelligence and the ability to understand the difference between Marxist brutal anarchists and someone trying to save their country. This all started because of your ignorance of the history of the Spanish Civil War. I give up. Wallow in your ignorance, self-pity and jealousy, it’s no skin off my nose.
Oh, and by the way, the next some Middle Eastern nutcase threatens your access to oil and takes over your country don’t come whining to the US to save you.
I got all the way thru your bizzarre xenophobic rant before figuring out who you were and what you were on about.
Probably best let’s ditch the discussion because it is getting tiresome.
Next time I’m in SF, I’ll know where to go to take a dump.
I would like to suggest that you keep your sanctimonious gasbaggery in the UK where it can best be contained. We neither need nor want your comments over here. You have more than enough on your own plate with the Muslims taking over. Best you work on that before involving yourself in the United States.
> I would like to suggest that you keep your sanctimonious gasbaggery in the UK where it can best be contained.
You’re alot closer to the UK than I am, genius.
> Best you work on that before involving yourself in the United States.
Best you work on your geography before advising me on what to do with both of the Muslims that live here.
Wrong country/right idea. But if it makes you feel better, then by all means contain your gasbaggery to New Zealand.
"Best you work on your geography before advising me on what to do with both of the Muslims that live here."
Your Muslim count is far better than the UK but still two too many.
> Wrong country/right idea.
Not to worry — you wouldn’t be the first American who can’t find his way around on a map.
Nor would you be the first foreigner attempting to instruct your American betters.
Take it somewhere else. We don't need it here.
> Nor would you be the first foreigner attempting to instruct your American betters.
When I find my American betters I’ll be sure to let you know.
It will be the first American you see.
There. Fixed it. Yer welcome.
Another “friend” outs himself I guess. Why don’t you go find some other forum to scratch your anti-American itches on?
> Another “friend” outs himself I guess. Why don’t you go find some other forum to scratch your anti-American itches on?
Why don’t you find some other forum to scratch your xenophobic itches on?
I don’t recall the need to acknowledge Americans as my “betters” as being a requirement for participation on the Free Republic.
You and your mate have some nerve.
Give me a break. You start slinging around the standard anti-American language — xenophobe, jingoist — then get all whiny when people start sniping back at you. You’ve invited the response you’ve gotten.
> Give me a break. You start slinging around the standard anti-American language — xenophobe, jingoist — then get all whiny when people start sniping back at you. You’ve invited the response you’ve gotten.
And I’ve responded in kind. If you all don’t like being called xenophobes and jingoists, don’t behave that way.
Oh, and snipe all you like: so far, I’m ahead on the scoreboard, by my reckoning.
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