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Victim's kin want LA police to hunt illegal immigrant gangs
AP via SFGate.com ^ | April 8, 2008 | ROBERT JABLON

Posted on 04/08/2008 6:14:40 PM PDT by ruination

The parents of a murdered high school football star urged passage Tuesday of a law requiring Los Angeles police to hunt down gang members who are illegal immigrants.

Such a law would alter a 30-year policy under which officers do not seek to enforce immigration laws.

"My son was murdered by someone that was not in the country legally," Jamiel Shaw told the City Council.

"We want him back but we can't get him back," Shaw said, surrounded by his family and choking back tears. "And it hurts every day."

"We're not living in Beirut or Iraq. We're living in a nice neighborhood. He thought he was safe," Shaw said.

Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17, was shot to death on March 2 as he walked home in South Los Angeles.

An alleged gang member, Pedro Espinoza, 19, has been charged with Jamiel Jr.'s murder and also is under investigation by federal immigration officials to determine whether he is an illegal immigrant.

The elder Shaw and his wife, Anita, urged the council to pass "Jamiel's Law," which has been proposed by a mayoral candidate but has not yet reached the council.

It would require police to work with federal officials "to identify, arrest, prosecute, imprison and deport illegal aliens who are, or appear to be, gang members or affiliate gang members," whether or not they had committed any other crimes.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; gangs; illegals; immigration
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1 posted on 04/08/2008 6:14:41 PM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination
I don't blame them. But I'd hire this guy:

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2 posted on 04/08/2008 6:18:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ruination

Good for them! I hope it finds a way to passage.


3 posted on 04/08/2008 6:19:32 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: ruination

Who will wash the cars in California if police start sending the illegals back?


4 posted on 04/08/2008 6:26:49 PM PDT by toddlintown (On Obama's moral compass, "N" doesn't stand for "North.")
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How soon will the enemedia slap the sign, “RACIST,” on them?


5 posted on 04/08/2008 6:28:13 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: ruination

Don’t gangs composed of legal immigrants and American Citizens deserve to be hunt down as well?


6 posted on 04/08/2008 6:28:29 PM PDT by Kleebo151
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To: Kleebo151

One step at a time. ;-)


7 posted on 04/08/2008 6:29:58 PM PDT by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: ruination

Where’s Geraldo calling these parents bigoted klan members?!
I guess Geraldo’s new book: His-PANIC needs a new chapter- how to love the illegal immigrant gang member that murdered your son.


8 posted on 04/08/2008 6:31:31 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: ruination
Stolen from Cyber Liberty's home page ..


9 posted on 04/08/2008 6:32:57 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ruination

With estimates of 100K gangmembers in L.A., it would take martial law, curfews and the National Guard to clean up the mess in the city of Angels.


10 posted on 04/08/2008 6:35:18 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Cobra64
He's already hired, he just needs to pointed in the right direction.
11 posted on 04/08/2008 6:35:37 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ruination

Our “elected elites” are compromising our security for the sake of their positions and power. The trouble is that too many of our citizens do not take the time and effort to find out where these politicians stand on the issues. They just keep voting the same bastards in. I truly hope that these brave parents can knock some sense into these political blood suckers.


12 posted on 04/08/2008 6:38:59 PM PDT by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Geraldo?

What a laugh! His real name is Jerry Rivers, and he's Jewish.
13 posted on 04/08/2008 6:40:37 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: ruination

They never deport them:

Illegal immigrant arrested for firing AK-47 (AZ)
Apr. 6, 2008 06:26 PM

Maricopa County sheriff’s deputies arrested an illegal immigrant after he was suspected of firing an AK-47 while roaming the streets of East Mesa, officials said.

Abraham Duarte, 20, was first seen in an unincorporated area east of Apache Trail and Ellsworth Road, said Deputy Doug Matteson, a Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office spokesman.

Officers believe the man fired the gun near residential structures, though his shots were thought to be random, Matteson said. advertisement

SWAT team members emptied two-thirds of an apartment complex just south of 95th Street and Apache Trail in search of the suspect.

(snip)
He was arrested three times in 2007 in Maricopa County.


14 posted on 04/08/2008 6:41:56 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: kellynla

Sounds good to me. Where do I enlist? Can I get my weapon of choice? M249 sounds good to me. My son used it effectively in Iraq (250 round clip-boxes - COOL).

An old M79 grenade launcher isn’t bad at all for clearing out urban gangs, buildings, and Low-riders.


15 posted on 04/08/2008 6:43:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ruination
If anyone wants to clean up LA, the first thing they have to do is clean up city hall and the police administration. The idea that the citizens have to plead for the laws to be enforced is ludicrous and just shows how far gone the cess pool is.
16 posted on 04/08/2008 6:47:05 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ruination; gubamyster; dennisw; HiJinx
"We're not living in Beirut or Iraq. We're living in a nice neighborhood. He thought he was safe," Shaw said.

No, you're living in Nuevo Aztlan.


17 posted on 04/08/2008 6:50:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: kellynla

So!!!!


18 posted on 04/08/2008 6:53:47 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy
I agree that is is stupid that citizens have to ask for laws to be enforced. There has to be a way for the Citizens to sue these cities for not enforcing the laws. If we start taking their money away they will have to do something.
19 posted on 04/08/2008 7:00:44 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: ruination

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


20 posted on 04/08/2008 7:02:28 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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