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Father, daughter have child together
The Daily Telegraph ^ | April 6, 2008 | AP

Posted on 04/06/2008 10:16:50 AM PDT by TightyRighty

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To: Chickensoup

As for the description of their encounter, sometimes you need to remember that you really don’t want the answer to some questions, so don’t ask them in the first place.


141 posted on 04/06/2008 2:54:47 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: TalBlack
The impetus for Lot and his daughters was to repopulate a place emptied of humans by God, NOT to gratify lust or forbidden pleasure.

That is the daughters' excuse for getting dear old dad drunk, then raping him in his sleep; but Zoar, 'the small city', was spared for Lot's sake, as a refuge for him...then (AFTER the destruction of the OTHER cities) he went into the very hills he had earlier told the angels that he would not be able survive in.

Gen 19:19-24

19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.

22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

Gen 19:30-31

30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

Though it doesn't explain WHY he 'feared to live in Zoar, it may be that the people blamed HIM, rather than their sins, for the destruction of the other cities. That could also be why the daughters knew that there was 'no man to come unto them': they were persona non grata; not there there wasn't any man alive in the area.

142 posted on 04/06/2008 3:02:16 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch
That could also be why the daughters knew that there was 'no man to come unto them': they were persona non grata; not there there wasn't any man alive in the area.

It could have been that they had the only cave with a porch in front with a couple of packs of dogs living under it.

I'm just saying...

143 posted on 04/06/2008 3:21:02 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I’ve seen that pic of those jug eared twins for years, but who ARE they? Are they still alive?


144 posted on 04/06/2008 3:37:41 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: boop

Gotta love the internet. Those twins are Dresie and Casie, photo taken Transvaal, 1993. Looks like something from Depression era U.S.


145 posted on 04/06/2008 3:47:03 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: KJC1

That’s just what I was thinking, especially given this:

Mrs Deaves said the physical relationship with her father was like “a sexual relationship with any other man”.

For Mr Deaves the sexual relationship was “absolutely fantastic”.


146 posted on 04/06/2008 4:02:31 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: investigateworld
porch in front with a couple of packs of dogs

Or, they could have been such dogs themselves, that Helen Thomas would look good by comparison. LOL

147 posted on 04/06/2008 4:28:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: kcvl

I just knew there had to be mountains somewhere in this story.


148 posted on 04/06/2008 4:33:34 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: TightyRighty
"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realise, there are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said.

I'd have to say he was thinking with the wrong head

149 posted on 04/06/2008 4:40:22 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: null and void

Not only is it a grotesque situation, but ....excuse me, who could find that man attractive!!!!!!
A face not even a daughter should love. ewwww


150 posted on 04/06/2008 5:03:16 PM PDT by DeLaine (I see dumb people. They're everywhere. They don't even know they're dumb.)
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To: Twinkie

That wasn’t my point.


151 posted on 04/06/2008 5:46:24 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: blackdog

I won’t go quite that far. Both are quite culpable for their actions. Both are adults. Both may be messed up, but they knew right from wrong. He is probably more with it than she is considering his age and the fact that he has been in prison and seen the worst repercussions that society has (he is world-wise). But, both are lost souls who are just acting like lost souls. I can have a certain amount of compassion due to human frailty, but ultimately, what they did was wrong.


152 posted on 04/06/2008 5:49:52 PM PDT by Blogger (His love, not mine, the resting place, His truth, not mine, the tie.- Horatius Bonar)
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To: ApplegateRanch; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..



153 posted on 04/06/2008 5:51:31 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: Slings and Arrows

lolz u teh phunneh


154 posted on 04/06/2008 6:02:58 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

It’s a “Bean”-ie baby.


155 posted on 04/06/2008 6:10:20 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: Slings and Arrows

That’s just plain creepy


156 posted on 04/06/2008 6:29:45 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: TightyRighty

And folks make fun of KENTUCKY!

I think I threw up a little in my mouth.


157 posted on 04/06/2008 6:33:03 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: Bender2

I can’t stand BC, but there’s nothing wrong with that photo. My son and I do “nose kisses” all the time (Eskimo kisses, my mom called them). Eyelash/butterfly kisses are so sweet and funny on the neck from a kiddo.


158 posted on 04/06/2008 6:37:59 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
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159 posted on 04/06/2008 7:29:55 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: blackdog

Yeah, I know what you mean. It’s like how I was just talking to a friend of mine the other day and told her how I was visiting my brother in Bosnia some years ago and had to run for cover because I was coming in under sniper fire..... I will never forget it.


160 posted on 04/06/2008 7:44:31 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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