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China's Airforce
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Posted on 04/05/2008 9:14:10 AM PDT by Calpernia

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To: null and void

That was the one with the radar dish on it, right?


21 posted on 04/05/2008 9:39:56 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
No, more like this:

It's a Vietnam era warplane. There was one in the China collection that to my eye looked identical.

22 posted on 04/05/2008 9:46:01 AM PDT by null and void (What sexist attack? She is emotional. ~ Toddsterpatriot 4/5/08 (/f-news/1996139/))
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To: null and void

I saw that in there.


23 posted on 04/05/2008 9:49:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
"Did you see the new MQ 9 Reaper (unmanned)?"

Yes, I have. Imagine the straights between China and Taiwan patrolled by Predator type aircraft armed with ship killers and protected by a cap op Reapers and backed up by F22s and Super Hornets along with fast attack subs with their Harpoon launch capability. Thats not even factoring in the Taiwanese military capability. I for one would not want to be on a troop transport attempting the crossing.

24 posted on 04/05/2008 9:50:29 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Calpernia
I’m sure we will get the run down of what is what from all our more knowledgable freepers.

I agree.

They sure are building up.

25 posted on 04/05/2008 9:55:20 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Calpernia

I’m sure part of their ASW capability was blatantly stolen from our P-3 that they forced down a few years ago.


26 posted on 04/05/2008 9:55:32 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: Calpernia
Appropriate music....
27 posted on 04/05/2008 9:59:02 AM PDT by traumer
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To: shorty_harris

The one they forced down in Yunnan Island?


28 posted on 04/05/2008 9:59:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: traumer

I didn’t pick the music.


29 posted on 04/05/2008 10:00:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: television is just wrong

Not paper dragons. Any more than the Zero fighter of WW2 was a cheap copy of a failed Northrop design, as legend would have it. The Japanese were (and are) pretty smart engineers, and the Chinese are even better. There was a wry joke back as far as the 1960s (my college days) that it you walked into the first day of an engineering class and found the front rows full of Chinese, and the prof was known to grade on a curve, you’d better transfer out in the next 24 hours.

Telling yourself that the Chinese machinery is just cheap copies is delusional. Anyway, the main capability lies in the manufacturing technology, the electronics and the software, and they’ve been lifting THAT from us at a horrifying rate. With the connivance of all to many (mostly Dem) politicians, one must add. And even the best engineer will ALWAYS copy as much as he can, before he starts innovating. It’s simple economics. I do it all the time.

We are going to see a serious war with China within your lifetimes. (Maybe not mine, however.) Do not shrug off this challenge, the way we shrugged off Japan in the 1920s and ‘30s. The Chicoms are already running a pretty aggressive cyber-war against us, but they know as well as anybody that boots on the astro-turf is what holds land masses, and they expect to be doing that sooner or later.

Germany coalesced out of a seething mass of small nation-states in late 19th century and, once fully integrated, it just HAD to challenge Britain for hegemony in Europe and abroad. Out of that, we got WW1.

Modern China has been sintered together by the Communists out of a seething mass of feudal fiefdoms, and is going to do the same thing. It seems to be human nature.


30 posted on 04/05/2008 10:01:02 AM PDT by Supercharged Merlin (The way to take money out of politics is to take the politics out of money !)
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To: Calpernia

There’s a reason the phrase “Chinese copy” exists...


31 posted on 04/05/2008 10:01:03 AM PDT by null and void (What sexist attack? She is emotional. ~ Toddsterpatriot 4/5/08 (/f-news/1996139/))
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To: Calpernia

Wasn’t that music just horrible. I took off my headphones.


32 posted on 04/05/2008 10:01:20 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Desron13
I suspect that the next generation of unmanned drones will be equipped with powerful turbojet engines and be incredibly maneuverable. They will carry a full array of air to air weapons and be highly stealthy.
33 posted on 04/05/2008 10:01:38 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13

FR’s armchair Generals don’t want to hear that kind of Billy Mitchell talk. To them, the F-22 will rule the skies for the next five decades - end of story. ;)


34 posted on 04/05/2008 10:03:39 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: null and void

> The B-2 knockoff is a little interesting.

... and totally imaginary.

Assume all of the stills of proposed a/c
are photoshops of idle CAD musings.

In other equally credible news ...

Taiwan has been buying massive quantities of Alka-Seltzer.
They plan to sequester it in an array of remote-control
underwater release systems off the shore of PRC.

The balloon goes up, ROC waits for the PRC navy to put
to sea, then sinks them all by reducing the buoyancy of water.


35 posted on 04/05/2008 10:03:50 AM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Supercharged Merlin
And even the best engineer will ALWAYS copy as much as he can, before he starts innovating. It’s simple economics. I do it all the time.

Me too.

Here in Silicon Valley, we have a saying:

Half the Chinese are here spying on us.
The other half are spying on them!

36 posted on 04/05/2008 10:03:59 AM PDT by null and void (What sexist attack? She is emotional. ~ Toddsterpatriot 4/5/08 (/f-news/1996139/))
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To: Boundless
You TOLD!
37 posted on 04/05/2008 10:06:03 AM PDT by null and void (What sexist attack? She is emotional. ~ Toddsterpatriot 4/5/08 (/f-news/1996139/))
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To: shorty_harris

The EP-3 that landed in China had no ASW capability whatsoever.


38 posted on 04/05/2008 10:11:03 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Calpernia

Yes, that’s the one...


39 posted on 04/05/2008 10:12:12 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: Calpernia

I didn’t imply it


40 posted on 04/05/2008 10:15:02 AM PDT by traumer
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