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Five Myths of Health Care
Pacific Research Institute ^ | 04/04/2008 | Sally Pipes

Posted on 04/04/2008 10:11:17 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake

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Probably not the best article to help counter hillarycare, but better than nothing...
1 posted on 04/04/2008 10:11:17 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: ForGod'sSake
Having lived under the British NHS I want all of you to clue in your friends and relatives.

1. A NHS can and does deny care and postpone care. Much worse than our current system.

2. You can't sue the government. No matter what goes wrong in your medical care, no one is held accountable.

3. Be prepared to spend your whole day at the Surgery (local clinic). No appointments just like a walk-in clinic.

4. No cutting edge medicine. You have to accept the limitations of what the Gov’t will reimburse.

National health care sounds good and caring but beware, it has a really dark underbelly.

2 posted on 04/04/2008 10:16:03 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye
it has a really dark underbelly.

so do the proponents of it

3 posted on 04/04/2008 10:29:42 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: ForGod'sSake; All
This post (<-click), from another Hillary Care thread, explains why Hillary Care is constitutionally unauthorized anyway.
4 posted on 04/04/2008 10:32:57 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ForGod'sSake

Great post. Thanks.


5 posted on 04/04/2008 10:34:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (The new Wall Street game: Privatize profits and socialize losses.Freeper Mad_Tom_Rackham)
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To: originalbuckeye
National health care sounds good and caring but beware, it has a really dark underbelly.

Just another step on the road to the workers' paradise...

6 posted on 04/04/2008 10:38:48 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Amendment10
This post (<-click), from another Hillary Care thread, explains why Hillary Care is constitutionally unauthorized anyway.

Being unconstitutional is hardly a speed bump for the nanny staters; it's for our own good doncha know. FWIW, the disease appears to be spreading to some of our very own Pubbies.

7 posted on 04/04/2008 10:44:44 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: GOPJ

de nada ;^)


8 posted on 04/04/2008 10:46:07 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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I think if the public ever came to Germany or the UK...and examined the healthcare program that is running...there would be a bit of disenchantment over the results.

Here in Germany...the hospitals, doctors, nurses and drug companies are all set to a certain amount of profit. None are happy about the current effect. If you walk into a German hospital...you will notice that most patients sit in a room where there are five or six beds. Private room are for private insurance folks.....who pay more and get more service. The drug companies have various things rigged up so that they end up with more money...but they are under constant investigation with these various schemes. Nurse and doctors are leaving Germany in pretty good numbers...tired of the non-existent pay increases and the dim future of social heathcare.


9 posted on 04/04/2008 10:59:19 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: ForGod'sSake

myth number 6:

Enrolling and spending somebody else’s money on a health care plan has more effect on individual health than a persons own eating and exercise habits which can be done for free.


10 posted on 04/04/2008 11:16:05 PM PDT by seastay
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To: pepsionice

“Average Life Span” is not an accurate way to compare American health care to Canada and Europe. America has more auto deaths, more murders, and more non-white residents. When non-violent white deaths in the USA are compared to non-violent white deaths elsewhere, American lifespans are always the same or better.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 11:21:20 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: pepsionice
I think if the public ever came to Germany or the UK...and examined the healthcare program that is running...there would be a bit of disenchantment over the results.

The Democrat party can only survive by having large portions of the electorate uninformed misinformed. For example, if you do a Goebbel search for this article, which has been around for over a week, it was picked up by very few media outlets. Only one of which that could be marginally included within the MSM - The Washington Times.

12 posted on 04/04/2008 11:24:44 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
When the dems won in the 2006 elections a nitwit lady at work said 'Oh, now our troops can come home and we'll have freeuniversal health care."

Needless to say, our Troops are still kicking a$$ in all theaters of the war on the mohammedans and, thankfully, my Blue Cross Blue Shield still only costs me 90 bucks a month (Yeah, I know my true cost). I mentioned that we have the finest health care in the world, probably the universe for that matter, and that she spends more buying her lunch and coffee but doesn't feel that is too much.

13 posted on 04/04/2008 11:26:05 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: seastay
Enrolling and spending somebody else’s money on a health care plan has more effect on individual health than a persons own eating and exercise habits which can be done for free.

They haven't announced phase II. If you don't eat right and give up your various vices -- no health care for you friend.

14 posted on 04/04/2008 11:26:26 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Eagles6
See #12.
15 posted on 04/04/2008 11:32:16 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

“If you don’t eat right and give up your various vices — no health care for you friend. “

Yep, that is what this is all about, they want to control every aspect of our life, including our bodies, what we eat, what we think what we say, how we labor, and our carbon we exhale, they want to raise our kids, and tell us how to have sex.

The human race is in a debate between evolving from a mammal based individuals to something equivalent to an ant colony. Liberals are just a bunch of insect lovers who want humans to be no different, like worker bees who have to eat and work and have sex according to master plan . What we need to stop liberals are some of those insect strips, or unleash a few anteaters at their conventions.


16 posted on 04/04/2008 11:45:17 PM PDT by seastay
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like worker bees who have to eat and work and have sex according to master plan .

It's worse than that... worker bees are females and don't get to have sex at all.

Only drones, who are male, get to have sex with the queen, who is nothing but a breeder who never had the job of worker bee. She's been raised to be a breeder by being given special food in the larval stage. Once the drone has sex with the queen he's pretty much useless and disposable.

17 posted on 04/05/2008 12:07:40 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: seastay
The human race is in a debate between evolving from a mammal based individuals to something equivalent to an ant colony. Liberals are just a bunch of insect lovers who want humans to be no different, like worker bees who have to eat and work and have sex according to master plan ...

Well said.

The human race I think is in a debate that is related to the Bill Bill Gates' style confidence (on another thread) that as China prospers, the world prospers and the U.S. will be reduced in importance commensurate with its percentage of the population, and everything will be just great. What an idiot. Has he thought at all about the history of our civilizations?

We're in a debate about the smartest, best educated, best disciplined, most humane minorities forming alliances and taking point by force if necessary on the path to human thriving, or degenerating to majorities of anarchy, ignorance, cruelty, slavery, and brutal control. At its core it is a moral and even religious issue. It's been happening for centuries and it's going to keep happening no matter who we elect president.

One thing poisonous to America now is poor education, which makes a population gullible enough to buy into the health care myth, global warming, the "recession," and socialism, and lull them into not remembering the joy and greatness in full freedom of Americans during our first two centuries.

18 posted on 04/05/2008 12:25:34 AM PDT by Finny (Democrats are Gov't Mommies. Liberal Republicans are Big Gov't Daddies. Conservatives are adults.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

bookmark for later.


19 posted on 04/05/2008 12:37:33 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Finny
You make some great points. Poor education leaves people vulnerable to the obfuscations by complication that characterize the health care proposals of Hillary and her ilk.

The solutions are actually pretty simple, as this article shows. The only problem with the solutions is that they don't promote statism.

20 posted on 04/05/2008 3:07:46 AM PDT by SupplySider
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